Objectifying others...

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  David

  Jul 16, 2013

  I do not feel it is right to objectify anyone.  Unfortunately it occurs no matter how hard we try not too.  We get angry or feel down or whatever emotion, and feel the need to take it out on something or someone...even ourselves.  It doesn't make it right.  I try to be mutually respectful, yet I sometimes make light of someone or, because I tend to be sarcastic at times, hurt people without realizing it.  I tend to be more respectful while online as I can edit my comments, plus I have more time to think it all out and act right.  I am still a good person in real life, but the filter sometimes fails and I speak before thinking it out fully. Any rebuttals?

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  DanandJanette

  Jul 16, 2013

  [quote]Do you feel it is okay to objectify another human being?  Why or why not?[/quote] Of course not. Admire yes, objectify no.
  

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  BornAgainOriginal Poster

  Jul 16, 2013

  [quote][quote]Do you feel it is okay to objectify another human being?  Why or why not?[/quote] Of course not. Admire yes, objectify no.
  [/quote]You say of course not but people clearly choose to objectify self and others every day and not only make the choice to do it themselves but encourage others to do so... I saw recently on another social network page, parents encouraging their children to use people.  Blah.
  

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  DesertRat

  Jul 16, 2013

  People are individuals and not objects. People have feelings, objects do not. To consider a person to be an object is very demeaning. In our society this is done all the time and I feel it tends to break down society, not build it up. Unfortunately it is probably done more to women than to men and this causes women to receive less respect than they should have or deserve.
  
  One of the worst offenders of this probably is the mass media. They have a habit and vested interest in putting a label on almost everyone. We all can probably remember being told as a child that if you can't say something nice about a person, don't say anything. How many of us can honestly say that we always follow that rule?

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  BornAgainOriginal Poster

  Jul 17, 2013

  [quote]Of course we all do objectify others.  We have to.  If we discuss things about humans, it is too complicated to think about each individual.  We have to aggregate humans to be able to describe them.  Legislators do this all of the time.  Teachers do this when talking about students in general. Then there are the bad reasons.  For example to allow us to live with ourselves after we do something mean to another.  We can rationalize the meanness if done to an object instead of a person.[/quote]Well stated but do we truly have to?  Is it my place?  Just throwing thoughts out there...

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  BornAgainOriginal Poster

  Jul 17, 2013

  [quote]People are individuals and not objects. People have feelings, objects do not. To consider a person to be an object is very demeaning. In our society this is done all the time and I feel it tends to break down society, not build it up. Unfortunately it is probably done more to women than to men and this causes women to receive less respect than they should have or deserve.
  
  One of the worst offenders of this probably is the mass media. They have a habit and vested interest in putting a label on almost everyone. We all can probably remember being told as a child that if you can't say something nice about a person, don't say anything. How many of us can honestly say that we always follow that rule?[/quote]Yes.  No one in their right mind can say they are without fault but that doesn't negate responsibility and better choice in the future.  Thank you for sharing.

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  DesertRat

  Jul 19, 2013

  1 Love,
  
  When I first saw your post, I was a little confused about it. Then I realized what you were talking about. It is a very deep, intriguing and insightful question. May I suggest that you go back and change the title to something a little more pertinent to the subject? I don't feel that this post is getting the response it deserves.

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  John

  Jul 19, 2013

  A philosophical wank if ever I saw one.

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  BornAgainOriginal Poster

  Jul 19, 2013

  [quote]1 Love,
  
  When I first saw your post, I was a little confused about it. Then I realized what you were talking about. It is a very deep, intriguing and insightful question. May I suggest that you go back and change the title to something a little more pertinent to the subject? I don't feel that this post is getting the response it deserves.[/quote]Thank you DR.  I will as I do enjoy hearing other's perspectives.

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  BornAgainOriginal Poster

  Jul 19, 2013

  [quote]I do not feel it is right to objectify anyone.  Unfortunately it occurs no matter how hard we try not too.  We get angry or feel down or whatever emotion, and feel the need to take it out on something or someone...even ourselves.  It doesn't make it right.  I try to be mutually respectful, yet I sometimes make light of someone or, because I tend to be sarcastic at times, hurt people without realizing it.  I tend to be more respectful while online as I can edit my comments, plus I have more time to think it all out and act right.  I am still a good person in real life, but the filter sometimes fails and I speak before thinking it out fully. Any rebuttals?[/quote]No rebuttals from me.  Thank you for sharing your opinion, I appreciate you.

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  DesertRat

  Jul 19, 2013

  Thanks for taking my advice and changing the title of this thread. I too enjoy reading the perspectives of others on a wide range of subjects. This is what I love about the Forum. Unfortunately we have to put up with a lot of trolls and bomb throwers. If we ignore them we can still have a very good discussion.

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  BornAgainOriginal Poster

  Jul 22, 2013

  [quote]Thanks for taking my advice and changing the title of this thread. I too enjoy reading the perspectives of others on a wide range of subjects. This is what I love about the Forum. Unfortunately we have to put up with a lot of trolls and bomb throwers. If we ignore them we can still have a very good discussion.[/quote]Hey DR, you're welcome.  Me too.  Yes we can. :)

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  to_be_cloths_free

  Jul 28, 2013

  [quote] I am still a good person in real life, but the filter sometimes fails and I speak before thinking it out fully. Any rebuttals?[/quote]Well this is the classic case of"opening your mouth to speak before you put your brain into gear "as we all do at times.

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  BornAgainOriginal Poster

  Aug 17, 2013

  [quote][quote] I am still a good person in real life, but the filter sometimes fails and I speak before thinking it out fully. Any rebuttals?[/quote]Well this is the classic case of"opening your mouth to speak before you put your brain into gear "as we all do at times.[/quote]Or your fingers to type... I'm quick to type when I'm angry (my wpm typing come out in full force and I'm able to type at top speeds, it's cathartic really, soothing to hear my speedy fingers tap out so quickly, releasing my anger through them) but fortunately am learning to reread and ponder before sending off... or listening or reading carefully, thoroughly, before speaking or sending because my brain tends to hear what it wants and not between the lines where the need often resides.  [img][/img]

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  Grant

  Aug 22, 2013

  Post #17 you've nailed it. I have experienced similar and couldn't agree more with you.
  

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