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Women and voyeurism

Posted May 12, 2017

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nudony
nudonyOriginal Poster
May 12, 2017
So...my fiance was voyeured...

It was a situation I considered insignificant (maybe I'm just jaded); but my fiance didn't see it that way. As a matter of fact she felt strongly about it. And we squabbled a bit about it (my fault.) She subsequently opted to stay covered on our vacation.
It almost ruined our St Martin trip for me; and I didn't get to hang out with the nudists I had set up a meet-up with. I wasn't too happy.
I initially felt my nudist efforts had been annihilated in one single stroke due to this imprudent person. But I know see it as a setback as opposed to a final blow. I know there are many right here among us who have faced a similar situation.
But that was two months ago and I have had time to ponder the situation. And voyeurism.

My fiance indeed reacted strongly to being voyeured. And I started remembering about my ex, who had a much different attitude about it. It was a combination of defiance and...compassion. I'll explain later.
I'm not going to elaborate too much on the ex's background story. She started out reluctant - same as my fiance, got into home-nudism, lukewarmly tried resort nudity. It wasn't until she found herself - reluctantly - in the insulated and homogeneous environment of the non-landed club that she became comfortable being completely naked with other nudists. Her "naked confidence" during that time increased due to the relationships we were fostering. She accepted being looked at naked because she knew people were looking at HER and not her individual body parts. And even if they were, it was respectfully, and followed by some sort of positive comment/compliment.
When we started attending larger and busier venues, she took her "naked confidence" with her. At that stage she had started shaving and sat/lied in a way that was comfortable to her; which sometimes meant legs ajar.
Due to her "unique" physical attributes and natural exhuberance...she got voyeured. Sometimes it was inconspicuously; sometimes it was much more blatant. Especially if she happened to be applying sunscreen.
And her attitude about it was defiance...and compassion.
Defiance because she felt strongly that nudism was about "having nothing to hide"; and it had taken her a while to be totally comfortable naked, and she wasn't going to let a "voyeur" undo the comfort levels she had achieved.
Compassion because she felt that voyeurs were more ignorant than malicious. Ignorant of the fact that they did not understand that nudity - with all its bits and nooks and crannies - is natural and not something to be glossed over. She even stated once that she felt sorry for people at the resort that still got hung up on what body part they were seeing; especially considering everyone else was also naked.
And so she just refused to hide.

Voyeurism is unfortunately a nearly unavoidable part of public nudity. But as I learned with my fiance, you can't dictate how our women are going to feel about it. Of course, my ex had a lot more time and opportunities to "train" herself on how to react - or not react - to being voyeured. Not everyone is going to "get there." That fact hit home for me with my fiance in St Martin. And now I have to start all over with her.
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    Bill Bowser
    Bill Bowser
    May 13, 2017

    I'll never understand this. Every woman I've ever known spends a great deal of time and effort daily making themselves look attractive so that other people will look at them, but when they get naked they want to be invisible. They don't want anyone to see them. Can someone please explain this to me.

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    Half
    Half
    May 13, 2017

    Bill, let me put it simply - there is a huge difference between a person catching a quick glance and a perv gawking.

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    Tom === Thomas S. Tierney
    Tom === Thomas S. Tierney
    May 13, 2017
    [quote]I'll never understand this. Every woman I've ever known spends a great deal of time and effort daily making themselves look attractive so that other people will look at them, but when they get naked they want to be invisible. They don't want anyone to see them. Can someone please explain this to me.[/quote] At a nudist resort my wife was sitting and relaxing on a deck chair after having been in the pool with our sons. Her hair was wet and stringy and she was not wearing any make up. That did not stop a perv from approaching her with a full erection. I was in the pool. She called to me. the perv ran off. We reported him and he was told to leave.
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  • ME
    Member
    May 15, 2017
    [quote]I'll never understand this. Every woman I've ever known spends a great deal of time and effort daily making themselves look attractive so that other people will look at them, but when they get naked they want to be invisible. They don't want anyone to see them. Can someone please explain this to me.[/quote]

    Reading your response, it comes across to me that you're ok with a man sporting an erection violating a woman's space just because she likes to look attractive.

