The EU are proposing that this practice stops in Spring of 2021. That is to say, clocks will go forward and not change again in the Autumn.
This raises two questions:
1. Do you think it should be stopped ?
2. Where do you think time should lie ?
Personally, if it is to stop, we think it should be left on Winter time. That is to say, let the clocks revert in Autumn 2020 (or 2019) and leave it at that. Otherwise we will be on false time.
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ManOfWicklowMar 5, 2019Although modern DST has only been used for about 100 years, ancient civilizations are known to have engaged in comparable practices thousands of years ago. For example, the Roman water clocks used different scales for different months of the year to adjust the daily schedules to the solar time.ReactReply - E&
Ellen & SebbOriginal PosterMar 6, 2019Our sentiments exactly.
Although, starting work earlier doesn't really give you an extra hour of daylight. It simply means you've taken an hour from the start of the day and put it to the end.
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There is a tremendous difference in the apparent time of day depending on your locale. I grew up on the western edge of the eastern time zone & recently moved to the eastern edge of the central...my body clock won't adjust!!!That said...I thought if standard time was moved up 30 minutes and left there...it wouldn't mess with folks too much and you'd still have a little extra spare time at the end of the day.
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noodengr2Mar 6, 2019First they should have called it Daylight USEFUL Time. Then maybe folks would understand. It shifts the daylight to a more useful time of day. I think we should shift and stay on it year round. In the winter we would have an hour of sun in the evening. It is dark in the morning no matter what time you set the clock.
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Lakeman221Mar 6, 2019In the past few years I have taken to calling Standard Time, Daylight Wasting Time. So we have Daylight Saving Time & Daylight Wasting Time. I prefer the saving time aspect of it.
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Reuben TitusMar 6, 2019The switch always messes with my work schedule and it takes several days to a few weeks to get my mind readjusted to it. I really wish they'd quit switching it back and forth. But I don't care where it's left, just quit messing with it. Last fall I didn't even change my clock, now we're almost to the spring switch back and my clock will be back on time again.
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I really don't care whether we use standard time or daylight, but I want the clock changing to stop. To add to the stupidity we have two time zones in Michigan. The four counties that border Wisconsin are on central time because we do a lot of business with Wisconsin as the argument goes. So now we have a time difference with the rest of Michigan and some of the eastern zone counties are farther west than three of the central zone counties. When I worked in the central part of the upper peninsula, I did most of my business with Wisconsin, I eastern and Wisconsin central. It was also fun when I lived in Southwest lower Michigan and Indiana did not change.
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Ellen & SebbOriginal PosterMar 6, 2019[quote]First they should have called it Daylight USEFUL Time. Then maybe folks would understand. It shifts the daylight to a more useful time of day. I think we should shift and stay on it year round. In the winter we would have an hour of sun in the evening. It is dark in the morning no matter what time you set the clock.[/quote] You're completely correct. Except I wouldn't shift the clocks, rather the working day. See, from what I can make out, Winter time is the correct time. That is, Noon in Winter is when the sun is at it's highest point int he sky. Whereas Noon in Summer is actually 1pm Winter time. (I know it's a bit more complicated than that.) So for that reason I would leave time on true Solar Time. To gain the sunlight at the end of the day, which most seem to agree is most useful, I would just shift the working day. So make that we start work at 7am and finish at 3pm. Assuing your working day is currently 9-5. Obviously other types of day shifts should move accordingly.ReactReply - JO
JohnMar 6, 2019whatever happens most people will just get on with there lives
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GregMar 6, 2019I'm going to argue that safety is an issue.
I ride my bike around town. I can't tell you how many people just don't look for pedestrians or bikers. It's bad. But it's way worse in twilight or dark. I have a blazing white light on my bike. A guy almost kills me and claims that he couldn't see me because I had dark clothing on, (I had light clothing that was sweaty, so I guess that's how he got dark). I motioned to the light and said what did you think the light was? He just drove away. Anyway. yes, the clocks moving to provide more daylight time during "working" hours does improve safety on the streets from my aspect.
Also, I don't know where you are from but in the cities I live in, if your child lives within a mile from the school, they are expected to be walkers, (not the kind in Left for Dead --- although they kind of look like it as the hoard of children move towards the school in the morning).
