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Posted Mar 1, 2022

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ME
MemberOriginal Poster
Mar 1, 2022

Given that My American Flag avatar and post was removed with no explanation, it has come to the point where the Arizona politicians need to get involved and contact the suburban Phoenix Arizona office where TN is located to personally ask why a symbol such as the American Flag is so offensive that it is being removed by and from a Phoenix Arizona based website!

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  • ME
    MemberOriginal Poster
    Mar 6, 2022

    Back to the topic at hand:

    How do the computer experts here explain the following facts:

    1) Several of us had our avatars removed several times. Yet others who had the exact same avatar did not. The only way for this to occur is if some do not have their photos reviewed by the computer code whereas others do. Who gets this 'free pass' here where they were put on the exempt from scanning list? Why was my avatar changed to a different one that was not second in line. Does the computer code just randomly select any photo that it wishes even though all of the photos are generated from the same source. Flat image does not apply here.

    2) Several topics were entirely removed by something other then the original poster. There was nothing offensive posted to 'flag' the computer code into action. Does the computer just randomly select topics and delete them?

    3) Why has the deletion of the avatars suddenly stopped? Has the code suddenly been changed to allow this? Is there no moderation or human interaction here?

    Certainly images can be erased by code glitches or mistake but the history of events here show something very suspicious here. Excusing away human involvement and interaction is nothing more then an excuse to avoid holding anyone accountable here. Human involvement is certainly the chief suspect here.

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  • ME
    MemberOriginal Poster
    Mar 6, 2022
    [quote]thankfully most of us are not restricted by limited understanding as a previous post implied[/quote] Yes some of us are driven by a common sense and a belief in what society overall considers right and wrong. Certainly all people have freedom to an extent but when those freedoms are abused, then restrictions are put into place. People here certainly have the right to disagree but they do not have the right to put words in our mouths.
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  • ME
    MemberOriginal Poster
    Mar 6, 2022

    We have a large Ukranian community here who are out demonstrating each and every day. I invite the two pro Russian supporters who have never denounced the Russian invasion to come and exercise their free rights by burning Ukranian flags in front of the demonstrators. While they are at it, they can burn a couple of American flags too. Let's see what kind of response they will get from society. I do not believe for a millisecond that anyone would come forward from the crowds and scream about these two's 'rights' to do so. Talk is cheap and actions speak louder then words. Come here and burn some flags if you so strongly believe in doing so. Let's see what happens.

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  • ME
    MemberOriginal Poster
    Mar 7, 2022

    Funny how our two flag burning proponents answer no questions about their military service. Neither has served and yet claim to be experts on what US Military personal believe. One does not even live in the USA and yet claims to be an expert on American affairs. Yet, he most likely would not appreciate Americans lecturing Canadians about their affairs or claiming to be experts on Canada. The fact is that both would not dare to exercise their 'rights' to burn flags because they know what would happen to them. If they do not happen to wind up in the hospital from the beatings they would receive, they would wind up on one court after another because any and every law would be thrown at them to make them pay the price for their stupidity. Images of burning American flags disgust people because what most people know are the foreign savages who burn our flag out of their hatred for America. The overwhelming majority of Americans respect our flag and thankfully there are very few and rare instances of our flag being burned. Traitors and foreigners who want to burn flags need to come and try it - and then they will see what americans will do to them. Our flag unites us all but that does not mean that there are gutless cowards and traitors who would use it to divide and destroy our nation.