    Boy, do we have a long way to go.
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    Roy Stephens
    Roy Stephens
    May 15, 2017

    Ditto traveler..ditto

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  • ME
    Member
    May 16, 2017

    Nudony I hate that for you guys. My wife after a bad experience our 1st time out said she would never go again meaning socially nude. It was a few years and thankfully it turned out to be a hiatus instead of the never again. I was edgy as hell when we finally did successfully get out socially. I literally was on guard duty to avert another bad experience. And yes I did deflect some unwanted attention towards her from time to time.

    In short after she continued to grow in her own skin gaining confidence in her social nudity I felt I could relax myself. Don't get me wrong I still keep very aware for her. She is quite at home at our club and if I should not be near her she defiantly has demonstrated she can handle that random problem visitor.

    I truly hope you guys can recover from the bad experience.

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    nudony
    nudonyOriginal Poster
    May 18, 2017

    Thanks all for the support!!

    Yeah...it was tough...but heck I've been there before. And I'm definitely not quitting now!

    As far as getting my fiance to re-join the nudist ranks...well it's going to take some work and patience. She still goes nude at home; so I'm confident now that we can rebuild from there!

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    Flokie
    Flokie
    May 21, 2017

    @HotHarleyCouple

    You really do know how to be an asshole, don't you? All of the other posts made sense to me and I think you'll find most women have been there - me included. Go crawl back under your rock, please.

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    nudony
    nudonyOriginal Poster
    May 21, 2017
    This is actually funny to me!

    Yeah I'm a bullshit artist. I'm actually a 70 year old single man typing fictional stories from his mother's basement to get a rise out of people.

    ROFLMAO!!! That reply is deeply insensitive when it comes to women and nudism though. Not cool at all.
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    Tom === Thomas S. Tierney
    Tom === Thomas S. Tierney
    May 21, 2017

    My fiance indeed reacted strongly to being voyeured.

    voyeured? That isn't actually a word.

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    HotHarleyCouple
    HotHarleyCouple
    May 22, 2017
    [quote]@HotHarleyCouple You really do know how to be an asshole, don't you? All of the other posts made sense to me and I think you'll find most women have been there - me included. Go crawl back under your rock, please.[/quote] So Media, You are trying to tell us all, that you have actually been HIT ON, by some Pervert with a Hard On....who was Lusting after "YOU"???? That is exactly WHY....we react to these BS Posts, in the manner that we do. They are nothing more, than some Creep like the OP is, trying to get others to Fall for his warped Fantasy. May be, if you were able to SQUEEZE OUT from underneath the Dinner Table, you would see for yourself, that this JERK OFF artist is just getting off, on this site FULL of Morons, who buy into each and every Lame story, that these exact same pervs, continue to write about. Even this Creeps immature reply to us, reeks of coming from some 16 year old kid, who has discovered that this forum, is a great way, to get his Rocks off on. I am sure though, that he will not be stroking to any of your pictures, but.....I'm sure that he will find something to entertain himself with...besides you Idiots, actually falling for any of the BS crap, that he is constantly dishing out for you and the other Morons, to chow down on! You people are just Frigging SAD!
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    HotHarleyCouple
    HotHarleyCouple
    May 22, 2017

    Yeah I'm a bullshit artist. I'm actually a 70 year old single man typing fictional stories from his mother's basement to get a rise out of people.

    We are sure, that you have finally hit the nail on the head, with that confession.
    Have you noticed, that all of your posts and your own Profile, reveal you to be ,the Creep that you know, that you actually are.
    Your immature / Juvenile comments and questions, either paint you as some Jerking Off 14 year old Kid who discovered a Nudist site on your parents computer, or our guess would be, that you are some Older LOSER, who is still living in his parents basement, and just Jerking Off to his own sick waterd down Fantasies, as to Fool these trusting people for as long as you can, until you finally get called out for all your obvious BULL SHIT!

