Hi All,
This is my frst post and I'm no doubt diving into controversy...
One thing that strikes me about this site is the obvious intention to keep it free from those who choose to abuse the naturist tag. The options to flag profiles and the TrueNudist Certification is a great idea.
However one thing I've noticed is that some users will select fairly obvious sexually referenced nicknames.
Two I've across so far (I'll paraphrase as I can't remember the exact spellings...) are 'Pussy Licker' and 'Bum Lover', I may be wrong but these people (both men as it happens) don't sound like they are here to enjoy PG rated naturism.
Ok, I've opened a can of worms so...
Should the site allow suggestive nicknames ?
Have a good one
Fettler
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- MEMemberOct 22, 2008[quote]Hi All, This is my frst post and I'm no doubt diving into controversy... One thing that strikes me about this site is the obvious intention to keep it free from those who choose to abuse the naturist tag. The options to flag profiles and the TrueNudist Certification is a great idea. However one thing I've noticed is that some users will select fairly obvious sexually referenced nicknames. Ok, I've opened a can of worms so... Should the site allow suggestive nicknames ? Have a good one Screen Names are just that, but the one's you mentioned would raise a red flag to me, most times with names like that you do not need to search any further, the name says it all, unfortunlaty their is no way to control it unless the Admin was approving memberships (as should be) otherwise it is wide open to anyone to apply for what ever reason. [/quote]ReactReply
- MEMemberOct 22, 2008
Sometimes it is not at it appears. There is a user on here that goes by "BareDick". But it is not meant to be suggestive. He has gone by the shortened version of richard, ie "dick", all his life. Bare of course being a reference to being a nudist. So sometimes things aren't as they seem. Just thought I'd drop that in there.
Thanks,
JerryReactReply - PH
PhilfreeeukOct 22, 2008Should the site allow suggestive nicknames ?
ABSOLUTELY NOT!
Glad you brought this up, I was quite shocked to see it on here and it definitely needs sorting.
Lets start a petition!
As far as Baredick goes, he should have had the sense to choose a more appropriate name.ReactReply - SWSwifthawkOct 22, 2008
I can see both sides of the issue really, but in the end I think that names such as suggested need to go. Sure, they will give you an idea of what the poster is all about, but we don't need the suggestion that this site is even remotely related to sex. That said, I do think that the name issue is a rather low priority and there are more important issues that need to be addressed first. Until then, I suggest that if you don't want to associate with those kinds of people either ignore them or flag them.
ReactReply - MEMemberOct 23, 2008[quote]Should the site allow suggestive nicknames ? ABSOLUTELY NOT! Glad you brought this up, I was quite shocked to see it on here and it definitely needs sorting. Lets start a petition! As far as Baredick goes, he should have had the sense to choose a more appropriate name.[/quote] Phil, I think he thought he was. I'd say it never occured to him. He is actually my father in real life and well, it's just his name preceded by the word bare. Hard to see it as inappropriate when it's your name. Thanks JerryReactReply
- MEMemberOct 23, 2008[quote]I am more of the live and let live category, in my experience, people who are in fact not here strictly for the nudist lifestyle will soon fall by the wayside, and even if you required a "tame" username, it won't change the character or intent of the person behind the name. Dave[/quote] I agree Dave, those that think it is cool to have a "special" name will get tired of the place and die out. It may take a little time. Thanks - JerryReactReply
- MEMemberOct 23, 2008[quote]I am more of the live and let live category, in my experience, people who are in fact not here strictly for the nudist lifestyle will soon fall by the wayside, and even if you required a "tame" username, it won't change the character or intent of the person behind the name. Dave[/quote] Only way is for us to know if one's suggestive user name is bad would be to associate the name with pictues of the user and or the actions of the user, but do think some of the names are a bit out of line. And it is asked many times "Why don't more women post" well with names like that I don't blame them for not posting. EdReactReply
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PhilfreeeukOct 23, 2008[quote][quote]I am more of the live and let live category, in my experience, people who are in fact not here strictly for the nudist lifestyle will soon fall by the wayside, and even if you required a "tame" username, it won't change the character or intent of the person behind the name. Dave[/quote] Only way is for us to know if one's suggestive user name is bad would be to associate the name with pictues of the user and or the actions of the user, but do think some of the names are a bit out of line. And it is asked many times "Why don't more women post" well with names like that I don't blame them for not posting. Ed[/quote] Sorry Ed, have to disagree, either the name is generally considered to be suggestive or not, regardless of the type of profile it's on. It's unfortunate if an innocent pet name falls into that category, but we're talking general perception, and if a name is generally perceived to be suggestive, to my mind, it has no place on a naturists site.ReactReply - PH
