Finally there is a Naturist Symbol !

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  Erik NatamsOriginal Poster

  Nov 25, 2020

  Some more examples of how the Naturist Symbol is used in daily (textile) life

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  Flokie

  Nov 27, 2020

  I don't dislike the symbol being promoted but I do take exception to the idea that nothing existed prior to this. I would argue that the INF (International Naturist Federation) symbol is fairly well-known (or should be) and many other countries have a national organization that already has a naturist logo unique to that country. Everyone knows what FKK is and within each country the national symbol should be recognizable and if it's not, I would ask why haven't you joined your national organziation? These are the groups that fight for YOUR rights as naturists ... the legalization of beaches, lobbying government, supporting legal challenges and creating a sense of community. Get involved, be vocal, step out from behind your keyboard and enter the world of real-life, social nudism.
  
  If this is all pretty new to you and you don't know how to find your national organization, check out the International Naturist Federation website for a listing of clubs. Neither of the American organizations are members but you will find contact information for at least 50 other countries:
  
  https://inf-fni.org/

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  John

  Nov 27, 2020

  Somebody explained that on another thread some time back. AANR is for what you could call the "nudist industry" ... the resorts, landed clubs, and the services that cater to nudism. Their interest is in protecting these agencies. The Naturist Foundation, on the other hand, is more oriented to the non-landed clubs and individuals who practice nudism outside the "industry" and are focused on protecting the rights of nudists. Since the two have different goals, it doesn't seem likely that there will be a merger anytime soon.

  As for the symbol for the International Naturist Federation, I suspect that they reserve the use of it only to their members, whereas the public-domain symbol has no such limitations. And there is no individual membership in that group, only organizations. The AANR used to be a member, but withdrew, so there is no US group represented in the Federation. The story is here:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Naturist_Federation

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  Flokie

  Nov 28, 2020

  [quote]AANR is for what you could call the "nudist industry" ... the resorts, landed clubs, and the services that cater to nudism. Their interest is in protecting these agencies. The Naturist Foundation, on the other hand, is more oriented to the non-landed clubs and individuals who practice nudism outside the "industry" and are focused on protecting the rights of nudists.[/quote]
  
  It sounds like you might be confusing AANR with the Naturist Society. Both are national umbrella organizations within the United States but neither belong to the international group that most counties have chosen to affiliate with. Beyond that Im not sure of their reasoning. Maybe they feel their efforts are best focussed inward?
  
  https://www.aanr.com/
  https://naturistsociety.com/
  https://inf-fni.org/

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  John

  Nov 29, 2020

  [quote] It sounds like you might be confusing AANR with the Naturist Society. Both are national umbrella organizations within the United States but neither belong to the international group that most counties have chosen to affiliate with. Beyond that Im not sure of their reasoning. Maybe they feel their efforts are best focussed inward? https://www.aanr.com/ https://naturistsociety.com/ https://inf-fni.org/[/quote] Yes, I meant the Naturist Society, not the Naturist Foundation. (I was working with other foundations and the word just popped out). It's the AANR that's focused more on the industry, and TNS on the legal rights of non-affiliated naturists. And I don't know why AANR pulled out of the international organization. I tracked down the post that explained it. It was by New2NoAZ, who was a public speaker and "new member ambassador" for AANR for some years. [quote] I also think it's important to understand that the AANR is not about promoting nudism...it's about promoting nudist clubs and that a big difference. They are more focused on making nudist clubs more attractive and profitable, and not as focused on fighting for things such as nude beaches and other nudist venues/activities outside of clubs. In that sense, the Naturist Society is more geared to promoting and protecting the rights of nudists and nude activities in general. [/quote] The entire post can be found here, toward the end of the page: https://www.truenudists.com/forum/thread/178505/are-nudist-clubs-slowly-killing-of-naturism/2/

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  Flokie

  Nov 30, 2020

  Thank for that.

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  Greg Jackson

  Dec 4, 2020

  All I have is a bumper sticker that says, nudist on board. Beyond that, I just use the primitive way via speech. I always casually mention my joy of nudity in most conversations. It works...kinda.
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  Connor

  Dec 5, 2020

  [quote]I've actually been wondering *why* the two large US ones and INF-FNI aren't allied. Seems weird.[/quote] For a while theywere.

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  Connor

  Dec 5, 2020

  If the document image(s) are gone, copy and paste to your browser.

  cdn.truenudists.com/media/b/7/4/b74548ab8762cb0845e4cde7e5956d891bea1c27.jpg

  Use your browser's zoom-in function.

