Well Mitt Romney is now out there but will the right wing Christian hard core loonies vote for him? Good to see he has a reasonable policy on healthcare as opposed to the ideological idiocy advocated by some.......hehe just stirring I wait for the usual right wing tirade, also what happened to Glenn baby falling audience and ad revenue?
I hope we don't have to listen to Huckabee's appalling music...........OK guys what will the field be?
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jr1962Apr 12, 2011*Sigh*
Is it possible to have political discussions without name calling? What does it really accomplish anyway? Each "group" of people have values, whether they are Christian or not. Why should anyone attack another's values that they hold dear? This only promotes division among the American people. We should not focus on how bad we think the other person is, but rather, how each of us can help to be a part of the solution.
The Presidential race has become a popularity contest, just like all elections accross the globe. It is no longer about who has the best qualifications for the job. We should regard this process as a job interview. The questions we ask of candidates should be about his/her ability to do the job for which they are applying.
So far, I think that the man with the best qualifications is Herman Cain. He is well educated, he has excellent business experience with a proven track record, great values, and wants to see The U.S. reach its potential as the best economy in the world. He believes in small government, lower taxes and strong national defense. Herman is well spoken and knows the issues that are important to the people. He is also a supporter of the Fair Tax. http://www.fairtax.org. He is also someone who believes that the Constitution should be our guide for our country.
The next best candidate is Newt Gingrich. He has many of the same qualities of Herman Cain. Newt has experience in the Federal government as Speaker of the House of Representatives. He is well versed in the Constitution. Newt has studied the Constitution and our government and how it was designed to operate.
Let's work together for the common good of the country.
"Honor your father and mother, love your neighbor as yourself."
-JRReactReply - CO
Curt, or CowboyApr 12, 2011[quote]Is it possible to have political discussions without name calling? What does it really accomplish anyway? Each "group" of people have values, whether they are Christian or not. Why should anyone attack another's values that they hold dear? This only promotes division among the American people. We should not focus on how bad we think the other person is, but rather, how each of us can help to be a part of the solution.[/quote] Possible ? Yes, in very small groups of people who are not of the persuasion "I hate ( fill in party here )" or " ( fill in party ) are ALWAYS wrong, no matter what !" Likely ? Not on a web site.ReactReply - TH
ThomasApr 12, 2011jr, love your answer, attacking ones values is not a way to have a debate. Your listing people and their good points is the way a debate shoulld be done.
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Paul VoglerApr 12, 2011I find it so interesting that these topics always seem to be startd by non-Americans. Don't you guys have your own political crap to worry about?
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Sunbeam65Apr 12, 2011Good observation FatNudist... but American politics is an excuse for a lot of non-American's to bash & attempt to make fun of our great country. Maybe it's rooted in jealousy or a superiority complex, can't say I really know why, but can say I've seen it repeatedly when traveling abroad. Unfortunately, we've given them plenty of foder for discussion with some of the norrow mindedness, extremism politics and worse some of the people we've elected, who frankly probably have no business being in an elected office.
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dose it realy matter
ReactReply - SUSunbeam65Apr 12, 2011[quote]dose it realy matter[/quote] It certainly doesn't seem to. Washington DC seems to be so disfunctional at this point that there seems little hope they will ever figure out how to 'fix' things.ReactReply
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FF32404Apr 12, 2011The biggest reason why so many countries are affected by what goes on the US is because they depend so much on our tax dollars going to them in aid. Maybe if our politicians would stop giving so much to countries that don't appreciate us and do nothing but complain about us, we can use the money to bring our economy back to where it once was. At this point, any republican is better than who is in the white house right now, but I have to say, I like what I'm hearing from Herman Cain, and I would whole heartedly support Marco Rubio if he were to put his hat in the ring. No way on Newt, Romney, Huckabee, Palin, and the other inside the beltway republicans.
Also, the Fair Tax argument has some merits but I think a Flat Tax of 15% across the board with no deductions would be something I'm in favor of. I'd also get rid of most of the other taxes and abolish the IRS. Simplify the tax code and get rid of all witholding taxes. Make everyone pay a quarterly check for taxes like most businesses do. If so they would see how the government is screwing us each day. The withholding tax is one of the biggest government scams in existance.
