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Expanding my nude time

Posted Jan 2, 2019

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Tom D
Tom DOriginal Poster
Jan 2, 2019

A group had a thread on expanding nude time in 2019, so I posted it there and thought I would put it here also.
I am considering just staying nude in the "pubic" areas of our house when my adult son is home.
I know he wouldn't like it. He has already expressed his displeasure with me swimming and sunning nude when he is in the house and I am in the poll enclosure, which is visible from the back windows.
I am nude in the wing that has the master bedroom, study and master bath, but he is never in that area.
Since he leaves for work at 9:00 and returns at 6:45 I do have substantial opportunities to be nude in the pubic areas also.
My wife says I should go ahead with it and if he doesn't like it, he can move out.
Anyone else have thoughts about this?

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  • RO
    Rob
    Rob
    Jan 3, 2019

    Your wife is right.

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  • PA
    Paul
    Paul
    Jan 3, 2019

    It's your house. Your house = your rules. Done.

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  • MC
    Mcdcvs
    Mcdcvs
    Jan 3, 2019

    I agree that you should be able to be comfortable in your own home. Even when company comes over, so long as you warn them that it is a clothing optional household and your wife is okay with it. Mine wont let me.

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  • TD
    Tom D
    Tom DOriginal Poster
    Jan 3, 2019
    [quote]I agree that you should be able to be comfortable in your own home. Even when company comes over, so long as you warn them that it is a clothing optional household and your wife is okay with it. Mine wont let me.[/quote] I am not nude when we have company. I will stay shirtless for frequent visitors, repairmen and anyone that unexpectedly comes to the door. I do swim and sun nude occasionally when one of my son's close friends is in the house.
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    sunnmaxx
    Jan 4, 2019

    Does your wife enjoy nudity in evenings or weekends when son is home? Hope the son doesn't bring friends over without notice. Least you have a long day to enjoy. My kids get home about 3:00 and we never know when neighbor kids pop over.

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  • TD
    Tom D
    Tom DOriginal Poster
    Jan 4, 2019
    [quote]Does your wife enjoy nudity in evenings or weekends when son is home? Hope the son doesn't bring friends over without notice. Least you have a long day to enjoy. My kids get home about 3:00 and we never know when neighbor kids pop over.[/quote] My wife is rarely nude at home, and never in the "pubic" portions of the house when our son is home. I have been "caught" a very few times by male his friends, and even his prior girlfriend, who got here before he got home. I have also swam nude occasionally when he had male friends over, warning them so they could stay away from the back windows if they wanted to.
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    Reuben Titus
    Reuben Titus
    Jan 5, 2019

    The disagreement with seeing nude persons or being seen nude is a product of our sex crime infected society that plays on our emotions. All too easy to have that sex crime mentality in our consciousness and make us very uncomfortable with even plain nudity. It's really good for us to get over it, and frequent exposure to every day common nudity will get one used to it quickly, So when it's my own home and I'm 100% in charge, I would have to exercise that right and be nude anytime I felt like it. But if there is more than 1 boss, then share the right and give in to the desires of the other. In the case of a son, if he does not own the house or have any legal authority on the property, then he should have zero say in what you do in it or around it. Do what you want to do and if he doesn't like it, so what, he can move out if it's that big a deal to him. If you want to be soft and give in to his whim, that's yer choice, but you have every right to exercise yer right of ownership and be nude when you choose to no matter what he says.

    I will be expanding my nude time a good bit this year, working nude a lot on my backwoods projects, clearing land and making gardens. But my brother has expressed his desire to not see nudity much, and since he's half owner of the land I respect his desires and wear at least shorts around the buildings in sight of everyone else. Besides the neighbors drive by frequently, never know when.

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    Kevin
    Kevin
    Jan 6, 2019

    Would you at least have a conversation with him first stating that as it's your home that you will be exercising your option to live more fully as a nudist? I get that it's your home, but I'd want to have the conversation first instead of doing it in a way that confrontational...

