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Aug 28, 2016I'm torn and not sure what to make of this. As a nudist, I've always been in favor of clothing optional beaches. And that means optional for everyone. On the other hand, I also worry that the tide of public tolerance towards nudity on public beaches is dwindling instead of increasing. And now we have the burkini flap to deal with. I don't see how limiting the freedom to wear what one chooses is going to help the nudist cause. Seems to me it can only hurt. Especially if burkinis become a fashion trend for anyone of any faith who want to show support for the optional part of clothing optional beaches. I would hope the protesters would choose to show their support for "optional" by going naked rather than cover up in burkini attire. But I doubt that's going to happen. I'm curious to know though what other nudists think of all this and how you think it will eventually affect public acceptance of nudity.
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KohaanAug 28, 2016This is a political -HOT Potato- ... How you respond to it depends upon how far out on that limb you want to go... lest someone else decides to cut it, and you,off. If you give someone the freedom of choice, should that mean,theynow have the right denyyourfreedom of choice?ReactReply - MEMemberAug 29, 2016Has the burkini issue come to a beach in the USA? I doubt it would be banned here-we're too PC for our own good. (Hopefully Trump is breaking that little bit of socialism for ever-there are signs it is happening)
The burkini flap as I understand it is about the muslim problem in France. I don't know how the whole issue has gone over there, but it seems to me they are probably getting tired of being killed by muslims. Burkas and burkinis can hide stuff very well. Stuff like dynamite and firearms and daggers and machetes. Also, you get a group of muslims on a beach-the women with their burkinis, and the men with them, taunting and intimidating others who are in bathing suits and/or topless and soon it will be a burkabeach. No options. A microcosm of what has happened in France with the muslim diaspora. A glimpse of what is to come here if we don't wake up.ReactReply - FL
FlokieAug 29, 2016I'm 100% against this trend toward telling people what they can and cannot wear unless there is a safety factor involved. If you are operating a conveyor belt then it make sense to have a rule that you cannot have loose sleeves. But swimming? Some fundamentalist Christians wear modest swimwear that doesn't look too dissimilar to the Burkini. Should they be banned? Someone mentioned weapons can be hidden under a burkini ... how is that different from a monk's robe, saree, Mennonite attire, nun's habits, or a host of other pieces of clothing? If I wear a full, floor-length skirt (as is my preference) and I throw a poncho on top then should I be banned from that? What if I am concealing a weapon? I'm sorry but I do not see the sense in this ban and will never support it. Taking away people's rights is a slippery slope.ReactReply - NUnudeyooperAug 29, 2016It appears to me that the news media needed something to create a stir. Anybody should be free to wear what ever they desire on a beach even if that desire is to wear nothing at all. I have been puzzled for a long time as to why the skimpiest bikini is a legal garment when it covers next to nothing, yet nude is outlawed.
My suggestion for the French beaches is for as many people who use them to use them while nude. If the burkini wearers are then offended by what is normal on a French beach, they have the choice to be offended or find an alternate place. Can't imagine trying to swim is such an outfit, and it certainly is not good for tanning. I question why they would even be on a beach unless there is a motive to cause some trouble.ReactReply - KO
KohaanAug 30, 2016[quote]... Taking away people's rights is a slippery slope. [/quote]
And yet, it is being done right under your nose... and no one is even complaining about it. (lest they be called NOT PC) ... In fact, many people are applauding it and voting for the people who are allowing/causing it to happen. ... See post # 2
[quote]... I also doubt that the muslim women would go to a clothing optional beach.[/quote]
According to their laws... aren't there serious penalties for even viewing another naked person in public?
BTW, if you don't already know, exposure to the sun is a good way to get your necessary vitamin D:-DReactReply - BB
Bill BowserAug 30, 2016I have always been a strong advocate of personal freedom and the associated personal responsibilities. No one has ever identified a compelling reason why the government should dictate what clothing people should or shouldn't wear. As nudists if we believe that there shouldn't be laws prohibiting our preferred lifestyle, then we must also believe that there shouldn't be laws barring others from wearing whatever they choose.
When you consider that terrorists might hide weapons or explosive devices under their clothing then perhaps clothing should be banned everywhere. If clothing was banned on aircraft then security screening would be much quicker. Unfortunately neither of these ideas is practical considering the general public's views regarding nudity.ReactReply - MEMemberAug 31, 2016Airplanes are germ incubators. Even if it were available, I'm not sure I would go nude on commercial flights.
I just read an article about the burkini issue. According to it, the reasoning for banning the burkini is two-fold. First, to enforce secularism-in other words, suppress religious beliefs. Second is because the burka is a sign of the repression of women.
I have to say, I'm on the side of the burkini. People should be allowed to wear what they want, with the only concern as mentioned above is that the muslims would impose a dress code by intimidation on beaches of their choice.ReactReply - KE
KeithAug 31, 2016I think the nokini is better but as Bruce says people should be allowed to wear what they like. That includes wearing just ones birthday suit/
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ManOfWicklowAug 31, 2016The burkini is more pleasant to the eye than many of the perverted exhibitionist genital junk wearers.ReactReply

