http://washingtonexaminer.com/obama-compares-israeli-palestinian-conflict-to-canada-u.s.-disagreements/article/2524999
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- DADanandJanetteOriginal PosterMar 21, 2013[quote]Doesn't seem much sillier than anything else he, or any US politician, says every day.
What, to you, makes this a stand out?[/quote] "I can see Russia from my back yard". This statement has become an established part of pop culture, aided and abetted by the mainstream media, even though Palin never actually said it. This same media, in their continued frenzy to carry Obama's water, will ignore this incredible display of the CIC's blatant ignorance and stupidity. And even by politician's basement standards, you can't get much more assanine than this one.ReactReply - ST
SteveMar 22, 2013Well, despite the Examiner's headline, Obama did not compare the Israeli-Palestinian conflict to the relationship between the US and Canada, as the video makes clear. He held up the US-Canada use of diplomacy to resolve disputes as one to which neighboring states of Israel and and a prospective Palestine could aspire. In that context, he could have cited, reasonably,anytwo states with a long recent history of the peaceful resolution of disputes.ReactReply - RA
ravensflyinnowMar 22, 2013[quote]Well, despite the Examiner's headline, Obama did not compare the Israeli-Palestinian conflict to the relationship between the US and Canada, as the video makes clear. He held up the US-Canada use of diplomacy to resolve disputes as one to which neighboring states of Israel and and a prospective Palestine could aspire. In that context, he could have cited, reasonably,anytwo states with a long recent history of the peaceful resolution of disputes.
[/quote]Yeah, well Steve, why watch the video or read the context of the what He was trying to convey, when the headline sums it all up?? It's a shame there were no pictures.ReactReply - DADanandJanetteOriginal PosterMar 22, 2013He's comparing two completely different scenarios and you know it. Our two countries strive to resolve conflicts in an amiable, civilized manner, as opposed to a region which insists on lobbing rockets into civilian areas of a country they repeatedly swear to never recognize. Apples and oranges, and he portrays himself a complete putz for even bringing up the analogy.ReactReply
- DADanandJanetteOriginal PosterMar 22, 2013[quote][quote] Oh I get it. You're an islamophobic extremist who wants the POTUS to suck up even more (if that is possible) to the zionist terrorist "state" in its genocidal campaign against the indigenous people of Palestine and the destabilisation of all its neighbours.[/quote] You have major mental issues, my friend. Nearly every post from you confirms that fact.ReactReply
- DADanandJanetteOriginal PosterMar 22, 2013[quote]1: He's drawing a parallel. He is saying there are elements in which there are similarities and trying to be hopeful, i.e what many see as a hopeless situation may one day end up as relatively friendly as the relationship that the Usa and Canada. He's also trying to demonstrate by example that two very different societies in terms of law, culture and history can live side by side.
2: Sarah Palin said "you can actually see Russia, from land, here in Alaska." That is the quote verbatim. Tina fey said "You can see Russia from my house". the essence is the same, but the slightly exagerrated version appeared in a satirical sketch so the audience could reasonably expect it to be a heightened version of reality, and would be lead to assume it was not word for word what she said but a cartoon version. In reality though, more than ninety percent of the words in that sketch actually are taken verbatim from the interview with Katie Couric that governor Palin gave and given very little spin.
You clearly have a vendetta against President Obama and as such scrutinise his every move to try and in some way enforce your belief that he is an ineffectual president. When you have already decided this - and don't seem interested in considering the other possibility - why bother opening it up to discussion?
[/quote] He's trying to draw a parallel using an example of two friendly countries, when talking about an aggressive, murderous region hellbent on eliminating Israel. He would have been closer to the mark if he'd referenced Germany's actions against Poland in September, 1939. The Palin "quote" was actually said jokingly by a reporter, but ask Joe Average on the street and he'll swear she said it word for word. Palin is as intelligent and articulate as most politicians out there, more so than some. You want to talk gaffs? Joe Biden is a walking, talking gaff machine with terminal foot in mouth disease, but the average low information voter out there thinks compared to him Sarah Palin has an IQ lower than Trig's. My vendetta against Obama is my belief he's bad for America, bad for the free market, and a compulsive liar to boot.ReactReply - SO
SoupieMar 23, 2013And who could possibly thing that Palin is "good" for America. Or not a compulsive liar? She doesn't give one word that isn't written for her. And she clearly has an intellectual disability. What are your grounds for calling Obama a liar? More than George Bush? Really? The greatest lie ever told was that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction. Where did that come from? Cheney ordering it from the CIA.
