Ancient Olympics — Frequently Asked Questions on True Nudists

Tom DOriginal Poster

Jul 3, 2020

We all know that the athletes competed, trained and received their awards nude.
I wonder if they dressed at all during the Olympic timeframe or just stayed nude (unless it got too cold at night).
Has anyone else had the same thought?
Does anyone know the answer?

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StevieLorna
Jul 3, 2020
Ive read a few books on the ancient world and while nudity was common naturism is never mentioned as a thing.
They seemed to be happy to be nude socially while bathing and competing In athletics but Ive never come across any story where people lived nude.
Im playing AC Odyssey a PS4 game set in Ancient Greece, I notice the other day that there are many full frontal statues of the male gods, but non of the female gods, an occasional bare breasted statue only, I pointed this out to Lorna, she says the programmers must visit the same naturist beaches as us.
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Tom DOriginal Poster
Jul 5, 2020
[quote]From what I have read, all athletes were nude all of the time at the Olympics. Additionally, women attended the games to choose prospects for husbands. How is THAT for a lifestyle?[/quote] Do you remember where you read that all athletes were nude all the time? I tried to find information on whether they were nude or not when not actively competing or training and couldn't find anything.
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StevieLorna
Jul 5, 2020
Pottery of the time depicts naked males performing In many athletic events.
(No women)
I read that the games were male only and far from women choosing suitors they were actually forbidden from spectating. Other scholars may disagree, but thats the only references Ive read.
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Tom DOriginal Poster
Jul 6, 2020
[quote]There are several website out there that delineate all that went on. Below is the link to one of them: https://www.neatorama.com/2008/08/02/10-fascinating-facts-about-the-ancient-olympic-games/[/quote] This web site does not mention their state of dress or undress when not competing or training. Have you found any that do?
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Steve
Jul 6, 2020
I've read that it was a thing to go down to the gym to watch athletes train, from which I gather that they were not generally naked elsewhere. Greece was by no means a nudist or sexual free-for-all; standards of dress and conduct were quite strict; the bawdiest of the vase paintings and whatnot were essentially jokes, mocking the people depicted for their lack of self-control - self-control being a very high value indeed. It was symbolized in art by the restrained depiction of the male genitalia of Greeks, in contrast with those of the foreigners depicted, and by the heavy robes of the Greek female images, which is how they were always depicted in early classical times.
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globalnudeboy
Jul 9, 2020
Imagine if the Olympics were to reintroduce the old standards of naked athletic competitions again - what a disaster that would be for Nike, Adidas and many other manufacturers of sport apparel. But what a delight for all us nudists. Even I might start attending the Olympic Games ...
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Stone Andy
Sep 7, 2020
Clothes or garments in ancient Greece were essentially hand grown, woven, sewn and cared for, making them a valuable status item. . On the other hand, the climate was mild that they weren't always necessary. Therefore, they had a more functional purpose as did nudity. Manual labor was often performed naked by farmers, laborers and fisherman (such as Peter in the New Testament). I imagine that Olympic athletes wore clothes according to the social setting and status. They were not afraid to be naked, nor did they want to do the equivilant of wearing cargo shorts and a tshirt to a black tie dinner.
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Tom DOriginal Poster
Sep 7, 2020
[quote]Clothes or garments in ancient Greece were essentially hand grown, woven, sewn and cared for, making them a valuable status item. . On the other hand, the climate was mild that they weren't always necessary. Therefore, they had a more functional purpose as did nudity. Manual labor was often performed naked by farmers, laborers and fisherman (such as Peter in the New Testament). I imagine that Olympic athletes wore clothes according to the social setting and status. They were not afraid to be naked, nor did they want to do the equivilant of wearing cargo shorts and a tshirt to a black tie dinner.[/quote] I was thinking mainly about the time they spent at the Greek equivalent of the Olympic Village, training before the games and between competitions.
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aa021716
Jan 19, 2024
It is not so simple. Male athletic nudity also had "decency" codes.
It sounds ridiculous now, but public exposure of the glans of the penis was considered by the ancient Greeks to be dishonorable and shameful, something only seen in slaves and barbarians. Modesty and decency demanded that men who appeared naked in public, such as athletes or actors, conceal their glans.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kynodesme
The use of the kynodesme may also have contributed to the natural elongation of the foreskin, which was considered desirable.
Many foreign competitors in the games were easily recognized by their circumcision or other "indecent" nudity manners.
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Tom DOriginal Poster
Jan 19, 2024