    You say "That reply is deeply insensitive when it comes to women" and nudism though. Not cool at all.
    Here some CREEP is, looking for ways to FORCE his PRETEND Wife or FORCE his PRETEND GF or FORCE his PRETEND Fiance into joining in on his Nudity Fantasy.....and then.....YOU are calling us Insensitive towards women? LOL
    You are not only Hypercritical of what you are Fantasizing about wanting to do, you are a Frigging Liar and a Fake as well.
    It absolutely Floors us, that none of these other Helpful Idiots, can not see it for themselves?
    CREEPS like YOU and JIM SHORTS, are what make sites like this one, the waste of time and the Joke....that they turn into becoming, because of CREEPS and PERVS like yourself.
    Anyone that Falls for your BULL SHIT and BULL SHIT just like it, are just as Pathetic and SAD as you are!
    We do understand, that saying like it is, is no longer in Vogue, in this Limp Wristed PC world of tolerance and acceptance of all.
    But, when you read all of this PURE BULL SHIT from Losers like you, and other Losers actually buy into it, well......it is enough to make any sane person PUKE!
    For Fuck Sakes people.....Wake the Fuck Up...to this CREEPS on going JERKING OFF BULL SHIT!
    Seriously, how Frigging STUPID can you really be Andy and all the other Idiots that are giving this CREEP any sympathy or guidance?
    You people are worse than he is!
    At least he knows, that he is a CREEP and a JERK OFF Artist and a BULL SHITTER!
    Where as, you Morons, actually believe this CREEP!
    Just a Sad Group of Idiots, all around.
    This CREEP is just Playing you all.
    Can't you figure that out, on your own?
    SAD basically sums you people up!

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    Tom === Thomas S. Tierney
    Tom === Thomas S. Tierney
    May 22, 2017
    @HHC
    Glad to see you are still calling out the phonies As I said, voyeured isn't actually a word. No one can be voyeured.
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  • ME
    Member
    May 22, 2017

    I've known Nudony from a couple other sites besides this one for several years. I have always known him to be a straight up good guy and has been a good contributor to them.

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    Steve
    Steve
    May 22, 2017

    And in defense of voyeured: The writer, using the dictionary word "voyeurism" in the subject, plainly knows the conventional usage. "To voyeur" is a coinage, but a useful and clever one, instantly clear in context. It takes many words, otherwise, to refer to the experience of being naked and subject to the gaze of a person who seeks sexual pleasure from the sight of you without regard for your feelings in the matter.