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TonyMar 23, 2013[quote][quote][quote][quote] He's comparing two completely different scenarios and you know it. Our two countries strive to resolve conflicts in an amiable, civilized manner, as opposed to a region which insists on lobbing rockets into civilian areas of a country they repeatedly swear to never recognize. Apples and oranges, and he portrays himself a complete putz for even bringing up the analogy.
[/quote]Oh I get it. You're an islamophobic extremist who wants the POTUS to suck up even more (if that is possible) to the zionist terrorist "state" in its genocidal campaign against the indigenous people of Palestine and the destabilisation of all its neighbours.[/quote]And here is your standard reply to someone you do not agree with; you're an islamophobic etremist blaa blaa blaa. You are as predictable as the governments you push.[/quote]Lolapaloser! For starters, I don't "push" any governments, whatever that means.
Secondly, "standard reply" would mean that I used it repeatedly, which clearly I haven't.
It was a direct response to the islamophobic rant above.
Your wayward response to my direct response is outlandish, dishonest and more than a little insane.
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I can't see any reference to Islam in the original quote. Why is it "Islamophobic" (Whatever that means) ?ReactReply - TO
TonyMar 23, 2013[quote][quote][quote]1: He's drawing a parallel. He is saying there are elements in which there are similarities and trying to be hopeful, i.e what many see as a hopeless situation may one day end up as relatively friendly as the relationship that the Usa and Canada. He's also trying to demonstrate by example that two very different societies in terms of law, culture and history can live side by side.
2: Sarah Palin said "you can actually see Russia, from land, here in Alaska." That is the quote verbatim. Tina fey said "You can see Russia from my house". the essence is the same, but the slightly exagerrated version appeared in a satirical sketch so the audience could reasonably expect it to be a heightened version of reality, and would be lead to assume it was not word for word what she said but a cartoon version. In reality though, more than ninety percent of the words in that sketch actually are taken verbatim from the interview with Katie Couric that governor Palin gave and given very little spin.
You clearly have a vendetta against President Obama and as such scrutinise his every move to try and in some way enforce your belief that he is an ineffectual president. When you have already decided this - and don't seem interested in considering the other possibility - why bother opening it up to discussion?
[/quote] He's trying to draw a parallel using an example of two friendly countries, when talking aboutan aggressive, murderous region hellbent on eliminating Israel.He would have been closer to the mark if he'd referenced Germany's actions against Poland in September, 1939.The Palin "quote" was actually said jokingly by a reporter, but ask Joe Average on the street and he'll swear she said it word for word. Palin is as intelligent and articulate as most politicians out there, more so than some. You want to talk gaffs? Joe Biden is a walking, talking gaff machine with terminal foot in mouth disease, but the average low information voter out there thinks compared to him Sarah Palin has an IQ lower than Trig's. My vendetta against Obama is my belief he's bad for America, bad for the free market, and a compulsive liar to boot.
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Clearly it's you with information and/or mental issues. "Israel" is the aggressor, the occupier, the violator of the Geneva Conventions, the Nuremberg Principles and numerous other international laws and UN resolutions.
And it does so with US backing.
It is "Israel" trying to wipe Palestinian society from the face of the earth.
[/quote]If Israel really wanted "to wipe Palestinian society from the face of the earth" they could have easily done so years ago. Please dial down the hyperbole.ReactReply - TO
TonyMar 23, 2013[quote][quote]... Palin is as intelligent and articulate as most politicians out there, more so than some.
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Now that is funny, and a little scary...ReactReply - DADanandJanetteOriginal PosterMar 23, 2013[quote]
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I can't see any reference to Islam in the original quote. Why is it "Islamophobic" (Whatever that means) ?
[/quote] It's his default mode.ReactReply - MA
ManOfWicklowMar 23, 2013[quote]I can't see any reference to Islam in the original quote. Why is it "Islamophobic" (Whatever that means) ?[/quote]Islamophobia refers to an irrational fear and hatred of Muslims as an identifiable group.ReactReply - SO
SoupieMar 23, 2013In the lead up to the latest war on Iraq, chemical warfare was not used as the justification by the Bush presidency. It was about yellowcake, enriched uranium, and the assumption that Sadaam was building nuclear weapons. Former Ambassador Joseph Wilson revealed this to be a deliberate lie, which is why the administration outed his CIA agent wife.
