You can kick and scream as much as you like, but, — Announcements on True Nudists on True Nudists

PhilfreeeukOriginal Poster

Apr 14, 2009

As I understand it, this site was created by one man that had a vision. A vision of a free site for true nudists that could not afford to pay a subscription fee. To his credit, he has made it happen. Because it is free, and until such times as the advertising revenue permits it, there are not the funds available to employ staff to do, the not inconsiderable admin work that is required to keep the site free from undesirables, and people that feel that they are exempt from complying with the rules and T&C's (which incidentally, have been created to keep the site truenudist friendly) In an effort to combat this flaw in the system, a flagging procedure is provided to enable members to alleviate some of this workload, by flagging up offenders, so that they can be appropriately dealt with by admin. Everyone who has a profile here, should have read the T&C's and weather or not they agree with them, by being here HAS agreed to comply with them. One of those rules is to flag up any rule breaks that come to your attention, and by not doing so, you are in fact breaking the rules. Each member must make their own interpretation of the rules and where they see fit, report the suspected breach, so that admin can make a final judgement and take appropriate action. If you disagree with the way that this site is run, you have three options. Accept that nothing is perfect and tolerate it. Take advantage of the fact that the management invites suggestions to improve the site, or leave. Sounds pretty fair to me. It is generally accepted that we can all ease the load on admin, and at the same time give people a second chance, by politely pointing out to an offender, any breach they may have made, in the hope that they will correct it, and so remove the need for admin to get involved. Any one that actively tries to do this, is only doing what is expected of them and anyone that tries to intimidate and harangue a member for doing so, should not be surprised if the admin comes down on them severely. Phil.