Along a similar line, some scholars believe that Jewish men who were crucified wore a small loincloth while other victims were crucified fully nude. This was not to give victims less embarrassment, but so that bypasses would not experience the discomfort of seeing a circumcised penis.
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StevieLorna
Jan 19, 2024
Im glad I dont live in a world where the sight of a cut penis offends me more than a brutalised corps hanging from a dead tree.
Or maybe those scholars just make shit up. It wouldnt be the first time.
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Tom DOriginal Poster
Jan 19, 2024
[quote]Along a similar line, some scholars believe that Jewish men who were crucified wore a small loincloth while other victims were crucified fully nude. This was not to give victims less embarrassment, but so that bypasses would not experience the discomfort of seeing a circumcised penis.[/quote] I agree, just passing information along,
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Tom DOriginal Poster
Jan 19, 2024
[quote]Along a similar line, some scholars believe that Jewish men who were crucified wore a small loincloth while other victims were crucified fully nude. This was not to give victims less embarrassment, but so that bypasses would not experience the discomfort of seeing a circumcised penis.[quote] I agree, just passing information along. But we do live in a society that allows graphic violence on broadcast television but bans frontal nudity. Not much better.
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StevieLorna
Jan 19, 2024
[quote] I agree, just passing information along,[/quote] Could you please pass along the source of the information so we can fact check it. If you cant cite a source the could you amend the statement with (could be bullshit)
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Steve
Jan 20, 2024
I remember watching some sort of movie about the first modern Olympics many years ago. The story had the members of one team (possibly the Americans) under the impression they'd have to compete nude them them nervously lining up with hands covering themselves before being told that athletic attire was permitted as a concession to modernity.
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Tom DOriginal Poster
Jan 20, 2024
[quote]I remember watching some sort of movie about the first modern Olympics many years ago. The story had the members of one team (possibly the Americans) under the impression they'd have to compete nude them them nervously lining up with hands covering themselves before being told that athletic attire was permitted as a concession to modernity.[/quote] I don't remember that, but I have a recollection of some discussion of whether the athletes would compete nude when the modern Olympics were stated.
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Steve
Jan 20, 2024
I wasn't around for that! :-P
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Tom DOriginal Poster
Jan 20, 2024
[quote]I wasn't around for that! :-P[/quote] Should have said reading about some discussion.
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StevieLorna
Jan 20, 2024
[quote]I agree, just passing information along, Could you please pass along the source of the information so we can fact check it. If you cant cite a source the could you amend the statement with (could be bullshit)[/quote} Here are a few of the posts. https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/thefreeballersforum/viewtopic.php?p=86186#p86186 https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/thefreeballersforum/viewtopic.php?p=82467#p82467 https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/thefreeballersforum/viewtopic.php?p=80034#p80034 https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/thefreeballersforum/viewtopic.php?p=80025#p80025 They are links to pages. Look for posts by Massageguy. Don't know if you can access them if you are not a member of the Freeballers Forum.[/quote] Seriously? The scholars are from a freeballers forum? Guys who dont wear underpants are your scholars?
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Tom DOriginal Poster
Jan 20, 2024
[quote]Seriously?The scholars are from a freeballers forum?Guys who dont wear underpants are your scholars?[/quote]
I was looking for detail to respond to two of your comments and posted this under the wrong one.
I have removed it from this discussion and placed it in the correct one.
Still looking for a source for this one.
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StevieLorna
Jan 20, 2024
[quote]Along a similar line, some scholars believe that .[/quote] This is what you said. Now you say it was just some underpantless idiot from the internet. Do all your post truth facts come from guys who have left their brains in the underwear drawer?
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Tom DOriginal Poster
Jan 20, 2024
[quote]Along a similar line, some scholars believe that . This is what you said. Now you say it was just some underpantless idiot from the internet. Do all your post truth facts come from guys who have left their brains in the underwear drawer?[/quote] As I said, it was an error on my part to post those links in this discussion, they were meant for another one. I will admit I am having difficulty finding documentation for my post here.
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StevieLorna
Jan 20, 2024
[quote] I will admit I am having difficulty finding documentation for my post here.[/quote] Do you have any idea why that may be?
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Tom DOriginal Poster
Jan 20, 2024
[quote]I will admit I am having difficulty finding documentation for my post here. Do you have any idea why that may be?[/quote] I know I found some (admittedly few) in the past, can't seem to now.
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