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SoupieMar 23, 2013Ah, but you are an even better liar! Because you clearly consider yourself spotless and free of responsibility for anything.
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NoneMar 23, 2013You people knocking Palin actually think Joe Biden is intelligent? Now that's rich.ReactReply - SO
SoupieMar 23, 2013What you have offered is quite a lot of extreme opinions that sound like some even crazier Ayn Rand. Calling someone a "blood soaked psychopath" is really not a point that you would make in a sane conversation. Tell us more about your government and who you vote for. Is he a child murdering maniac who represents the 1%? Or is that only an American president?
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ManOfWicklowMar 24, 2013One says black, the other says white,
One says wrong, the other says right,
One says yes, and the other says no,
Threads like this have nowhere to go.ReactReply - MA
ManOfWicklowMar 24, 2013Rational debate, yes that is good,
If the people really understood,
Does rational exist in this day and age,
On here, or on any other page.ReactReply - DADanandJanetteOriginal PosterMar 24, 2013[quote][quote][quote] Sarah Palin said "you can actually see Russia, from land, here in Alaska." That is the quote verbatim. Tina fey said "You can see Russia from my house". the essence is the same, but the slightly exagerrated version appeared in a satirical sketch - ME[/quote][quote]"The Palin "quote" was actually said jokingly by a reporter, but ask Joe Average on the street and he'll swear she said it word for word.
- YOU[/quote][/quote] I've already given you the easily researchable providence for that quote, and quoted it verbatim for you. I've also explained where the version you quoted comes from. I've given you the names of who said it, and told you in which interview it was said. I watched the video and she says the quote word for word. Find it on Youtube, watch it, and don't use lies to make your points because it only reinforces the idea that you don't have any true facts that support you argument. The reporter you mentioned is fictional. If they aren't tell me their name, the organisation they work for and when they invented this quote. You can't, because you are wrong. I can provide evidence for what i claim so i am right. This is inarguable.
So as you can't win, here's what you'll do : insult me, and make claims about liberal agendas, insult Obama some more by using anything you can think of as evidence that he is "bad" ( cause we all know you can't say therealreason you just don't like him ) and get progressively more aggressive as you realise there is nothing you can do or say that won't make you look ignorant and wrong.
[/quote] You know nothing about me, putz, but one thing I DO know about you is you're another knee-jerk liberal who can't respond to any criticism of the Exalted One without accusations of racism. For your info, I'm a great admirer of Allen West, who's a lot blacker than Obama, since these things are apparently important to you. West loves his country without wanting to "transform" it, whatever that means. You seem to think Obama's skin color renders him immune to criticism, NOW who's the racist?ReactReply - SO
SoupieMar 24, 2013http://www.forwardprogressives.com/debunking-almost-every-republican-lie-against-president-obama/
And Undies, to say that you believe in democracy but don't vote is kind of funny. Are you are nihilist? Why don't you do something about changing what you don't like? Now that's a bubble.ReactReply - SO
SoupieMar 25, 2013" What you believe about how the world works is a pretty fantasy served up by a multibillion dollar propaganda matrix."
That statement is a delicious canard. Because you don't have a clue what I "believe". And you keep making strawman arguments yourself, venturing off topic to call everyone blind or stupid. Doctor, heal thyself.ReactReply - SO
SoupieMar 25, 2013The practical reality of democracy in the U.S. is that you have to vote for the lesser of two evils. If Romney had won, the pipelines would already being going through and a ground war with Iran would be a done deal. So explain how, in your world, by not voting, you affect a change. You present your case like it's a done deal, and the international monetary conspiracy is unstoppable. Well what's the use of droning on about it if you can suggest no solutions or alternatives. Anarchy is fun. When you're dead.
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SoupieMar 25, 2013So does that mean that you support the current regime in Syria and their ridiculously deluxe lifestyle. They are killing thousands of their own citizens and despite the popular will, will not give up power. Once again. You propose no solutions. Could you even suggest anything instead of just restating your thesis of the control of the earth by oligarchs?
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SoupieMar 26, 2013I don't demand the overthrow of any government. It's your pure arrogance that assumes so. But I do support aid to those who are suffering. Get off the cross, somebody needs the wood. And start by proposing any solution that you have to help people. Instead of attacking anyone who cares about human life. Your facile criticism of everyone and anyone who wants to help victims of war is really not a solution. I do not advocate any military intervention. I advocate for humanitarian aid. And before you start calling me names again, know that I have been on the ground, in South Africa, Ghana, and Bosnia, when people needed help.
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