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Swifthawk
Apr 14, 2009
Well said Phil. Normally I'd prattle on and on, but I have a client coming. lol...So, maybe I'll come back later.
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mrsun57
Apr 14, 2009
Can't we just get along and stay nude.
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PhilfreeeukOriginal Poster
Apr 14, 2009
[quote]Can't we just get along and stay nude.[/quote] I'm not a religious man but it's true, For Evil to prevail, all it takes, is for good men to do nothing!
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Thomas
Apr 14, 2009
Phil, this is an excelent post. I also want to thank the admin again for creating such a wonderful site. I have made a lot of great friends throughout the world and local ones as well. I would also ask any that can afford to do so, to donate as I do. Back when this site was first starting up the admin said one of his goals was to promote nudism in a positive way and bring more people into it. I feel this is happening. I have talked to young new nudists in chat that have talked about bringing in their friends. A positive site like this will make it easier for them.
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PhilfreeeukOriginal Poster
Apr 14, 2009
[quote]Phil, this is an excelent post. I also want to thank the admin again for creating such a wonderful site. I have made a lot of great friends throughout the world and local ones as well. I would also ask any that can afford to do so, to donate as I do. Back when this site was first starting up the admin said one of his goals was to promote nudism in a positive way and bring more people into it. I feel this is happening. I have talked to young new nudists in chat that have talked about bringing in their friends. A positive site like this will make it easier for them. [/quote] Thanks Tom, and I think you're right, we do seem to get a lot of newbies.
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nuderunr
Apr 14, 2009
Great post Phil, and it rings with truth! It wasn't long ago that I was completely new to social nudity and it was the postive and wholesome way that nudity is presented here that helped to get me past mere curiosity about social nudity and helped to convince me that this is a lifestyle which fits perfectly into my life. I so want to see it remain that way for the benefit of other new people for whom this may very well be their first impression of what nudity is all about.
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Apr 14, 2009
[quote]Aparently you folks have not been to a nudist resort lately.............women and men now shaved and wear jewerly at most of the resorts we been to in NY, NJ, PA, GA, FL. and nude cruises...get out of closet folks.[/quote] What does this statement have to do with the original post? No where does the original post mention anything about shaving or jewelry being an issue. It's simply information on how and why the site was started and that fact that there are policies/rules/guidelines in place and an appropriate way to handle a situation should it arise... Excellent post, Phil. Nuderunr, my experiences with this site are similar to yours. While I've been a "home nudist" most of my life and have had a few "social nudist" experiences, I didn't like the "label". Becoming active on this site and meeting some really wonderful people here, helped me embrace the fact that, label or not, I am a nudist. Jen
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Swifthawk
Apr 14, 2009
[quote][quote]Aparently you folks have not been to a nudist resort lately.............women and men now shaved and wear jewerly at most of the resorts we been to in NY, NJ, PA, GA, FL. and nude cruises...get out of closet folks.[/quote] What does this statement have to do with the original post? No where does the original post mention anything about shaving or jewelry being an issue. It's simply information on how and why the site was started and that fact that there are policies/rules/guidelines in place and an appropriate way to handle a situation should it arise... Excellent post, Phil. Nuderunr, my experiences with this site are similar to yours. While I've been a "home nudist" most of my life and have had a few "social nudist" experiences, I didn't like the "label". Becoming active on this site and meeting some really wonderful people here, helped me embrace the fact that, label or not, I am a nudist. Jen[/quote] Cuddle (and anybody else who feels so inclined), there is not much sense in rationalizing with this poster (Ronniemack). We have been e-mailing back and forth today and it's gotten nowhere. This person is angry and feels slighted by what happend and until they simmer down and realize that the way they are behaving is not condusive to solving any disagreement, there's no point even talking to them.
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PhilfreeeukOriginal Poster
Apr 14, 2009
[quote][quote][quote]Aparently you folks have not been to a nudist resort lately.............women and men now shaved and wear jewerly at most of the resorts we been to in NY, NJ, PA, GA, FL. and nude cruises...get out of closet folks.[/quote] What does this statement have to do with the original post? No where does the original post mention anything about shaving or jewelry being an issue. It's simply information on how and why the site was started and that fact that there are policies/rules/guidelines in place and an appropriate way to handle a situation should it arise... Excellent post, Phil. Nuderunr, my experiences with this site are similar to yours. While I've been a "home nudist" most of my life and have had a few "social nudist" experiences, I didn't like the "label". Becoming active on this site and meeting some really wonderful people here, helped me embrace the fact that, label or not, I am a nudist. Jen[/quote] Cuddle (and anybody else who feels so inclined), there is not much sense in rationalizing with this poster (Ronniemack). We have been e-mailing back and forth today and it's gotten nowhere. This person is angry and feels slighted by what happend and until they simmer down and realize that the way they are behaving is not condusive to solving any disagreement, there's no point even talking to them.[/quote] Right again Swifty, that's why I haven't, with a bit of luck he'll be gone by the morning anyway. Oh by the way, surprise surprise, seems like I've joined the abuse mailing list now too! Phil.
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Member
Apr 14, 2009
I like to kick and scream.....well sometimes *blush*
Oh heck, what have I been missing on here????? Give me the good dirt!!!
(kicking and screaming.....maybe....)
J
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Swifthawk
Apr 14, 2009
[quote][quote][quote][quote]Aparently you folks have not been to a nudist resort lately.............women and men now shaved and wear jewerly at most of the resorts we been to in NY, NJ, PA, GA, FL. and nude cruises...get out of closet folks.[/quote] What does this statement have to do with the original post? No where does the original post mention anything about shaving or jewelry being an issue. It's simply information on how and why the site was started and that fact that there are policies/rules/guidelines in place and an appropriate way to handle a situation should it arise... Excellent post, Phil. Nuderunr, my experiences with this site are similar to yours. While I've been a "home nudist" most of my life and have had a few "social nudist" experiences, I didn't like the "label". Becoming active on this site and meeting some really wonderful people here, helped me embrace the fact that, label or not, I am a nudist. Jen[/quote] Cuddle (and anybody else who feels so inclined), there is not much sense in rationalizing with this poster (Ronniemack). We have been e-mailing back and forth today and it's gotten nowhere. This person is angry and feels slighted by what happend and until they simmer down and realize that the way they are behaving is not condusive to solving any disagreement, there's no point even talking to them.[/quote] Right again Swifty, that's why I haven't, with a bit of luck he'll be gone by the morning anyway. Oh by the way, surprise surprise, seems like I've joined the abuse mailing list now too! Phil.[/quote] Hehe...True story. When i was a wee lad, let's say around 2, I had a major temper problem. I would throw hissy fit after hissy fit, basically drove my mom nuts. Until one day after a particularly loooong and drawn out episode, I crawled under the buffet table and refused to come out. My mom got sooo frustrated that she eventually had to call my doctor to see what she could do with her child of satan. lol...He told her to ignore me, that I was just seeking attention and that after awhile (probably when I got hungry) I would come out. She tried that and he was right and she practiced that more often, and we had no problems since. Same principle applies here I think. p.s. lol...And Steve, I don't know why that is and what's wrong with you, but you should probably see a doctor if you are agreeing with me so much. Nine times out of ten I talk out of my ass!
