This site used to be a good one but with no proper system to filter fake accounts it is going downhill! While I am a life member I am considering leaving...one could only question the intention of admin here, are they truly trying to do something...or are they gradually changing the site to a different genre to make more $?!....For those of you out there, who are genuine nudists/ Naturists, how about we join forces and create our own site on our own server? We each of us as moderators/ admin? Who is in?
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- MEMemberOct 28, 2024
I'd rather have a "real" True Nudists site than a True Nude & Lewd site, which is whatTN is becoming. If admin redirected all the TN sex seeking members/applicants to the True Swinger site, where they belong, this site could return to what it was originally - a place for true nudists/naturists to form friendships and network amongst themselves. I'm in my 70's and rarely does a day go by without me receiving friend requests from young women with not certified and empty (fake) profiles. TN is becoming just another sex seeking site. Money seems to be more important than the principles of nudism/naturism, - the very principles that convinced me this was the site to join as a true nudist.
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HalfOct 28, 2024Oh! Naturist is an alternative, as is Nonshy too.
ReactReply - VIVincentOriginal PosterOct 28, 2024
@halof.......i do npt know which naturist site you are referring to but nonshy 8s just turning into another sexsite as well...it is not a Naturist site!
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JorgiOct 28, 2024[quote]]For those of you out there, who are genuine nudists/ Naturists, how about we join forces and create our own site on our own server? We each of us as moderators/ admin? Who is in?[/quote] I think you underestimate the effort/cost required, the lack of agreement that is likely to occur, and that somehow the new site would be immune to bots and fakes. People have high expectations of a site. Good luck with it if you decide to go ahead with it.ReactReply - MEMemberOct 29, 2024
AANR Hub is very well monitored. By invitation and approved by AANR staff.
https://www.naturisthub.com/pages/aanr-loginReactReply - MEMemberOct 29, 2024
I would much prefer that TN *kick the frauds* to the curb but dont really see it happening unless TT1 & TT2 decide it is necessary for the continuation of the site. The sheer number of fakes, bots and assorted scumbags that appear on the Feed daily are ruining it for the purist types. As Vince mentioned, the owners / moderators dont appear to be all that interested in keeping it clean. It really is taking on the look of a sheer numbers / profile / clicks game. Those of us here for Nudist / Naturist reasons are being ignored & offered up as manna for the trash. Just a large group of potential customers / sheep. Well all press on as we can but a growing number of us folks who form the consistent backbone of membership are crying out the ship is taking on water. Will TT1 & TT2 man the bilge pumps or should we all start heading for the lifeboats?
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EarlDOct 29, 2024Good points. Message me for possible collab. [quote]This site used to be a good one but with no proper system to filter fake accounts it is going downhill! While I am a life member I am considering leaving...one could only question the intention of admin here, are they truly trying to do something...or are they gradually changing the site to a different genre to make more $?!....For those of you out there, who are genuine nudists/ Naturists, how about we join forces and create our own site on our own server? We each of us as moderators/ admin? Who is in?[/quote]ReactReply - EAEarlDOct 29, 2024You are correct on your points but it is possible. Msg if you have genuine interest. [quote] I think you underestimate the effort/cost required, the lack of agreement that is likely to occur, and that somehow the new site would be immune to bots and fakes. People have high expectations of a site. Good luck with it if you decide to go ahead with it.[/quote]ReactReply
- VIVincentOriginal PosterOct 29, 2024
@sunseeker....naturisthub is by invitation, yet fakes are still making their way in...it make you question how current member select those they invite...there are ways to filter fakes, and yes that s not eady and there are cost associated ...but when you take people money and offer lifetime membership there are expectation you ll keep things running properly including the reputation of the site...presently the reputation is sliding as it is seen a refuge for weirdos and sexual predators, check the reviews online...i was happy to say i was a TN life member....no longer!
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SteveOct 29, 2024One thing I have noticed about a variety of sites - OhNaturist included, despite how carefully monitored it is - is that if it doesn't *start* with a critical mass of women (as TN did) it will never get there.