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    Brett Rapley
    Brett Rapley
    May 22, 2017
    [quote]@HHC Glad to see you are still calling out the phonies As I said, voyeured isn't actually a word. No one can be voyeured.[/quote] Technically, VOYEURED is a word and also not a word. If you are watching others have sex, you are being a yoveur, or are partaking in voyeurism, but the act of watching them is thattheyare being Voyeured, as in spied on by others while they are having sex. As it was stated by another user, it depends on the definition or how you see the word is used, or it's interpretation.
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  • BR
    Brett Rapley
    Brett Rapley
    May 22, 2017
    [quote]This Nudony is obviously just yet another Jerk Off artist, getting his Cheap Jollies off, at the expense of all the Idiots on this site " Andy" that fall for his BULL SHIT! Each and everyone of his posts, is in regards to Forcing his Wife or his Fiance, depending on his mood at the time, into Nudity. Yet, he is an expert on all other phases of Nudity? No mention of his Wife or his Fiance on his profile, NONE at all? If a couple are into the same things Great! If not? then why the constant obsession at their ages, to get them involved in this Creepy Males own perverse needs? If she was not into Nudity when she was much Younger, the chances of introducing her to Nudity now, that her body is showing its AGE, is definitely not ever going to happen. Nudony is just another Fake and Flake, and it makes us Laugh, that the same dweebs like "Andy Know it All" continue to offer their Worldly Knowledge on each and every posted Topic. This guy is soooooo FULL of SHIT! Sad that you people fall for it, each and every time! His alias is probably Jim Shorts, yet another Creep here on this site. WHY, do you people continue to Fall for this Crap? Are you really that F#@KING STUPID??? Wait a minute, no need to answer that! LOL[/quote] You know what, you 2 are well out of order and need to keep your over the top opinions to yourselves. You have no right to put anyone down on this site, specially when you both look older than time itself ! Your a pair of bastards for all that you have said on this guys topic. I don't care if I get reported for my words, but you two need to take a look at yourselves PROPERLY. Or put simply, F*$K off and keep your dumb assed opinions to yourselves.
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  • BR
    Brett Rapley
    Brett Rapley
    May 22, 2017
    [quote]@HotHarleyCouple You really do know how to be an asshole, don't you? All of the other posts made sense to me and I think you'll find most women have been there - me included. Go crawl back under your rock, please.[/quote] I so agree with you on this one !
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    Brett Rapley
    Brett Rapley
    May 22, 2017
    [quote]Yeah I'm a bullshit artist. I'm actually a 70 year old single man typing fictional stories from his mother's basement to get a rise out of people. We are sure, that you have finally hit the nail on the head, with that confession. Have you noticed, that all of your posts and your own Profile, reveal you to be ,the Creep that you know, that you actually are. Your immature / Juvenile comments and questions, either paint you as some Jerking Off 14 year old Kid who discovered a Nudist site on your parents computer, or our guess would be, that you are some Older LOSER, who is still living in his parents basement, and just Jerking Off to his own sick waterd down Fantasies, as to Fool these trusting people for as long as you can, until you finally get called out for all your obvious BULL SHIT! You say "That reply is deeply insensitive when it comes to women" and nudism though. Not cool at all. Here some CREEP is, looking for ways to FORCE his PRETEND Wife or FORCE his PRETEND GF or FORCE his PRETEND Fiance into joining in on his Nudity Fantasy.....and then.....YOU are calling us Insensitive towards women? LOL You are not only Hypercritical of what you are Fantasizing about wanting to do, you are a Frigging Liar and a Fake as well. It absolutely Floors us, that none of these other Helpful Idiots, can not see it for themselves? CREEPS like YOU and JIM SHORTS, are what make sites like this one, the waste of time and the Joke....that they turn into becoming, because of CREEPS and PERVS like yourself. Anyone that Falls for your BULL SHIT and BULL SHIT just like it, are just as Pathetic and SAD as you are! We do understand, that saying like it is, is no longer in Vogue, in this Limp Wristed PC world of tolerance and acceptance of all. But, when you read all of this PURE BULL SHIT from Losers like you, and other Losers actually buy into it, well......it is enough to make any sane person PUKE! For Fuck Sakes people.....Wake the Fuck Up...to this CREEPS on going JERKING OFF BULL SHIT! Seriously, how Frigging STUPID can you really be Andy and all the other Idiots that are giving this CREEP any sympathy or guidance? You people are worse than he is! At least he knows, that he is a CREEP and a JERK OFF Artist and a BULL SHITTER! Where as, you Morons, actually believe this CREEP! Just a Sad Group of Idiots, all around. This CREEP is just Playing you all. Can't you figure that out, on your own? SAD basically sums you people up! [/quote] What the fuck makes you think we would believe you, you asshole ! you and that wife of yours are over opinionated, your hair styles are so 1970's that they are laughable and as for your so called idea of what YOU think is right or wrong, well crawling back under your rock would not be enough to get rid of you both. IF some guy hit's on a married woman with a hardon, where is that deemed ok ? It's wrong, that guy obviously didn't give a shit that this guys wife is happily married and was enjoying her moment on the beach naked, and Mr hardon had to go and spoil it by assuming he was THE MAN for her, that he could take her away from everything and make her life better. He was just a creep nothing more or less. He had no right to upset Sudony's wife in that way. Obviously thinking with his dick and not his brain ! I assume that if some poor sap hit on your wife, you would love it, but then, seeing as your both swingers, that would be the only reason you 2 would be at the beach anyway, I also assume that you would love to see your wife getting banged by some other guy as you watched and hoped that you could match his stamina, when your both clearly past it ! I would seriously FLAG your comments, but as per usual, nothing really ever seems to get done on her with regards to arsehole comments like yours. If you 2 bitches wanna go troll people, I suggest you piss off and do it somewhere else.
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    Brett Rapley
    Brett Rapley
    May 22, 2017
    [quote]@HHC Glad to see you are still calling out the phonies As I said, voyeured isn't actually a word. No one can be voyeured.[/quote] Your another mouthpiece. How do you know this guys words are phony ? Your just as bad as HHC.
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    Tom === Thomas S. Tierney
    Tom === Thomas S. Tierney
    May 22, 2017

    Thank you!