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  John

  Dec 5, 2020

  When our local club in Sacramento opens up again, they offer membership in TNS as part of a package deal. At least, that's what I've gathered from their web site.

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  Erik NatamsOriginal Poster

  Dec 13, 2020

  [quote]I don't dislike the symbol being promoted but I do take exception to the idea that nothing existed prior to this. I would argue that the INF (International Naturist Federation) symbol is fairly well-known (or should be) and many other countries have a national organization that already has a naturist logo unique to that country. Everyone knows what FKK is and within each country the national symbol should be recognizable and if it's not, I would ask why haven't you joined your national organziation? These are the groups that fight for YOUR rights as naturists ... the legalization of beaches, lobbying government, supporting legal challenges and creating a sense of community. Get involved, be vocal, step out from behind your keyboard and enter the world of real-life, social nudism. If this is all pretty new to you and you don't know how to find your national organization, check out the International Naturist Federation website for a listing of clubs. Neither of the American organizations are members but you will find contact information for at least 50 other countries: https://inf-fni.org/[/quote] Completely true. But all the (inter)national symbols are protected by copyright. The Naturist Symbol is free to use and the independent of organisations. Specially INF has not done a great job last years. They seem to be only focussed on surviving as an organisation. (See discussion on Twitter initiated by Hector Martinez).

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  Erik NatamsOriginal Poster

  Dec 13, 2020

  [quote]All I have is a bumper sticker that says, nudist on board. Beyond that, I just use the primitive way via speech. I always casually mention my joy of nudity in most conversations. It works...kinda. ,[/quote] Those are certainly good methods. The good thing of the symbol is that it works from a distance. And it works without talking. So if you are on a beach with only textiles, and you see a naturist symbol, you know you are not the only naturist. And it is more comfortable to create a nude beach with a few others than only by yourself. (This works in many countries in Europe).

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  Erik NatamsOriginal Poster

  Dec 17, 2020

  Now there is a group on TrueNudists to show your support to the symbol: [url][link]https://www.truenudists.com/group/naturistsymbol/[/link]https://www.truenudists.com/group/naturistsymbol/[/url]

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  EarlD

  Dec 5, 2022

  [quote]I don't dislike the symbol being promoted but I do take exception to the idea that nothing existed prior to this. I would argue that the INF (International Naturist Federation) symbol is fairly well-known (or should be) and many other countries have a national organization that already has a naturist logo unique to that country. Everyone knows what FKK is and within each country the national symbol should be recognizable and if it's not, I would ask why haven't you joined your national organziation? These are the groups that fight for YOUR rights as naturists ... the legalization of beaches, lobbying government, supporting legal challenges and creating a sense of community. Get involved, be vocal, step out from behind your keyboard and enter the world of real-life, social nudism. If this is all pretty new to you and you don't know how to find your national organization, check out the International Naturist Federation website for a listing of clubs. Neither of the American organizations are members but you will find contact information for at least 50 other countries: https://inf-fni.org/[/quote] Thank you for sharing your knowledge. There is such a limited amount of knowledge on this site regarding naturism and history. Your point is well taken. The naturist symbol being discussed has its origins totally online. It was not associated with any national or regional naturist organization. I can say that with certainly because I know the person who first generated the idea and have been in connection with him online for more than 7 years. I wrote about the history of the symbol in a wiki article that extensively quotes the originator on my site. I see the symbol as more of an online representational thing that will bleed into aspects of in person naturism. It doesnt actually represent all naturists or a universal naturist symbol because the effort to create it was based on a limit amount of feedback and input online. That doesnt make it a bad symbol I like the subtle symbolism but I think its promotion as as universal should be more relaxed. I see naturists in South America have their own symbols in additional to other regions and nations. I just receive the effort and result as well intentioned with reading too broad an impact into it.

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  EarlD

  Dec 5, 2022

  [quote] It sounds like you might be confusing AANR with the Naturist Society. Both are national umbrella organizations within the United States but neither belong to the international group that most counties have chosen to affiliate with. Beyond that Im not sure of their reasoning. Maybe they feel their efforts are best focussed inward? https://www.aanr.com/ https://naturistsociety.com/ https://inf-fni.org/[/quote] Quite right people confuse these all the time. The lack of participation in global naturist community by those organizations has alway perturbed me. But the roots of that go back so far and run deep.

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