ReactReply - VIVincentOriginal PosterOct 29, 2024
Setting up a website like truenudists.com on your own server requires careful planning, especially regarding development, security, and ongoing costs. But it is not impossible. Heres a breakdown:
1. Initial Development Costs
a. Website Development
Custom Web Design & UI/UX: A well-designed user interface is essential, especially for member interactions, content sharing, and a visually appealing design for a naturist community. Cost: A$5,000 - A$10,000.
Back-End Development: User profiles, content management, chat features, forums, and secure payment integration. A more advanced social network with privacy and moderation features can increase complexity and cost. Cost: A$10,000 - A$25,000.
Mobile Responsiveness: Ensuring mobile compatibility for a seamless user experience on various devices. Cost: A$2,000 - A$5,000.
Database Setup: A secure database to store user data and images. Cost: A$2,000 - A$5,000.
b. Server Infrastructure
Dedicated Server Setup: For hosting on your own server, costs depend on specifications and provider. A typical setup with adequate storage and bandwidth can range from A$1,000 to A$5,000.
Load Balancing & Scalability: Necessary if you expect a high number of users to ensure the site performs well. Cost: A$2,000 - A$7,000.
c. Security Features
SSL Certificate: To secure user data. Cost: A$100 - A$500 annually.
Firewall & Anti-DDoS Protection: To protect against cyber threats. Cost: A$500 - A$2,000.
Encryption & Compliance Setup: For data protection, which could include GDPR compliance if you have EU users. Cost: A$1,000 - A$3,000.
d. Development Total: A$25,000 - A$60,000
2. Ongoing Running Costs
a. Server Maintenance & Hosting
Dedicated Server Rental: Approx. A$200 - A$500 per month for a reliable, high-performance server.
Content Delivery Network (CDN): To improve load times, especially if you expect international visitors. Cost: A$50 - A$300 per month.
Backups & Storage: Cost: A$50 - A$200 per month.
b. Security Maintenance
Firewall & DDoS Protection: Ongoing protection costs can be around A$100 - A$300 per month.
Regular Security Audits: Its wise to conduct periodic security audits to ensure data protection. Cost: A$1,000 - A$2,000 annually.
Vulnerability Scanning & Penetration Testing: Optional, but recommended. Cost: A$1,000 - A$3,000 per year.
c. Technical Support & Upgrades
Developer Retainer for Bug Fixes and Updates: Cost: A$1,000 - A$2,000 per month.
System Administrator: To monitor and maintain the server if needed. Cost: A$500 - A$1,500 per month.
d. Marketing and Other Operational Costs
Marketing: Cost: Varies based on strategy, but expect A$500 - A$2,000 per month for digital marketing, SEO, and outreach.
Content Moderation: For user-generated content, if not handled by AI initially. Cost: A$1,000 - A$3,000 per month.
e. Running Total: A$5,000 - A$12,000 per month
Summary
Initial Setup: A$25,000 - A$60,000
Monthly Running Cost: A$5,000 - A$12,000
ReactReply - EAEarlDOct 29, 2024Really good point. [quote]One thing I have noticed about a variety of sites - OhNaturist included, despite how carefully monitored it is - is that if it doesn't *start* with a critical mass of women (as TN did) it will never get there.[/quote]ReactReply
- EAEarlDOct 29, 2024As I have said before there are ways to minimize this. Fakes go where it is easy to get traction they do want to waste time with jumping through too many hoops. This is based on accurate experience with this kind of thing. [quote]@sunseeker....naturisthub is by invitation, yet fakes are still making their way in...it make you question how current member select those they invite...there are ways to filter fakes, and yes that s not eady and there are cost associated ...but when you take people money and offer lifetime membership there are expectation you ll keep things running properly including the reputation of the site...presently the reputation is sliding as it is seen a refuge for weirdos and sexual predators, check the reviews online...i was happy to say i was a TN life member....no longer![/quote]ReactReply