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    Tom === Thomas S. Tierney
    Tom === Thomas S. Tierney
    May 22, 2017
    [quote]And in defense of voyeured: The writer, using the dictionary word "voyeurism" in the subject, plainly knows the conventional usage. "To voyeur" is a coinage, but a useful and clever one, instantly clear in context.It takes many words,otherwise, to refer to the experience of being naked and subject to the gaze of a person who seeks sexual pleasure from the sight of you without regard for your feelings in the matter.[/quote] Yes it takes many words. But you must use words that actually exist. "Voyeured" ain't a word.
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    Tom === Thomas S. Tierney
    Tom === Thomas S. Tierney
    May 22, 2017
    [quote]vouyered not a word - depends how you look at it[/quote] LOL - The pun master strikes again
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    HotHarleyCouple
    HotHarleyCouple
    May 23, 2017
    [quote]Yeah I'm a bullshit artist. I'm actually a 70 year old single man typing fictional stories from his mother's basement to get a rise out of people.We are sure, that you have finally hit the nail on the head, with that confession.Have you noticed, that all of your posts and your own Profile, reveal you to be ,the Creep that you know, that you actually are.Your immature / Juvenile comments and questions, either paint you as some Jerking Off 14 year old Kid who discovered a Nudist site on your parents computer, or our guess would be, that you are some Older LOSER, who is still living in his parents basement, and just Jerking Off to his own sick waterd down Fantasies, as to Fool these trusting people for as long as you can, until you finally get called out for all your obvious BULL SHIT!You say "That reply is deeply insensitive when it comes to women" and nudism though. Not cool at all.Here some CREEP is, looking for ways to FORCE his PRETEND Wife or FORCE his PRETEND GF or FORCE his PRETEND Fiance into joining in on his Nudity Fantasy.....and then.....YOU are calling us Insensitive towards women? LOLYou are not only Hypercritical of what you are Fantasizing about wanting to do, you are a Frigging Liar and a Fake as well.It absolutely Floors us, that none of these other Helpful Idiots, can not see it for themselves?CREEPS like YOU and JIM SHORTS, are what make sites like this one, the waste of time and the Joke....that they turn into becoming, because of CREEPS and PERVS like yourself.Anyone that Falls for your BULL SHIT and BULL SHIT just like it, are just as Pathetic and SAD as you are!We do understand, that saying like it is, is no longer in Vogue, in this Limp Wristed PC world of tolerance and acceptance of all.But, when you read all of this PURE BULL SHIT from Losers like you, and other Losers actually buy into it, well......it is enough to make any sane person PUKE!For Fuck Sakes people.....Wake the Fuck Up...to this CREEPS on going JERKING OFF BULL SHIT!Seriously, how Frigging STUPID can you really be Andy and all the other Idiots that are giving this CREEP any sympathy or guidance?You people are worse than he is!At least he knows, that he is a CREEP and a JERK OFF Artist and a BULL SHITTER!Where as, you Morons, actually believe this CREEP!Just a Sad Group of Idiots, all around.This CREEP is just Playing you all.Can't you figure that out, on your own?SAD basically sums you people up!What the fuck makes you think we would believe you, you asshole ! you and that wife of yours are over opinionated, your hair styles are so 1970's that they are laughable and as for your so called idea of what YOU think is right or wrong, well crawling back under your rock would not be enough to get rid of you both.IF some guy hit's on a married woman with a hardon, where is that deemed ok ? It's wrong, that guy obviously didn't give a shit that this guys wife is happily married and was enjoying her moment on the beach naked, and Mr hardon had to go and spoil it by assuming he was THE MAN for her, that he could take her away from everything and make her life better. He was just a creep nothing more or less. He had no right to upset Sudony's wife in that way. Obviously thinking with his dick and not his brain !I assume that if some poor sap hit on your wife, you would love it, but then, seeing as your both swingers, that would be the only reason you 2 would be at the beach anyway, I also assume that you would love to see your wife getting banged by some other guy as you watched and hoped that you could match his stamina, when your both clearly past it !I would seriously FLAG your comments, but as per usual, nothing really ever seems to get done on her with regards to arsehole comments like yours. If you 2 bitches wanna go troll people, I suggest you piss off and do it somewhere else.[/quote]