PhilfreeeukOct 23, 2008[quote]I can see both sides of the issue really, but in the end I think that names such as suggested need to go. Sure, they will give you an idea of what the poster is all about, but we don't need the suggestion that this site is even remotely related to sex. That said, I do think that the name issue is a rather low priority and there are more important issues that need to be addressed first. Until then, I suggest that if you don't want to associate with those kinds of people either ignore them or flag them.[/quote] Totally agree Swifty, but it wouldn't take long to do as I've seen on other sites, replace the name with something like "Member" to encourage the owner to change it.ReactReply - PH
PhilfreeeukOct 23, 2008[quote]I am more of the live and let live category, in my experience, people who are in fact not here strictly for the nudist lifestyle will soon fall by the wayside, and even if you required a "tame" username, it won't change the character or intent of the person behind the name. Dave[/quote] Well Dave, I am more of the shoot first category, hehe, you only have to look at society to-day to see what the live and let live attitude has produced. Why should we have to wait for them to fall by the wayside. Even if they do, they may go away, but not delete their profile. No it won't change the character or intent of the person behind the name, and I have often though that at least on the unmoderated sites, you can more easily see what the person is like, but it puts off the nice people and you find yourself left in a place you don't want to be :(ReactReply - DA
DavidOct 23, 2008I guess it all depends on how "free" you want the site to be. Personally, I think that type of nickname tends to indicate that the user is here for prurient purposes. If he is, he'll find out soon enough that he's not going to find what he's looking for here. I'd say let it be, unless the user starts to be a pain, or have rude conduct. I feel better about giving someone the boot for his actual conduct, rather than just for choosing a nickname that we might have a hidden meaning we're not aware of.
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PhilfreeeukOct 23, 2008[quote]I see your point Phil, and it is a valid one. I am a bit more rebellious, I don't really care much for censorship of any form, it is like many other "sensible" rules. Who gets to choose what is sensible, or proper? Should it be left up to the site administrator only? (my favorite) Or should we let the site members decide? (not my favorite, you'll never win) So in the interest of keeping the quality of the site, I would hope that the site admin would look at each new members user name prior to approval, and either approve or deny based on their established criteria. Dave[/quote] Nice idea Dave, but I suspect that would mean increasing TT's workload and us having to wait longer to get other stuff done, It's probably quicker from his point of view to let us flag up the offenders.ReactReply - MEMemberOct 23, 2008[quote][quote]I can see both sides of the issue really, but in the end I think that names such as suggested need to go. Sure, they will give you an idea of what the poster is all about, but we don't need the suggestion that this site is even remotely related to sex. That said, I do think that the name issue is a rather low priority and there are more important issues that need to be addressed first. Until then, I suggest that if you don't want to associate with those kinds of people either ignore them or flag them.[/quote] Totally agree Swifty, but it wouldn't take long to do as I've seen on other sites, replace the name with something like "Member" to encourage the owner to change it.[/quote] Lol, he said "Member", lmao, like "tool"? I have a member....roflmao...... sorry Phil, just struck me funny......ReactReply
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PhilfreeeukOct 23, 2008[quote][quote][quote]I can see both sides of the issue really, but in the end I think that names such as suggested need to go. Sure, they will give you an idea of what the poster is all about, but we don't need the suggestion that this site is even remotely related to sex. That said, I do think that the name issue is a rather low priority and there are more important issues that need to be addressed first. Until then, I suggest that if you don't want to associate with those kinds of people either ignore them or flag them.[/quote] Totally agree Swifty, but it wouldn't take long to do as I've seen on other sites, replace the name with something like "Member" to encourage the owner to change it.[/quote] Lol, he said "Member", lmao, like "tool"? I have a member....roflmao...... sorry Phil, just struck me funny......[/quote] HAHAHAHA, ..........I certainly walked into that one! heheheReactReply - MEMemberOct 23, 2008
Few things that came to mind while reading...Censorship, big read flag as far as I'm concerned no matter who's doing the censoring. It's just a bad thing all around. Setup guidelines and rules on the join page? For sure. Enforce the rules? Deffinately. I doubt that it would increase the workload all that much to enforce set rules when you allow the membership to monitor itself to a certain extent as is the case here. With the option of flagging profiles for the admin it makes finding them much easier and much less time consuming than having to individually approve each membership application. In the future perhaps when the site has been sorted and moderator tasks have been delegated that screening process would make more sense.