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PhilfreeeukOriginal Poster
Apr 15, 2009
[quote][quote]Aparently you folks have not been to a nudist resort lately.............women and men now shaved and wear jewerly at most of the resorts we been to in NY, NJ, PA, GA, FL. and nude cruises...get out of closet folks.[/quote] What does this statement have to do with the original post? No where does the original post mention anything about shaving or jewelry being an issue. It's simply information on how and why the site was started and that fact that there are policies/rules/guidelines in place and an appropriate way to handle a situation should it arise... Excellent post, Phil. Nuderunr, my experiences with this site are similar to yours. While I've been a "home nudist" most of my life and have had a few "social nudist" experiences, I didn't like the "label". Becoming active on this site and meeting some really wonderful people here, helped me embrace the fact that, label or not, I am a nudist. Jen[/quote] Well said Jen, thanks. And thanks to all the guys & gals that have taken the time to make positive comments here, YOU are the reason, that this is such a great place to be! Long may it last and prosper! Phil.
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Swifthawk
Jul 8, 2009
Even though the body of this thread is kind of pointless (lol...funny how most of them turn out that way, eh?), I do like the original thought behind it. So, with that in mind I thought I'd give this thread a friendly little bump. :)
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PhilfreeeukOriginal Poster
Jul 9, 2009
[quote]I would like to apologize to everyone here including the admin for my newbie, ignorance, naivete, on that thread I first posted. I'm sorry.[/quote] No worries Brian, as I've been to bed since you wrote whatever it was, I can't remember it :) It takes a big man to apologise and admit a mistake, it will be much appreciated here. Says a lot about you as a person. Thanks again. And have a nice nude day :) Phil.
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ME
Member
Jul 9, 2009
[quote]I would like to apologize to everyone here including the admin for my newbie, ignorance, naivete, on that thread I first posted. I'm sorry.[/quote] Again, welcome to the site Brian. Your graceful apologies are accepted! And I would like to offer apologies to you, as well, for not taking into account that you are a newbie and our responses to you would have been better had they been tempered with a bit of patience and understanding that you are new to nudism(I think?) and new to this site. Jen
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Miss_Linda
Jul 11, 2009
[quote][QUOTE][/quote] [quote]As I understand it, this site was created by one man that had a vision. A vision of a free site for true nudists that could not afford to pay a subscription fee. To his credit, he has made it happen. Because it is free, and until such times as the advertising revenue permits it, there are not the funds available to employ staff to do, the not inconsiderable admin work that is required to keep the site free from undesirables, and people that feel that they are exempt from complying with the rules and T&C's (which incidentally, have been created to keep the site truenudist friendly) In an effort to combat this flaw in the system, a flagging procedure is provided to enable members to alleviate some of this workload, by flagging up offenders, so that they can be appropriately dealt with by admin. Everyone who has a profile here, should have read the T&C's and weather or not they agree with them, by being here HAS agreed to comply with them. One of those rules is to flag up any rule breaks that come to your attention, and by not doing so, you are in fact breaking the rules. Each member must make their own interpretation of the rules and where they see fit, report the suspected breach, so that admin can make a final judgement and take appropriate action. If you disagree with the way that this site is run, you have three options. Accept that nothing is perfect and tolerate it. Take advantage of the fact that the management invites suggestions to improve the site, or leave. Sounds pretty fair to me. It is generally accepted that we can all ease the load on admin, and at the same time give people a second chance, by politely pointing out to an offender, any breach they may have made, in the hope that they will correct it, and so remove the need for admin to get involved. Any one that actively tries to do this, is only doing what is expected of them and anyone that tries to intimidate and harangue a member for doing so, should not be surprised if the admin comes down on them severely. Phil.[/quote] [/QUOTE] Lately I have been seeing many bulletins and postings complaining about this, that or the other thing here on True Nudists. I thought Phil's posting should be bumped up and read by some of the complainers. True Nudists is a great site. If the bellyachers don't like it, then maybe they should trying creating their own websites in the image that suits them.
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PhilfreeeukOriginal Poster
Jul 11, 2009
Thanks Lin :)
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Miss_Linda
Jul 11, 2009
You're welcome Phil. It's a thin line that one has to walk to help enforce the rules here without complaining about the way things are run. You do it well.
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PhilfreeeukOriginal Poster
Jul 13, 2009
[quote]You're welcome Phil. It's a thin line that one has to walk to help enforce the rules here without complaining about the way things are run. You do it well.[/quote] Awwwwww shucks Lin ! ... Now you're making me blush :) Thanks a lot for that, a little appreciation goes a long way, Very kind of you to say so.
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ME
Member
Jul 13, 2009
Don't care what anyone says, or who complains about what...Phil's got it right...this is the best site for Nudists out there!
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PhilfreeeukOriginal Poster
Oct 23, 2009
[quote]It has been 4 months since the last bumping. The membership has grown in the 4 days since I regged, and no doubt grew prodigiously in the 7 months since Phil's OP. And our admin, bless his soul, is still handling it alone. Perhaps it would be an appropriate time to ask if that gentleman would be willing to accept volunteer assistance with the site's housekeeping chores, affording him more time for the more important tasks of running TN.[/quote] There have been several offers, but they don't appear to have been taken up. Maybe if they offered again, TT might now be more willing to accept help.
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Miss_Linda
Oct 23, 2009
My husband constantly quotes one of his favorite movie stars. I think the quote he uses is appropriate here.

"A man's got to know his limitations." - Clint Eastwood
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Thomas
Oct 23, 2009
[quote][quote]It has been 4 months since the last bumping. The membership has grown in the 4 days since I regged, and no doubt grew prodigiously in the 7 months since Phil's OP. And our admin, bless his soul, is still handling it alone. Perhaps it would be an appropriate time to ask if that gentleman would be willing to accept volunteer assistance with the site's housekeeping chores, affording him more time for the more important tasks of running TN.[/quote] There have been several offers, but they don't appear to have been taken up. Maybe if they offered again, TT might now be more willing to accept help.[/quote] I am still willing to help, my experience is not as extensive as some, but have done some website maintainence and will soon be adding another that I take care of with my job. I am willing to do this because this is a great site and I have met a lot of people on it. Thomas
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