    WOW.....LOL...Here we have the typical prototype for Porky PIG himself, commenting on our own looks? LOL
    We find your comments, to be very very entertaining and Laughable, if nothing else.
    So do tell us all Porky, besides being the International Poster Boy for Jenny Craig, and for also being the sole reason, that Fat Lazy Slobs like you, should and do have a Life Time membership with Jenny Craig. Not to mention the fact, that you are obviously still emotionally scared from your own Dad, being so upset with your coming out Party, along with you being so screwed up, "Bi" all of that going on in, your High Fat Saturated Life, we really do not see your opinion, to hold any more weight than our own views do?
    You and your total disregard for exercise or the Truth, in any "shape" or form, of course, besides putting a Shovel FULL of food into your Porky and portly mouth, basically sums YOU up, to a T, a T Bone steak.
    When it comes to having a Big Mouth, you would take the CAKE, on that one as well.
    One like yourself, would require to have a really Big Mouth, in order to go along with that really Big FAT GUT of yours.
    How else, would you STUFF all of that FATTY Food Protect and Waste, that you Feast on at your Trough , down that equally FAT Face of yours?
    Like come on Porky, your mouth, as we are all finding out, has to be HUGE to keep you going?
    It always makes us Laugh and wonder, for someone like yourself, with absolutely No Self Esteem what so ever, or with even one gram of Pride, in how you look to the outside world....how the HELL....can some Fat SLOB like yourself, have the Nerve, to ever be Naked in front of anyone.....and that certainly applies to yourself.
    You must have to get dressed and undressed, in a vey very Dark closet, if you could actually ever fit into one?
    Yet...it is always FAT SLOBS like yourself, who are always crying about something, or they are crying about everything, that brings you back to seeing yourself, for what you really are.
    Being Gay, is nothing to be ashamed about, or to feel as if, people look at you differently because of it.
    We happen to have many many Gay Friends, some very very close Gay friends.....and yet, they are all Gentlemen, in how they conduct themselves, and they are all very secure in themselves, and each and everyone of them, takes very good care of themselves both physically and emotionally.
    Where as YOU, seem to be striking out, on both the Physical side and obviously on the emotional side as well.
    Being Excessively FAT as a Nudist and as a Gay person, tells the world, that you have some very deep and dark issues.
    Most Gay guys, have some Pride in their appearance.....geez......I think that it might be called "Gay Pride"? LOL
    Just kidding.
    But all kidding aside, how many BIG FAT SLOB Gay guys, does anyone ever see?
    Fat Gay guys, are very few and far between......yes....of course, everyone could lose a few extra pounds.....but.....being excessively FAT and being a FAT Big Mouthed SLOB as well......now, that is a very rare sight indeed.
    I guess, you have that distinction going for you.
    But Porky, if the Truth hurts you so much, then you really need to talk to someone about where you are at, in your life.
    By having you, going off on some Girly Rant, due to us, telling the Truth about all of these CREEPS like YOU and others , on a Nudist site, leads one to question, who what is really behind your Rant?
    Did you miss out on a extra Dumpling tonight?
    Did someone else beat you to that last piece of Chocolate cake?
    Or is it, that you just Love to beak off, to the others, that you are dying to be just like?
    Don't feel bad about your own looks, that was all your own doing, and you can not blame others for your own lack of self discipline.
    Discipline, when it comes to putting your Fork and Knife down, and Discipline in keeping your BIG FAT MOUTH SHUT, when this Topic had absolutely nothing to do with you.
    The Topic was about, finding ways, to Force his reluctant FEMALE partner, into being involved in this Creeps personal obsession with Nudity.
    This was not a Topic wrapped around the Food Channel, or some Topic dealing with various Chocolate Recipes.