My two cents!
MikeReactReply - DADanandJanetteApr 12, 2011[quote]Good observation FatNudist... but American politics is an excuse for a lot of non-American's to bash & attempt to make fun of our great country. [/quote] Maybe from other non Americans, but never from this one. I LOVE America, always have, and it's that passion that causes such angst over what's happening now. Obama is working dillegently to earn the worst President ever award, and liberals seem to forget what exactly it was that made your country great.ReactReply
- DADanandJanetteApr 12, 2011[quote]dose it realy matter[/quote] Yes, it really dose.ReactReply
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EvansBetterHalfApr 12, 2011[quote]I find it so interesting that these topics always seem to be startd by non-Americans. Don't you guys have your own political crap to worry about? Ever lived overseas for an extended period of time? American politics have a direct bearing on other countries. Especially our allies. Every country we're allied with (and some we aren't) has a stake in US politics, because eventually it will affect them directly. Whether it's the economy, or some dumb-ass war we drag them into, other countries are affected by everything the US does.[/quote] Yes, everything the US does effects other countries. Now while I have not lived many other countries (Canada and the US for years), I have visited. But, imagine that you are the only one with a US passport, out of a group of 400, that arrives in a dictitorial country, where customs carries automatic weapons and you are pulled aside because of your passport. And it is a country highly supported by the US. Imagine from your nice hotel room, looking past the beautiful golf course to gaze upon the shanty town that spreads across the hills. Now imagine, if more americans had this experience, how less caustic the conversation would be if all would understand how good we've got it and should appreciate it. I'm not saying we don't have problems, we have HUGE problems. But politics as it is operating now is solving nothing. Ideology grid lock is solving nothing in this country. Apologies if this is a bit off topic.....thanks for letting me rant! I'll shut up now....
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DesertRatApr 12, 2011I posted a similar thing like this about 2 months ago. I suggested that everyone should check out Herman Cain. He has to be Obama's worst nightmare. He is intelligent, well spoken, charismatic and also Black. The lame stream media has a serious problem with him because that he completely nullifies the argument of racism in the Republican Party. That is why you won't see much of him except on Fox News. He is feared. Check out his web site, listen to his speeches, check his background. After you do, you'll probably want to support him.
ReactReply - DADanandJanetteApr 12, 2011[quote]I posted a similar thing like this about 2 months ago. I suggested that everyone should check out Herman Cain. He has to be Obama's worst nightmare. He is intelligent, well spoken, charismatic and also Black. The lame stream media has a serious problem with him because that he completely nullifies the argument of racism in the Republican Party. That is why you won't see much of him except on Fox News. He is feared. Check out his web site, listen to his speeches, check his background. After you do, you'll probably want to support him.[/quote] BINGO!!! Herman's the man, and every liberal's worst nightmare. And if on the off chance he were nominated, the left would have a bigger meltdown than Chernobyl. You would hear racist venom spewed as never before from the purveyors of diversity.ReactReply
- EVEvansBetterHalfApr 12, 2011
How about we step outside Fox, MSNBS, CNN, etal and think for ourselves? Just sayin'.....
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pach94Apr 12, 2011Can't wait for the 3-D computers where you can reach through the screen and poke someone. I thinik the Republicans could do no worse by waiting outside a McDonalds at a prearranged time, and snatch the 3rd person walking out carrying a soft drink. The Party isn't at all organized enough this early to venture into that area. Romney will try and please those he thinks can help him win, then turn his back. I really haven't seen any candidates worthy enough. Pawlenty will make a good showing, but crap out at the end. How about McCain? Considering he won't die until he makes President, do Arizona a favor and support him.
