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Conduct and Etiquette

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Posted Sep 15, 2011

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diceman
dicemanOriginal Poster
Sep 15, 2011

I was wondering if I would be in a I'll conduct and etiquette class if i suggested a way to reduce troll like activity. I had a chat with a knowledgable person who said there is not much we,(users of TN) can say or do to reduce trolling here. I also remember Gerry-4 (I think) had a great and true vision that one can starve a troll. I put the thoughts together and thought we could start a- troll like behavior "WALL OF SHAME". One could post the remark/who said it. Then no one ever replies to their comments and they starve. Either they change their ways or they will move somewhere else on the web to eat. I like the idea and think it will work BUT... would I not be a troll in doing this?

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  • DI
    diceman
    dicemanOriginal Poster
    Sep 16, 2011

    I suppose it's not a good idea. In 11 hours there is only 1 reply. The rest of you must be unsure if this is proper, as am I. Even a troll should be shown respect. I suppose maybe there is nothing we can do.

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    diceman
    dicemanOriginal Poster
    Sep 16, 2011
    [quote]I just now saw the thread. I am in agreement, but the trouble with trolls is that they are persistent and devious. They would just start posting non-troll posts that they disagree with-they would troll the troll board.  I just keep dabbing on a liittle Preparation H.[/quote] We are gonna need a lot of it. If I buy it by the case, will it save me money?!!!
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  • SU
    sumdude
    sumdude
    Nov 2, 2011
    [quote][quote]Even a troll should be shown respect.[/quote]

    Why? Respect isn't a right. It's earned.[/quote]Respect only needs to be earned if it is lost.  ALL people should be treated with respect unless they lose it somehow.  Treating people with respect upon first meeting is common courtesy.
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  • CO
    Curt, or Cowboy
    Curt, or Cowboy
    Nov 3, 2011
    [quote]I put the thoughts together and thought we could start a- troll like behavior"WALL OF SHAME". One could post the remark/who said it. Then no one ever replies to their comments and they starve.[/quote]

    No, for one reason alone.

    Accidentally become embroiled in a flame fest, and not having the common sense to just sit down and shut up it flames on.
    Days later ( after even one followup ) it's noticed on this "wall of shame."

    Too late !

    We've always had the ability to simply not feed the trolls.
    All that need happen, is for folks to not feed them !
    There are a few to whomIsimply never respond.
    Now you know why.

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  • ME
    Member
    Nov 3, 2011

    now that the forum is moderated, either fewer people are trolling the forums or their posts are being deleted, either way there is noticeably far less trolling than before, maybe the solution already exists...

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  • SU
    sumdude
    sumdude
    Nov 6, 2011
    [quote]Trollish behavior is NOT conducive to being held in "high or special regard" by anyone.
    [/quote]Well of course.  Would could argue against that?  trollish behavior earn the loss of common respect that should have been afforded them upon first meeting.  Treating anybody with disrespect upon first meeting is extremely rude.  Such behavior is akin to prejudice.
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    sumdude
    sumdude
    Nov 6, 2011
    [quote]Sorry, lad, but that thar dog don't hunt in these woods. One no more has an inherent right to be respected than to be trusted. Respect and trust are earned, as are disrespect and distrust.

    If Mr. X has a complete lack of knowledge about Mr. Y, he has nothing on which to base such decisions. Affording Mr. Y the benefit of the doubt and assuming that he is respectable and trustworthy is NOT the same thing as actively respecting or trusting him.

    First impressions are a fundamental part of human interaction, and a bad FI is hard to counteract.
    [/quote]Is it your position that disrespect toward a new acquaintance is acceptable behavior until the respect is earned?
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  • DW
    Dario Western
    Dario Western
    Nov 8, 2011
    Depends on where the place is.  Look at Anna Liddell from rec.nude.  She posts about nudist and nude-related items to it incessantly every day and nobody takes any notice of her except John "Zee" Simmons and Mike "Sportsbug" Ebury, both of whom are the group's resident trolls.

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    Steve
    Steve
    Nov 8, 2011
    You can starve a troll two ways.  One way is to avoid posting in threads where trolling is active. But if the topic touches you, the other is to write with a tone of respect - atone, I don't say the respect has to have been earned - and to write from your own heartabout the topic, not about the troll or in direct response to their post.  There certainly is less trolling in the forums these days.

    I'd credit some fairly earnest threads on the subject that have discouraged some of the most active contributors from responding to trolls by lowering their own discourse to that level. I recently looked back at some threads from a few months ago, and was struck by how many replies weread hominem- not about the topic, but about the poster (yourprofile is blank,youare an exhibitionist / immature / newbie / whatever,youhave asked a question that's been asked before) rather than about the topic.  No, that's not trollingper se, but it sets a bad tone, and sets the stage for a flame war.  I'm glad there's much less of it now.
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    renebbare
    renebbare
    Feb 2, 2012
    I agree with Steve and would rather feed a troll with common sense and respect for the topic.
    Burning a troll? Nope it doesn't look good when you appear to lower yourself to his level.

    As for respect? I have very little for trollish comments or their authors and seriously doubt any is deserved.
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    ManOfWicklow
    ManOfWicklow
    Jul 4, 2012
    [quote]Lack of respect is no more disrespect than lack of love is hatred.
    [/quote]


    Ditto,Brah NIM.
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    Cheri Donna Dawson
    Cheri Donna Dawson
    Jul 4, 2012
    [quote]now that the forum is moderated, either fewer people are trolling the forums or their posts are being deleted, either way there is noticeably far less trolling than before, maybe the solution already exists...[/quote]Additionally, some posts are being removed that have good info in them.  (happened to one of mine)
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