    It is about some CREEP, who thinks that it is Ok, to Force his FEMALE Partner into doing something, that she has absolutely No Interest in doing.
    He goes on to talk about how his ex, how she used to lie around, with her Legs SPREAD agape!!!
    So Fat Boy......who the F%#K talks like that.....except for some Jerking Off CREEP?
    This site, is just FULL of CREEPS and PERV's just like this Douche Bag is.
    Sorry Porky, I did not want you to get all excited again......I said "Douche" Bag, not Doggy Bag!
    This site is just FULL of Fakes and Flakes and Peds and Perv's who come on here, and suck in.....all of the Know It all's ( Andy etc ) ...who offer their worldly advice, to these Creeps, and it just gets so Old after the first year, and it just continues to go on, due to these same idiots ( Andy) , that buy into their on going Crap and Bull Shit.
    Yup, its OK, to find ways to Force some CREEPS FEMALE partner to do the things, that she is not comfortable with doing , BUT.......God Help, who ever calls them out, on their on going BULL SHIT. lol
    You really need to get a grip on the Topic there Porky, before you go off on some Heart Attack inducing rant.
    I really need to ask this next question, and I am not asking it to be mean, or to up set anyone, but, it is a question that we would love to have answered for us.
    You might be able to help with the question there, Porky.
    WHY is it? that FAT OLD People, and FAT SLOBS think, that it is OK to be seen Naked in a Public place?
    Like come on people!
    Exercise some discretion and some decency, if you can not exercise your extremely FAT Over Weight bodies. It can be a pretty disgusting sight at times, to say the least, yet......Porky Pigs like YOU.......seem to think, that they have the RIGHT, to make others Lose their Lunch, while being at a Resort, or while at a Nude beach.
    Do these Fat People, have absolutely No Self Pride in their looks , what so ever?
    Yet, we are all supposed to be so accepting of them, yet they are so closed minded, when it comes to everyone else.
    Seriously though, we kind of admire them, for not caring at all, as to what others think of them or their look.
    They just don't care, just as you Porky, don't care.
    Well, that applies to us, as well.
    We could give a Flying Fuck, what BIG Fat Slobs like YOU, or anyone else might think, we really don't.
    WHY? would we?
    Being a Nudist or being Naked is no big frigging deal at all, yet all of these know it all people, act as if, it is something NEW, and so exciting to be a part of?.
    We always thought , that Nudists and Nudity, would be all about HEALTH, and being FIT, and striving to Keep In Shape, by Eating Healthy, and taking care of ones body? LOL
    From what we have seen, it is about the Unhealthiest Lifestyles, that we have ever seen, and being FAT , not FIT is what 90% of ALL Nudists are!
    WHY is that? WHY, do FAT Gross looking Bodies, ever get the idea, that being actually SEEN, in a public setting, is OK? Yet everyone of these FAT Unhealthy Slobs, has absolutely No Pride, what so ever, in how they look Naked, to the rest of the world. But, they Know It All, when it comes to everything , that does not concern living healthy, eating healthy and staying in a Healthy shape. Porky, you are definitely the Poster Boy for the FAT and Unhealthy Group, that you have chosen to represent.
    You are a total embarrassment, to not only every Nudist out there ( Fat or FIT) , but you are an embarrassment to every Gay person, that we have ever met or befriended.
    This Topic was about all the CREEPS on this site.
    You obviously got all up set, and went all Girly on us, because you thought, that we were calling out all the "Crepes" on this site!
    Crepes? LOL
    No Porky, there are no Crepes on this site for you, but there are a never endless supply of CREEPS. for you to befriend and try to defend.
    Its late back in Jolly ole England, isn't it time, for a Mid Night Snack Porky?
    You really need to do a lot of work, on your own LOW self esteem PP.
    Thanks for the Laugh!

















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