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BikerNudeApr 12, 2011Arizonans will always favor and support McCain. The man has forgotten more about good politics than most of the pre-mentioned candidates will ever know. He has also done for both Democrats and Republicans. Most people don't know this because the media just wants to push the fact that he was a POW. Check out his credentials and start wondering why you didn't vote for him in the first place. Most of us who elected not to vote in the last race did so because we knew that it was gonna be Obama hands down. The mob couldn't have fixed that race any better. Unfortunately, McCain is getting to old to run now. Maybe we should look at someone else who wasn't born in this country but can prove he's a citizen at least. GO ARNOLD
ReactReply - TOtonyboothOriginal PosterApr 12, 2011You missed the essential thing that I was teasing nevermind, cheek out some of the other thoughts under the liberal debate. Well Mr Cain sounds interesting and I know nothing of him, so for me this has flushed out someone who sounds interesting and may well surprise a larger audience. My friend Bruce posed some interesting questions. in another space but I thought it was time for something new. The other point is that the impact of our alliance makes a huge impact on our country with unecessary wars and linkages. Only a short time ago our PM addressed a joint sitting of Congress yet many people in the US were simply unaware that it happened. She was originally on the left wing of the Labour Party, (our right wing party is called the Liberal Party!) something the Yankees never understand lol, Some of you ask why someone outside the US should have such interest? I have followed US presidential elections for the past 34 years so old habits die hard. It is intinically interesting of its own right and for someone who votes in a differen form of government the idea of people within their own party attaking each other is both fascinating and amusing. I predict that we will have a re run of '64 and that a right wing candidate will gain support from a groundswell of support (i.e teaparty like activists) but will fail to win support from the middle ground. If this other guy is as impressive as people here say (I had a brief look at his website and he seems very articulate so no GW) and there seems amazingly common agreement on that point, then the race will be much closer. Thanks everyone for your spirited response [quote]*Sigh* Is it possible to have political discussions without name calling? What does it really accomplish anyway? Each "group" of people have values, whether they are Christian or not. Why should anyone attack another's values that they hold dear? This only promotes division among the American people. We should not focus on how bad we think the other person is, but rather, how each of us can help to be a part of the solution. The Presidential race has become a popularity contest, just like all elections accross the globe. It is no longer about who has the best qualifications for the job. We should regard this process as a job interview. The questions we ask of candidates should be about his/her ability to do the job for which they are applying. So far, I think that the man with the best qualifications is Herman Cain. He is well educated, he has excellent business experience with a proven track record, great values, and wants to see The U.S. reach its potential as the best economy in the world. He believes in small government, lower taxes and strong national defense. Herman is well spoken and knows the issues that are important to the people. He is also a supporter of the Fair Tax. http://www.fairtax.org. He is also someone who believes that the Constitution should be our guide for our country. The next best candidate is Newt Gingrich. He has many of the same qualities of Herman Cain. Newt has experience in the Federal government as Speaker of the House of Representatives. He is well versed in the Constitution. Newt has studied the Constitution and our government and how it was designed to operate. Let's work together for the common good of the country. "Honor your father and mother, love your neighbor as yourself." -JR[/quote]ReactReply
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RoosterockApr 12, 2011If Obama is re elected again I think most of america would go postal
ReactReply - TOtonyboothOriginal PosterApr 12, 2011The Cato and flat tax debate? Hmmmmm well I understand the great simplistic appeal but failed supply side economics didn't work, deficits increased and large corporations failed to pay their fair share, why, I know I have worked for 2 of them State Street Bank and Trust and JPM Chase, their bank accounts were domiciled in the Caymans Islnds. I would suggest cutting $150 billion from the US Military budget, cut the waste extravagance and obsecene spending, make them live within a certain % of GDP and avoid the blood and treasure expended in a way that has failed to achieve the stated goals. I have seen the debate on waste but it seems the biggest source of waste remains sacrosant, seems like a holy cow, be brave and apply some discipline to protect your citizens real interests. Herman seems like an interesting question so thanks for the thumbs up there. [quote][quote]I posted a similar thing like this about 2 months ago. I suggested that everyone should check out Herman Cain. He has to be Obama's worst nightmare. He is intelligent, well spoken, charismatic and also Black. The lame stream media has a serious problem with him because that he completely nullifies the argument of racism in the Republican Party. That is why you won't see much of him except on Fox News. He is feared. Check out his web site, listen to his speeches, check his background. After you do, you'll probably want to support him.