- EAEarlDOct 29, 2024Curious where you are getting your numbers Are you a web developer? [quote]Setting up a website like truenudists.com on your own server requires careful planning, especially regarding development, security, and ongoing costs. But it is not impossible. Heres a breakdown: 1. Initial Development Costs a. Website Development Custom Web Design & UI/UX: A well-designed user interface is essential, especially for member interactions, content sharing, and a visually appealing design for a naturist community. Cost: A$5,000 - A$10,000. Back-End Development: User profiles, content management, chat features, forums, and secure payment integration. A more advanced social network with privacy and moderation features can increase complexity and cost. Cost: A$10,000 - A$25,000. Mobile Responsiveness: Ensuring mobile compatibility for a seamless user experience on various devices. Cost: A$2,000 - A$5,000. Database Setup: A secure database to store user data and images. Cost: A$2,000 - A$5,000. b. Server Infrastructure Dedicated Server Setup: For hosting on your own server, costs depend on specifications and provider. A typical setup with adequate storage and bandwidth can range from A$1,000 to A$5,000. Load Balancing & Scalability: Necessary if you expect a high number of users to ensure the site performs well. Cost: A$2,000 - A$7,000. c. Security Features SSL Certificate: To secure user data. Cost: A$100 - A$500 annually. Firewall & Anti-DDoS Protection: To protect against cyber threats. Cost: A$500 - A$2,000. Encryption & Compliance Setup: For data protection, which could include GDPR compliance if you have EU users. Cost: A$1,000 - A$3,000. d. Development Total: A$25,000 - A$60,000 2. Ongoing Running Costs a. Server Maintenance & Hosting Dedicated Server Rental: Approx. A$200 - A$500 per month for a reliable, high-performance server. Content Delivery Network (CDN): To improve load times, especially if you expect international visitors. Cost: A$50 - A$300 per month. Backups & Storage: Cost: A$50 - A$200 per month. b. Security Maintenance Firewall & DDoS Protection: Ongoing protection costs can be around A$100 - A$300 per month. Regular Security Audits: Its wise to conduct periodic security audits to ensure data protection. Cost: A$1,000 - A$2,000 annually. Vulnerability Scanning & Penetration Testing: Optional, but recommended. Cost: A$1,000 - A$3,000 per year. c. Technical Support & Upgrades Developer Retainer for Bug Fixes and Updates: Cost: A$1,000 - A$2,000 per month. System Administrator: To monitor and maintain the server if needed. Cost: A$500 - A$1,500 per month. d. Marketing and Other Operational Costs Marketing: Cost: Varies based on strategy, but expect A$500 - A$2,000 per month for digital marketing, SEO, and outreach. Content Moderation: For user-generated content, if not handled by AI initially. Cost: A$1,000 - A$3,000 per month. e. Running Total: A$5,000 - A$12,000 per month Summary Initial Setup: A$25,000 - A$60,000 Monthly Running Cost: A$5,000 - A$12,000[/quote]ReactReply
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DerekOct 29, 2024No website is perfect. No members are perfect (I, myself am far from it). But I cannot say I'm not getting my "Lifetime Membership's" worth.
Sharon and I have made many friends here -- some of whom have visited our home, some others we have met up with at nudist resorts -- or even a cafe for coffee. Still others we have exchanged phone #s and email addresses.
Fact is, you just don't know who's a fake until they stand you up for meeting, -- or get chummy real fast then ask for money (or sex, or personal porn pix). Wouldn't you agree?
On the other hand, I have had many communications (TN PMs) with a hundred couples (and a few single men and women) -- great chats and lengthily discussions on a broad range of topics. If they're fake, they're interesting and entertaining nevertheless.
If purging fakes is a good thing, so too would be purging members who have not accessed the TN site in the past 5 years. Maybe, not purge, but set aside as "inactive." I often search for members in a certain area, say, within a 100 mile radius of my zip code. Out of 227 members, only 43 have been on TN during the past 12 months.
Derek
ReactReply - VIVincentOriginal PosterOct 29, 2024
@homeclothesfree....the numbers are in Australian dollars...i m not a developer, just someone who has researched, how much it will cost to launch his site on own server...