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    Tom D
    Tom DOriginal Poster
    Jan 6, 2019
    [quote]Would you at least have a conversation with him first stating that as it's your home that you will be exercising your option to live more fully as a nudist? I get that it's your home, but I'd want to have the conversation first instead of doing it in a way that confrontational...[/quote] I certainly would try to have a conversation first. Better than him coming home frommwork one evening and finding me nude at the dinner table or watching tv.
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    Kevin
    Kevin
    Jan 7, 2019

    Well good luck with that conversation - it's a strange one that I don't think that many people ever feel they'll have to have. Out of curiosity, how old is your son, and should he be moving out? Seems as though your wife's in favor of you being the way you want to be in your home, and although I'd never want nudism to be the cause of a rift (I would always concede to covering up instead of making some uncomfortable regardless of the situation) it is your home and life is short, my friend...

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    Tom D
    Tom DOriginal Poster
    Jan 7, 2019
    [quote]Well good luck with that conversation - it's a strange one that I don't think that many people ever feel they'll have to have. Out of curiosity, how old is your son, and should he be moving out? Seems as though your wife's in favor of you being the way you want to be in your home, and although I'd never want nudism to be the cause of a rift (I would always concede to covering up instead of making some uncomfortable regardless of the situation) it is your home and life is short, my friend...[/quote] He is 36. He was not happy 4 years ago when I told him I would be swimming and sunning nude when he was in the house, so I don't think he will be pleased this time either. However, I a have been swimming and sunning nude many times when he was home in the last 4 years, and he hasn't said anything since, so I suspect I will again get grudging acceptance.
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  • TD
    Tom D
    Tom DOriginal Poster
    Nov 22, 2020

    Took a different approach to expanding my nude time.
    Bought some gym equipment and an planning to get more.
    Now I can work out nude in the basement instead of having to get dressed and driving to the gym.

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  • TD
    Tom D
    Tom DOriginal Poster
    Dec 6, 2020
    [quote]Took a different approach to expanding my nude time. Bought some gym equipment and an planning to get more. Now I can work out nude in the basement instead of having to get dressed and driving to the gym.[/quote] Just ordered a basic home workout system so I can permanently skip the gym and the clothes when I exercise!
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    Tom D
    Tom DOriginal Poster
    Jan 15, 2021

    Exercise equipment arrived a few days ago and finished assembling it last night.
    Will be trying it out, nude of course, in a few minutes when I am fully awake.

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    Craig
    Craig
    Jan 18, 2021

    Tough question. I mean, it's your house, you should do as you please. You also don't want to create an issue between you and your kid.

    If the kid is older and can move out, then they should.

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  • TD
    Tom D
    Tom DOriginal Poster
    May 9, 2021

    Since the exercise equipment arrived, I have usually worked out nude and always shirtless.

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  • TD
    Tom D
    Tom DOriginal Poster
    May 28, 2022

    My son has been out of work for a long time now.
    He spends most of his time in his room.
    I have gotten to the point where I am nude if I want to be unless we have planned activity that includes him.

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    divester
    divester
    May 30, 2022

    Ultimately it comes down to you to decide as it's your house. However, presumably it's also his home, at least for now and things tend to work best when people at least try to be respectful to each other.
    So bringing this back to you, you've already said he's out of the house for a lot of the time anyway. How important is it to you that you're naked for the time he will be there? Then balance this with how much it would matter to you and your wife if your son decided he needed to move out because of your nudity.
    Work that one out and then hopefully you'll have the answer you're looking for.

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  • TD
    Tom D
    Tom DOriginal Poster
    May 31, 2022
    [quote]Ultimately it comes down to you to decide as it's your house. However, presumably it's also his home, at least for now and things tend to work best when people at least try to be respectful to each other. So bringing this back to you, you've already said he's out of the house for a lot of the time anyway. How important is it to you that you're naked for the time he will be there? Then balance this with how much it would matter to you and your wife if your son decided he needed to move out because of your nudity. Work that one out and then hopefully you'll have the answer you're looking for.[/quote] He rarely leaves the house since he was laid off. Fear of Covid. However he has a computer, TV and mini-fridge in his room and his own upstairs bathroom so he doesn't come downstair where our bedroom and bathroom and all the common rooms are. Wearing shorts for dinner and planned activities is not a problem. He knows that if he makes an unexpected trip downstairs I am likely to be nude in warm weather and accepts but doesn't like it. Moving out is not an option until he finds a job. My wife and I would be happy if he moved out as long as we remained on reasonably good terms.
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    divester
    divester
    May 31, 2022

    Well it's your house so you could just say, 'My house my rules' and do exactly as you please, even though you know he doesn't like it. Or out of total respect for his feelings you could cover up the whole time and deny yourself the opportunity of getting naked in your own home.