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  • PA
    Paul
    Paul
    Mar 9, 2022
    Here are the image guidelines. [quote] If you uploaded a flat graphic, the software will determine that it isn't a face or a body and reject it. You can find the policies for acceptable images for the site somewhere on here, and I almost guarantee that it's not that it was a flag, US, Ukraine or otherwise, it's that it reads as a flat graphic or avatar and I don't think those are allowed here at all. [/quote] Media Upload Rules No headless shots allowed if genitals are shown, PARTIAL FACE must at least be shown Pictures must be nudist-friendly. No voyeuristic, exhibitionist photos No sexual pictures, erections, crotch shots or pornographic pictures are not allowed No Spread Eagle, or shots where the butt, genitals or anus are the main focus point. No photos containing anyone under the age of 18. Even clothed photos All pictures can be deleted at the discretion of the administrator Please rotate, crop or adjust all photos, prior to upload. Improperly uploaded photos will be removed As of 10/15/2021 : ONLY VERIFIED MEMBERS CAN UPLOAD PHOTOS CONTAINING NUDITY. ANY NUDE PHOTOS UPLOADED WILL BE DELETED I don't see anything about flat graphic.
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  • TD
    Tom D
    Tom D
    Mar 9, 2022
    [quote]Here are the image guidelines. If you uploaded a flat graphic, the software will determine that it isn't a face or a body and reject it. You can find the policies for acceptable images for the site somewhere on here, and I almost guarantee that it's not that it was a flag, US, Ukraine or otherwise, it's that it reads as a flat graphic or avatar and I don't think those are allowed here at all. Media Upload Rules No headless shots allowed if genitals are shown, PARTIAL FACE must at least be shown Pictures must be nudist-friendly. No voyeuristic, exhibitionist photos No sexual pictures, erections, crotch shots or pornographic pictures are not allowed No Spread Eagle, or shots where the butt, genitals or anus are the main focus point. No photos containing anyone under the age of 18. Even clothed photos All pictures can be deleted at the discretion of the administrator Please rotate, crop or adjust all photos, prior to upload. Improperly uploaded photos will be removed As of 10/15/2021 : ONLY VERIFIED MEMBERS CAN UPLOAD PHOTOS CONTAINING NUDITY. ANY NUDE PHOTOS UPLOADED WILL BE DELETED I don't see anything about flat graphic.[/quote] I posted some minimally clothed pictures, genitals not showing , and not violating any of the posted rules, and they were still deleted. For some unknown reason they were still deleted at the discretion of an administrator. At that point I decided not to try again.
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  • PA
    Paul
    Paul
    Mar 9, 2022
    There was a time during which I was dealing with a psycho moderator. [quote] I posted some minimally clothed pictures, genitals not showing , and not violating any of the posted rules, and they were still deleted. For some unknown reason they were still deleted at the discretion of an administrator. At that point I decided not to try again. [/quote] Everything I posted got deleted. Images of flower, trees, landscapes, and headshots. Didn't matter what it was, if I posted it, it got deleted.
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  • PA
    Paul
    Paul
    Mar 9, 2022
    This is the worst part of it. [quote] What I want to know is why "They" don't respond and its a cognizant member making suppositions about the actions of the site. This lack of response is what dissuades me from becoming a paid member. Active and attentive website is a minimum expectation. [/quote] Having something deleted really isn't a big deal. Rather, it's the fact that no explanation is given; you never know why a particular image was removed. There is no appeal. There is no oversight. There is no redress. There is no consistency. There is no recourse other than to post the image again. And I know of people who simply keep reposting until the image is left alone.
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  • ME
    MemberOriginal Poster
    Mar 9, 2022
    [quote]They use ...The bottom line re: censorship is ...What I want to know is why "They" don't respond and its a cognizant member making suppositions about the actions of the site. This lack of response is what dissuades me from becoming a paid member. Active and attentive website is a minimum expectation.[/quote]

    I have posted the exact history of what was deleted and when it was deleted. As far as avatars are concerned, several of us had our Ukraine flag avatars deleted while others who had the same flag avatars did not have their avatars deleted. Once I notified TT2, this stopped. I do not believe that in our specific case, that the data or information indicates anything other then a person deleted our avatars. Computer code does not discriminate here between two individuals with two identical photos unless it is programmed to do so. I do not believe that the code is either programmed to give certain individuals a 'free pass' while others are discriminated against and I do not believe that once TT2 was notified of the deletion of the avatars, the code was instantly fixed. Others may or may not experience code related problems with deletion of their photos as their data history may be entirely different. The code may or may not be unstable but in this particular instance this is unlikely because of the fact that once TT2 was notified, the problem instantly stopped.

    The way to identify the problem is simply to gather all pertinent facts, examine them, and come to a sensible and logical solution. Otherwise all that people are doing is to offer wild speculations and opinions about what may or may not happen. This would be akin to the car repair mechanic refusing to gather information and properly diagnose car problems but instead resorts to 'throwing' parts at the problem in a hit or miss fashion until the problem is fixed (hopefully). Sadly, none of us receive any feedback and so the best that we can do is to keep speculating and bringing the problem to the attention of TT2.
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  • ME
    MemberOriginal Poster
    Mar 13, 2022

    Bump it up.

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