Like uni and bugaboo stated above, a persons username usually speaks volumes about what that persons going to be all about and a peek into their profile will almost always confirm it if they have bothered to fill one out. Sometimes a name truely is just unfortunate though. I have an uncle named Richard and I always felt strange calling him Uncle Dick. Also have a friend named Richard who I refuse to call Dick. I suppose it really is the context which the name is used in though that makes all the difference. Anyway, I moved away from the point there. Folks who choose those descrptive names that are obviously here for the wrong intentions will fall to the wayside pretty quickly once they realize that they aren't going to get what they want here. Or won't be allowed to get what they want here after being flagged by the more upstanding membership at large.ReactReply - SWSwifthawkOct 24, 2008[quote]Few things that came to mind while reading...Censorship, big read flag as far as I'm concerned no matter who's doing the censoring. It's just a bad thing all around. Setup guidelines and rules on the join page? For sure. Enforce the rules? Deffinately. I doubt that it would increase the workload all that much to enforce set rules when you allow the membership to monitor itself to a certain extent as is the case here. With the option of flagging profiles for the admin it makes finding them much easier and much less time consuming than having to individually approve each membership application. In the future perhaps when the site has been sorted and moderator tasks have been delegated that screening process would make more sense. Like uni and bugaboo stated above, a persons username usually speaks volumes about what that persons going to be all about and a peek into their profile will almost always confirm it if they have bothered to fill one out. Sometimes a name truely is just unfortunate though. I have an uncle named Richard and I always felt strange calling him Uncle Dick. Also have a friend named Richard who I refuse to call Dick. I suppose it really is the context which the name is used in though that makes all the difference. Anyway, I moved away from the point there. Folks who choose those descrptive names that are obviously here for the wrong intentions will fall to the wayside pretty quickly once they realize that they aren't going to get what they want here. Or won't be allowed to get what they want here after being flagged by the more upstanding membership at large.[/quote] I agree with what your saying Steve, but you mention censorship and I would like to give my thoughts on it. While I think that censorship in general is wrong (infact I'm dead set against it), this is a private site. People who sign up to use the site agree to abide by it's rules and while I don't recall any set rules on usernames, the site admins have made it quite clear that sex is not tolerated here. So, these people who decide to be pussy lickers or whatever, they should know that their profile is breaking the rules. I have seen the freedom of speach a/o censorship argument before on message boards and it's always bothered me. It's not that they are not allowed to have these profile names and talk the talk they want to talk, they just can't do it here. There are other sites that cater to these people and they are welcome to it, this site is for nudists. What people fail to understand, is that it is a privlege to post here, not a right. Hehe...JR, personally I don't think Baredick is a suggestive name at all (kind of missed it before). Even if people want to take it as a bare penis, what's the big deal? Unlike pussy, cock and other names for our sexual organs, dick has always been a realtively acceptable substitute for penis. So, even if someone is taking it as dick being a penis, as nudists that is what we are doing, baring our penises (lol...for those of us who have them that is).
While Baredick might be an inappropriate name for a hardcore Christian site let's say, I don' think it would be inappropriate here.ReactReply - MEMemberOct 24, 2008
Yeah Swifty I agree with you on the difference between censorship and following/enforcing the rules of the site. When the red flag censorship thing comes up I tend to get a bit excited and I think my point on that may have gotten lost in the mix. You are absolutely correct that the admin of the site has every right in the world to set rules and standards to be followed in what is acceptable behavior on the site. The key there though I think is that those rules should be clearly stated and then properly enforced. Where the line of following rules and censorship may be crossed for example would be in the case of forum posts etc. that perhaps don't follow along with the admins personal beliefs being deleted or altered in some way. Not that I think that's ever happened or ever likely to happen here.