    A third way could be for you both to come to a compromise out or respect for each other. This could be, during certain hours of the day you'll have total naked use of all areas of the house (except his bedroom) but at other agreed times or in areas of the house or circumstances you'll be covered up. That way he can easily avoid you if he really finds your nudity upsetting and your relationship with him could be less strained.

    Everyone should have the right to freedom of exoression and getting naked is part of mine but having respect for others makes the world a nicer place.

    Whatever you decide, I think your son should be given every encouragement, and help, to find his own space so you can both live exactly as you choose.

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  • TD
    Tom D
    Tom DOriginal Poster
    May 31, 2022
    [quote]Well it's your house so you could just say, 'My house my rules' and do exactly as you please, even though you know he doesn't like it. Or out of total respect for his feelings you could cover up the whole time and deny yourself the opportunity of getting naked in your own home. A third way could be for you both to come to a compromise out or respect for each other. This could be, during certain hours of the day you'll have total naked use of all areas of the house (except his bedroom) but at other agreed times or in areas of the house or circumstances you'll be covered up. That way he can easily avoid you if he really finds your nudity upsetting and your relationship with him could be less strained. Everyone should have the right to freedom of exoression and getting naked is part of mine but having respect for others makes the world a nicer place. Whatever you decide, I think your son should be given every encouragement, and help, to find his own space so you can both live exactly as you choose.[/quote] We sort of have that agreement now. He knows that I will be wearing something at dinner and times when we are doing a planned activity together. When he comes into the public areas of the house at other times, he knows that I am likely to be nude. I don't go upstairs to where his bedroom and bathroom are nude, except on the very rare occasion that I get an urgent bathroom call in the night and my wife is using the main floor bathroom. The main constraint on me being nude is that his son, who lives with his mother who has primary custody, spends 6 weeks or more with us every summer. When our grandson is here, I am not nude in the "public" areas of the house because I don't want to create a potential problem with his mother.
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  • TD
    Tom D
    Tom DOriginal Poster
    Jun 1, 2022

    When our grandson is here, I am not nude in the "public" areas of the house because I don't want to create a potential problem with his mother..

    Grandson is coming for approximately 3 weeks on Saturday.
    Planning on being nude except at home except for dinner for the next 3 days while I have the opportunity

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    Bill
    Bill
    Jul 24, 2022
    [quote]I also understand that the discomfort of being nude or being with nude folks comes from a primal (there are studies in this) programming in our brain that shames us when nude to help ensure we partner and not stray when raising offspring because it takes two to raise offspring. I'm certain that being nude around our parents ans/or offspring has a related hard wire in our brains. Being happiest nude is being with people who are happy to be nude![/quote] I'm very happy to report that this primal programming you mention has been un-learned by me and my honey and her mother quite thoroughly. Or maybe the clothing human beings have learned to cover up with, regardless of how many thousands of years ago that might have first been fashioned (animal skins earlier, then the first textiles, etc.), were created by humans more by which to stay warm or to avoid sun exposure than to hide anything from other people or rival clans. It seems plausible to me that these man made coverings may also have been an attempt by proto-humans to cover the naughty bits in order to keep others from seeing the beautiful genitals to themselves. Regardless, these man-made constructs have now turned into something that we may find shame because of. I propose the discomfort you reference is the egg, not the chicken in this instance, a learned reaction that has now ingrained itself into the societal framework. It can be un-learned if it was first learned. I'd also be excited to read the studies you reference that supports this idea if you can produce such in the form of a website link, or the name of a book or another avenue for its assessment, thanks! The proof is in the pudding and a study can be based on balderdash.
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  • TD
    Tom D
    Tom DOriginal Poster
    Jul 24, 2022

    There is some evidence that clothing started because people began moving to cooler climates and the earth as a whole was cooling in the Ice age.
    While moving to warmer climates has not resulted in people going nude, it certainly has encouraged people to wear less. I have talked to men in FL that don't own any long pants. Perhaps global warming will make nudity more acceptable, both because of the heat and the reduction in carbon dioxide produced by not manufacturing and laundering clothes!

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