ReactReply - NUnudeyooperMar 6, 2019[quote] Except I wouldn't shift the clocks, rather the working day. To gain the sunlight at the end of the day, which most seem to agree is most useful, I would just shift the working day. So make that we start work at 7am and finish at 3pm. Assuing your working day is currently 9-5. Obviously other types of day shifts should move accordingly.[/quote] That is no different than changing the clocks. Your body would still have to adjust to a time change.ReactReply
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FullSunMar 7, 2019[quote]Except I wouldn't shift the clocks, rather the working day.To gain the sunlight at the end of the day, which most seem to agree is most useful, I would just shift the working day. So make that we start work at 7am and finish at 3pm. Assuing your working day is currently 9-5. Obviously other types of day shifts should move accordingly. That is no different than changing the clocks. Your body would still have to adjust to a time change.[/quote] There is a point here both ways, yes, its essentially the same as changing the clocks. But if there were something along the lines of shifting say 10 minutes each week over 6 weeks.... hmmmm... nope that would really confuse things as you wouldnt know what time stores are going to open etc. No easy solution. To me is it really not a big deal hat to change the clocks two times a year. On the safety issue, yes it is an issue at least here. We have hundreds of kids walking and riding to the nearby high school, jr high, and elementary schools each day, and kids have been (and two I know of that some creep tried to lure into a car). The ones I know of have been early or on dark cloudy/ rainy days.ReactReply - JO
JohnMar 7, 2019The argument about children's' safety was largely discredited by a three year trial of continuous daylight saving time in the UK some 30 years ago (or more).
When the road accident figures were analysed it was found that the small increase in accidents to children in the morning was more than compensated for by a larger decrease in the afternoon when they came out of school.ReactReply - PA
PaulMar 7, 2019[quote]The argument about children's' safety was largely discredited by a three year trial of continuous daylight saving time in the UK some 30 years ago (or more). When the road accident figures were analysed it was found that the small increase in accidents to children in the morning was more than compensated for by a larger decrease in the afternoon when they came out of school.[/quote] I will prefer it to stay BST all year as this will give me more time to do jobs in the garden in the evenings longer than when the clocks go back to GMT for the winter. On children safety in the mainland EU they are all an hour ahead of the UK so the children have to go to school in the dark far more of the year than we do in the UK so I can't see a problem with this.ReactReply - LA
Lakeman221Mar 8, 2019[quote] That is no different than changing the clocks. Your body would still have to adjust to a time change.[/quote] I started on making the time transition yesterday when I got off work. I reset the clock in my truck before I left the parking lot, then reset all the clocks in the house when I got home. Doing it this way gives me time to adjust over the weekend when I am on no set time schedule. By Sunday evening I will have already adapted to it and Monday I will be fine while everyone else is dragging around complaining about having made the time change Saturday night. I have been doing this for about the last 10 years and it REALLY DOES make a difference in being able to cope with it the following week.ReactReply - MEMemberMar 8, 2019
I look forward to day light savings time from the day we go off of it in the fall. I do work 5 days a week day shift. So for me time in the morning is very limited and usually cold since its winter and not nudist friendly. Lol. I really enjoy the extra hour in the evening when the day has had a chance to warm up I get off work and can relax with coffee, tea, or adult beverage of my choice. The advantages of morning vs evening, evening wins hands down or should I say clothes down. Enjoy life nude my friends. Just my take. Fun topic Lee!
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silversurferMar 8, 2019[quote]I don't get what the big deal is! It's only one hour.I personally never wear a watch and rarely set an alarm for work. I naturally wake up early enough no matter what my schedule is.I personally like extra time in the evening rather than in the morning.I enjoy my evening outdoor nude time more than my morning outdoor nude time with the transition to twilight and cocktail hour.If I want more nude coffee time in the morning, I just go to bed earlier,It's all relative or irrelevant, depending on how you look at it...... except for that "running over school kids" part! I agree completely Lee! Seems like a lot of expended energy for a whole hour. ;D[/quote] Florida passed a bill that would make daylight savings time permanent. It hasn't gone through the Florida congress yet so not in effect. If it was to pass then Florida would be out of sync with the Eastern Standard Time for half of the year. Sure would make it confusing for travelers.ReactReply - MEMemberMar 9, 2019
I love the mornings and so more light in the morning makes my day. There is something special about being up before dawn and getting things done in my view. I think the need for changing the clocks in America has passed but its probably a good idea and helps makes the summer what it is at last here in the Midwest.
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Ellen & SebbOriginal PosterMar 10, 2019[quote]I love the mornings and so more light in the morning makes my day. There is something special about being up before dawn and getting things done in my view. I think the need for changing the clocks in America has passed but its probably a good idea and helps makes the summer what it is at last here in the Midwest.[/quote] This would suggest that time should be kept to true time / winter time.ReactReply