ReactReply - SWSwifthawkOct 24, 2008
Yeah, I know what you mean. I've looked, but is there a TOS (terms of service) anywhere on here? I know there are general guidelines on posting here, but it would be a good idea for them to have a formal one put up. Currently, it's pretty broad, if they have clear and cut rules it would not only be easier for posters to post, but for them to moderate.
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Thanks Swifty for the comments on Baredick. I think a little more tolerance all the way around would be helpful. He's at that age now where he doesn't feel the need to conform. Not that it was intentional, but at this point, he'd keep it just to make a point. Gads, I'm only a few years away from that age, what is Jackie going to do with me then???? ack.
- JerryReactReply - MEMemberJan 11, 2009
Judging and censoring others because of their (Interpreted)choice of 'suggestive profile names' used shouldn't be used alone to cause concern. When photos and text back up the suggestiveness, that's when someone might take action to flag the profile. Starting a new level of censorship will lead to more and more and more levels, and we'll all eventually be so wrapped up in what's PC on here vs. promoting the one thing we all believe and have in common, the right to be liberated and 'free' to be nude. This type of censorship reflects the problems that nudists are having with being nude legally, publicly, and openly within our societies. Where would it end? how restricted would we eventually get here? Would everybody have to eventually be fully clothed and standing like bowling pins in each and every pic so that nobody will have absolutely any objections to anything on this site. Judge the book by it's content, not the cover.
Now read what I said carefully before jumping in front of the horse, I'm not contradicting what I've posted before.ReactReply - MEMemberJan 11, 2009[quote][quote]I can see both sides of the issue really, but in the end I think that names such as suggested need to go. Sure, they will give you an idea of what the poster is all about, but we don't need the suggestion that this site is even remotely related to sex. That said, I do think that the name issue is a rather low priority and there are more important issues that need to be addressed first. Until then, I suggest that if you don't want to associate with those kinds of people either ignore them or flag them.[/quote] Totally agree Swifty, but it wouldn't take long to do as I've seen on other sites, replace the name with something like "Member" to encourage the owner to change it.[/quote] Ummm, Phil? When looking at connotations of names, wouldn't "member" be just as suggestive as "Dick"? LOLReactReply
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PhilfreeeukJan 11, 2009[quote][quote][quote][quote]I can see both sides of the issue really, but in the end I think that names such as suggested need to go. Sure, they will give you an idea of what the poster is all about, but we don't need the suggestion that this site is even remotely related to sex. That said, I do think that the name issue is a rather low priority and there are more important issues that need to be addressed first. Until then, I suggest that if you don't want to associate with those kinds of people either ignore them or flag them.[/quote] Totally agree Swifty, but it wouldn't take long to do as I've seen on other sites, replace the name with something like "Member" to encourage the owner to change it.[/quote] Lol, he said "Member", lmao, like "tool"? I have a member....roflmao...... sorry Phil, just struck me funny......[/quote] HAHAHAHA, ..........I certainly walked into that one! hehehe[/quote] [quote]Ummm, Phil? When looking at connotations of names, wouldn't "member" be just as suggestive as "Dick"? LOL[/quote] Well spotted Cuddles, but you didn't read on far enough, we already bin there, done that. Do try to keep up! LOL Phil.
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DavidJan 12, 2009[quote]Thanks Swifty for the comments on Baredick. I think a little more tolerance all the way around would be helpful. He's at that age now where he doesn't feel the need to conform. Not that it was intentional, but at this point, he'd keep it just to make a point. Gads, I'm only a few years away from that age, what is Jackie going to do with me then???? ack. - Jerry[/quote] I just found myself wondering something... Do you think Richard's wife would be out of line if she called herself "Dick-lover"? I know, I know, I crack myself up, too. I'll be here all week. Try the veal.
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PhilfreeeukJan 12, 2009[quote][quote]Thanks Swifty for the comments on Baredick. I think a little more tolerance all the way around would be helpful. He's at that age now where he doesn't feel the need to conform. Not that it was intentional, but at this point, he'd keep it just to make a point. Gads, I'm only a few years away from that age, what is Jackie going to do with me then???? ack. - Jerry[/quote] I just found myself wondering something... Do you think Richard's wife would be out of line if she called herself "Dick-lover"? I know, I know, I crack myself up, too. I'll be here all week. Try the veal.
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