[/quote] BINGO!!! Herman's the man, and every liberal's worst nightmare. And if on the off chance he were nominated, the left would have a bigger meltdown than Chernobyl. You would hear racist venom spewed as never before from the purveyors of diversity.[/quote]ReactReply
- TOtonyboothOriginal PosterApr 13, 2011Well I have to agree he is impressive and articulate. I am deeply worried about his strident pro Christian stance and ignorance of the the Mccarthy horrors from the '50's. Some have mentioned his deep understanding of the Constitution, that is a refreshing change from the Bush era. It will certainly add intellectual horsepower. One point of curiousity for me was his headline quote "U.S will not become the United States of Europe"? meaning what exactly? [quote][quote]I posted a similar thing like this about 2 months ago. I suggested that everyone should check out Herman Cain. He has to be Obama's worst nightmare. He is intelligent, well spoken, charismatic and also Black. The lame stream media has a serious problem with him because that he completely nullifies the argument of racism in the Republican Party. That is why you won't see much of him except on Fox News. He is feared. Check out his web site, listen to his speeches, check his background. After you do, you'll probably want to support him.[/quote] BINGO!!! Herman's the man, and every liberal's worst nightmare. And if on the off chance he were nominated, the left would have a bigger meltdown than Chernobyl. You would hear racist venom spewed as never before from the purveyors of diversity.[/quote]ReactReply
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JoeyApr 13, 2011ReactReply - TOtonyboothOriginal PosterApr 13, 2011Yes indeed we had a state election for NSW on 29th March last, and as a former member of the Australian Labour Party I did not cast my vote for them for the first time. They suffered their worst defeat in over 100 years and in our upper house I voted and allocated prefernces for all 311 candidates including a nortorious politican who almost won the lat place, one Pauline Hanson, a disgarce to Australian politics. Others have made the point but the US has a major influence in world politics and is of great interest to those outside the US as well as your own parties. The system of electing a President is rather curious to most of us and since it is possible that one candidate will spend over a Billion $ this time around a rather depressing prospect. I have learnt about Herman Cain although I have watched snippets of Fox I haven't seen him before. [quote]I find it so interesting that these topics always seem to be startd by non-Americans. Don't you guys have your own political crap to worry about?[/quote]ReactReply
- TOtonyboothOriginal PosterApr 13, 2011[quote]
[/quote]ReactReply - TOtonyboothOriginal PosterApr 14, 2011[quote][quote]Well I have to agree he is impressive and articulate. I am deeply worried about his strident pro Christian stance and ignorance of the the Mccarthy horrors from the '50's. Some have mentioned his deep understanding of the Constitution, that is a refreshing change from the Bush era. It will certainly add intellectual horsepower. One point of curiousity for me was his headline quote "U.S will not become the United States of Europe"? meaning what exactly? [quote][quote]I posted a similar thing like this about 2 months ago. I suggested that everyone should check out Herman Cain. He has to be Obama's worst nightmare. He is intelligent, well spoken, charismatic and also Black. The lame stream media has a serious problem with him because that he completely nullifies the argument of racism in the Republican Party. That is why you won't see much of him except on Fox News. He is feared. Check out his web site, listen to his speeches, check his background. After you do, you'll probably want to support him.[/quote] BINGO!!! Herman's the man, and every liberal's worst nightmare. And if on the off chance he were nominated, the left would have a bigger meltdown than Chernobyl. You would hear racist venom spewed as never before from the purveyors of diversity.[/quote][/quote] Isn't Herman Cain now abirther?[/quote] Well lets hope not, recent analysi on our ABC, ie. Australian Broadcasting Corporation, suggested that was the reason why Trump did well, it might play well to 20% of the hard core but the middle ground will depair. one parent was a US citizen so the whole thing is rather pathetic and desperate in my view and drags down the tone of the debate. More importantly the tax debate? in OZ we don't have GST on houses per se, but, GST on the estate agents fee etc. and main house or principal resident is CGT free. CheersReactReply