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Summary of what Election 2012 brought us

Posted Nov 7, 2012

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ravensflyinnow
ravensflyinnowOriginal Poster
Nov 7, 2012
Obviously, the biggie was 4 more years of Obama/Biden.  Hopefully The President has learned something from this election and has found out more of what people want. Hopefully he will reach across the aisle and work with the Republicans.

Gay Marriage has 2 more states (Maine & Maryland)behind it, with another (Washington) still too close to call. Minnesota has rejected an ban on it!  On a similar note...Tammy Baldwin, defeated, 4 time governor, Tommy Thompson for a US Senate Seat, becoming the 1st elected openly gay Senator.

Death penalty repeal lost in California.

GMO labeling lost in California...thats a real shame. Monsanto and chemical companies win on that one...while everyone else loses.

Assisted suicide in MA is too close to call, but supporters have conceded

Marijuana initiatives...2 States have approved it for recreational use...COMPLETELY LEGAL!! (Washington & Colorado), but failed in Oregon

An Abortion initiative failed in Florida It would have curbed abortion right rights.

This is just a small list of wins (and losses) depending on what side of the issue you were on...Please  feel free to add to the list for your state..

Thanks for voting!


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  • ST
    Steve
    Steve
    Nov 7, 2012
    On this island, we are now represented in in the Senate by Congress's first Buddhist - Maizie Hirono - and in the house by its first Hindu, Tulsi Gabbard.

    Gabbard's story is interesting. She's an Iraq war veteran. She's of Samoan, not Indian descent; her mother was and is a devout Hindu convert. Her father is a politician who led Hawaii's anti-gay-marriage fight a few years ago. Tulsi says she had an epiphany on social issues while she was stationed in Kuwait. There, she saw a government with free rein to regulate social behavior on religious grounds, and she found it repugnant. She came to feel that the analogous thing should not be done back in the US, and now favors the social initiatives her father has opposed. (They still get along, and he supported her in her run for Congress.)
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  • RA
    ravensflyinnow
    ravensflyinnowOriginal Poster
    Nov 7, 2012
    Wasn't Mazie Lt Governor, under Ben Cayetano, a while back?

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  • ST
    Steve
    Steve
    Nov 7, 2012
    Yes, and then ran against Republican Linda Lingle for governor, and (deservedly) lost. She's been in the House since then. Hawaii voters, myself among them, were not about to risk Republican control of the Senate, so we have Senator Hirono, weak campaign aside.


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    Soupie
    Soupie
    Nov 7, 2012

    I think the whole super majority rule in the senate has to change.  Republicans will continue to vote no one any initiative by the president.  Boehner has already said so.

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  • ME
    Member
    Nov 7, 2012
    If the Senate were to go with simple majority, it would force compromise - a word lost from our recent past.
    Obama has been given a second chance to prove his policies are really working. We will see if his speech last night was sincere or just a bunch of rhetoric. For our sake, I hope it is the former.
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  • SO
    Soupie
    Soupie
    Nov 7, 2012

    We are stuck in Canada.  With the conservatives holding a majority in parliament, there is no bill that they can't shove through.  And they are doing it in huge chunks with omnibus bills.  And they are destroying the very fabric of the country.  They spent 28 million to celebrate the British win in the war of 1812, meanwhile cutting the budget for aboriginals in the same amount.

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  • ST
    Steve
    Steve
    Nov 7, 2012
    It would seem that the newly enacted restrictions on voter registration and voting - changed deadlines, document handling rules, ID requirements - have had the effect some hoped for and some feared, to discourage eligible voters from voting, and particularly, eligible voters who would have voted Democratic, among them students and the poor, who have the most difficulty meeting the new requirements.

    The flood of post-citizens-united money into unregulated negative ads has doubtless also discouraged voters.

    Low turnout is a victory for no one.
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  • RA
    ravensflyinnow
    ravensflyinnowOriginal Poster
    Nov 7, 2012
    Puerto Rico voted for statehood...51st State?
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    DesertRat
    DesertRat
    Nov 7, 2012
    I read some interesting figures on some exit polls. Three groups represented 26% of the people polled. They were Blacks who voted 93% for Obama and 6% for Romney; Latinos who voted 71% for Obama and 27% for Romney; and Asians who voted 73% for Obama and 26% for Romney.

    From this it would appear that racism is indeed alive, well and thriving in the United States.

    This article did not report the breakdown for the other 74% of the people polled. It would be interesting to know this.
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    Steve
    Steve
    Nov 7, 2012
    The white population of the United States has not voted for a Democratic candidate for president since 1964, the year the Civil Rights act was passed. Yes, racism is alive in the US. I would suggest it's our own humble demographic which is playing offense in the game, however. At the very least, we are in no position to throw accusations at others when our own pattern is so plain.

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  • BN
    Bill Nesc
    Bill Nesc
    Nov 7, 2012
    [quote]I read some interesting figures on some exit polls. Three groups represented 26% of the people polled. They were Blacks who voted 93% for Obama and 6% for Romney; Latinos who voted 71% for Obama and 27% for Romney; and Asians who voted 73% for Obama and 26% for Romney.

    From this it would appear that racism is indeed alive, well and thriving in the United States.

    This article did not report the breakdown for the other 74% of the people polled. It would be interesting to know this.[/quote]So an Asian voting for a black guy over a right guy is racist?
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  • RA
    ravensflyinnow
    ravensflyinnowOriginal Poster
    Nov 7, 2012
    [quote]I read some interesting figures on some exit polls. Three groups represented 26% of the people polled. They were Blacks who voted 93% for Obama and 6% for Romney; Latinos who voted 71% for Obama and 27% for Romney; and Asians who voted 73% for Obama and 26% for Romney.

    From this it would appear that racism is indeed alive, well and thriving in the United States.[/quote]OR...they just thought the other guy was  a douche
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  • ST
    Steve
    Steve
    Nov 7, 2012
    So I just searched TN for Puerto Rico - it's conveniently listed as a separate country in the search engine. Hi, guys. What do you think about becoming a state, now that the statehood alternative has won a popular vote? The US has for many decades been telling Puerto Rico it can determine its own destiny - join, go independent, or stay "associated." Do you think Congress will honor that, by admitting Puerto Rico as a state? Will the Puerto Rican government actually apply?
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  • NO
    None
    None
    Nov 9, 2012
    Chris Christie won't win dog catcher with the Republican party. He shot himself in the foot with the Obama Bruce Springstein love fest. 39 percent of whites voted for Obama. As far as women voting with or for their vagina like some moron from canada said. Obama got 93 percent of blacks and 70 some percent of Latinos. Who are the vast majority of unwed mothers? That might be the reason for 16 percent higher of the women vote don't you think? As long as the main stream media supports the Democrats in this country Republicans don't stand a chance. As long as Republicans stand for conservative social issues they will be fighting an uphill battle. It's not 47 percent like Romney said it is closer to 50 percent of the people pay no taxes so a Democrat has to win like 1 or 2 percent and they are a shoe in. 10 of the 12 richest counties in the US voted for Obama. The Democrats are the party of the average people then you tell me why 10 out of 12 richest counties voted Democrat? I didn't care for Romney and Obama has no clue.
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    Soupie
    Soupie
    Nov 9, 2012

    You quite possibly could be "some moron" yourself.  Don't like women much?

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