ReactReply - MEMemberOct 29, 2024I'm not sure how you guys are seeing bots, fakes, and scumbags on your feed unless you have friended them. All I see are activities from people I have friended or groups I have joined. I don't accept friend requests from just anybody who asks. I check their page first, and if it's private, I don't accept. [quote]The sheer number of fakes, bots and assorted scumbags that appear on the Feed daily are ruining it for the purist types. [/quote]ReactReply
- EAEarlDOct 29, 2024So as a web developer IMHO your number seem a little high. An important thing to understand is your dont have to launch at the highest capacity at first but you have to be able to scale. [quote]@homeclothesfree....the numbers are in Australian dollars...i m not a developer, just someone who has researched, how much it will cost to launch his site on own server...[/quote]ReactReply
- JO
JohnOct 29, 2024[quote]I'm not sure how you guys are seeing bots, fakes, and scumbags on your feed unless you have friended them. All I see are activities from people I have friended or groups I have joined. I don't accept friend requests from just anybody who asks. I check their page first, and if it's private, I don't accept. The sheer number of fakes, bots and assorted scumbags that appear on the Feed daily are ruining it for the purist types.[/quote] There is a "site" feed. By default, it lists all new accounts, new certifications, and new media posted. You can filter to show just new accounts, just new certifications, just new photos, or just new videos if you want. This is separate from your profile feed that only shows activity from your "Friends". John aka cobeachbumReactReply - JOJohnOct 29, 2024[quote]I'd rather have a "real" True Nudists site than a True Nude & Lewd site, which is whatTN is becoming. If admin redirected all the TN sex seeking members/applicants to the True Swinger site, where they belong, this site could return to what it was originally - a place for true nudists/naturists to form friendships and network amongst themselves. I'm in my 70's and rarely does a day go by without me receiving friend requests from young women with not certified and empty (fake) profiles. TN is becoming just another sex seeking site. Money seems to be more important than the principles of nudism/naturism, - the very principles that convinced me this was the site to join as a true nudist.[/quote] 99% of the problems could be solved with two simple actions: 1. All new accounts are read only until certified to include uploading photos. 2. Profile and background photos can only be selected from the users gallery of pre-moderated and approved photos. John aka cobeachbumReactReply
- JOJorgiOct 29, 2024[quote]@homeclothesfree....the numbers are in Australian dollars...i m not a developer, just someone who has researched, how much it will cost to launch his site on own server...[/quote] As an ex DBA, $2,000-$5,000 seems a bit light for database setup. That probably wouldn't even cover the database design. A new site would need to be well designed, otherwise you are just patching it all the time to make it work the way intended.ReactReply
- OR
oriOct 30, 2024i wonder which future for TN and TS. too many fake account and spam. wondering if the site is managed. not much newbies. am on Oh and nonshy too but i used to like it here, but i see the traffic is getting less and less. even ths management of the picture to upload has changed. wish it will be back to be more fun and active and inter active
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i wonder which future for TN and TS. too many fake account and spam. wondering if the site is managed. not much newbies. am on Oh and nonshy too but i used to like it here, but i see the traffic is getting less and less. even ths management of the picture to upload has changed. wish it will be back to be more fun and active and inter active
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TerryOct 30, 2024[quote]No website is perfect. No members are perfect (I, myself am far from it). But I cannot say I'm not getting my "Lifetime Membership's" worth. Sharon and I have made many friends here -- some of whom have visited our home, some others we have met up with at nudist resorts -- or even a cafe for coffee. Still others we have exchanged phone #s and email addresses. Fact is, you just don't know who's a fake until they stand you up for meeting, -- or get chummy real fast then ask for money (or sex, or personal porn pix). Wouldn't you agree? On the other hand, I have had many communications (TN PMs) with a hundred couples (and a few single men and women) -- great chats and lengthily discussions on a broad range of topics. If they're fake, they're interesting and entertaining nevertheless. If purging fakes is a good thing, so too would be purging members who have not accessed the TN site in the past 5 years. Maybe, not purge, but set aside as "inactive." I often search for members in a certain area, say, within a 100 mile radius of my zip code. Out of 227 members, only 43 have been on TN during the past 12 months. Derek[/quote] JohnJean, I agree with you and think you bring up some valid points!ReactReply