The Hate Crime of Shooting Police Officers.

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• ME

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  Jul 18, 2016

  All this goes back to liberal policies. The nanny state that tells people that they are victims. That they need government to get by. That they are not responsible for their circumstances and are incapable of building a better life.
  The greatest tragedy of the first half-black president is that he continued to divide us rather than inspiring young black men to reach higher. Race relations in this country are the worst they been since the sixties, and it's all because of the liberal strategy of divide, victimize, conquer and control. Rinse. Repeat.
  What a shame.

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  Paul

  Jul 18, 2016

  And you get some people who say been allowed to carry guns make the country safer. Thank goodness I don't live in this country.

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• ME

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  Jul 18, 2016

  [quote]And you get some people who say been allowed to carry guns make the country safer. Thank goodness I don't live in this country.[/quote]It does in this country. The statistics prove it.

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  FullSun

  Jul 18, 2016

  [quote]All this goes back to liberal policies. The nanny state that tells people that they are victims. That they need government to get by. That they are not responsible for their circumstances and are incapable of building a better life.
  The greatest tragedy of the first half-black president is that he continued to divide us rather than inspiring young black men to reach higher. Race relations in this country are the worst they been since the sixties, and it's all because of the liberal strategy of divide, victimize, conquer and control. Rinse. Repeat.
  What a shame.[/quote]All I am going say is I very much disagree with just about everything you said here regarding the causes of this sad topic.
  

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  Dario Western

  Jul 19, 2016

  [quote]There is a movement in the United States where some misguided individuals feel that it is necessary to shoot and kill our Police officers. Every right thinking person should take it upon them selves to condemn this activity and if we are presented the opportunity to personally act against it, to do so.The first thing we as good citizens can do it to always obey the orders of a duly sworn police officer. The police have a duty to preform and we we must always fully cooperate in any encounter we have with a police officer. We hire, train, equip, and pay police officers to protect us from the bad guys but we must be willing to help them in fulfilling their duties.What often happens is a call goes out that there was a convince store robbery with shots fired. A description goes out of perhaps a black or hispanic looking man, wearing kaki pants and a white Tee shirt is the subject, and he is armed. All the nearby police converge on the area looking of people who fit this description. When the see someone who matches the description they want to stop him and check him out. The officer is about ready to pee his pants because he knows the person has a gun and is willing use it. He is very cautious in approaching the suspect to check him out. Here is where a person must obey the office implicitly. You must not do anything to raise the officers suspicions or reactions. If things check out, you will be on your way and the officer will continue looking for the perp. If you have some problems with the police, they will have to do their duty, but what ever it is, it's not worth dying over.Some people may complain that this is a nudist website and it has nothing to do with police work. Well I disagree, I have several nudist friends who are police officers and I'd like to keep them around. DesertRat.
  Most Americans are misguided and dangerous.  Take away their guns and make them fight and solve problems with their BRAINS for once.I hope that Bernie Sanders will become the next President and get rid of the violence and trigger-happy types - police and civilians alike.[/quote]
  

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• ME

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  Jul 20, 2016

  You're exactly right.  When an Officer directs you to do something during the course of a traffic stop or whatever...the answer is very simple...just do it!!
  

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  Paul

  Jul 21, 2016

  Another mad yank cop. https://uk.news.yahoo.com/police-shoot-unarmed-man-hands-094600924.html

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• ME

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  Jul 21, 2016

  [quote]Just do it... sometimes that isn't good enough. Sadly there are a number of cases where the person being detained is asked for ID, reaches for the wallet and is shot for making a "furtive gesture". Police shootings drop when you make the trigger harder to pull indicating (to me) accidental shootings happen and then get blamed on suspect behavior.[/quote]This makes absolutely no sense to me. Where do you get your information?

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  renebbare

  Jul 21, 2016

  [quote][quote]And you get some people who say been allowed to carry guns make the country safer. Thank goodness I don't live in this country.[/quote]It does in this country. The statistics prove it. [/quote]The statistics prove less guns equals less gun deaths!

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  Tom === Thomas S. Tierney

  Jul 21, 2016

  [quote][quote]Just do it... sometimes that isn't good enough. Sadly there are a number of cases where the person being detained is asked for ID, reaches for the wallet and is shot for making a "furtive gesture". Police shootings drop when you make the trigger harder to pull indicating (to me) accidental shootings happen and then get blamed on suspect behavior.[/quote]This makes absolutely no sense to me. Where do you get your information?[/quote]What is he saying?  "trigger harder to pull" ?????
  

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• ME

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  Jul 22, 2016

  [quote][quote][quote]And you get some people who say been allowed to carry guns make the country safer. Thank goodness I don't live in this country.[/quote]It does in this country. The statistics prove it. [/quote]The statistics prove less guns equals less gun deaths![/quote]No, they don't. Just the opposite. More gun restrictions=less law abiding citizens with guns=more criminals with guns=more gun deaths.

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  FullSun

  Jul 22, 2016

  [quote] [quote] [quote] [quote]And you get some people who say been allowed to carry guns make the country safer. Thank goodness I don't live in this country.[/quote] It does in this country. The statistics prove it. [/quote] The statistics prove less guns equals less gun deaths![/quote] No, they don't. Just the opposite. More gun restrictions=less law abiding citizens with guns=more criminals with guns=more gun deaths. [/quote] Take a look at Europe where there are tighter restrictions and fewer guns and there are fewer shootings.   Not trying to say the terrorist acts etc don't exist, they do, but a guy on the street with a gun is only going to get himself killed in those situations.
  

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  Paul

  Jul 22, 2016

  [quote] [quote] [quote] [quote] [quote]And you get some people who say been allowed to carry guns make the country safer. Thank goodness I don't live in this country.[/quote] It does in this country. The statistics prove it. [/quote] The statistics prove less guns equals less gun deaths![/quote] No, they don't. Just the opposite. More gun restrictions=less law abiding citizens with guns=more criminals with guns=more gun deaths. [/quote] Take a look at Europe where there are tighter restrictions and fewer guns and there are fewer shootings.   Not trying to say the terrorist acts etc don't exist, they do, but a guy on the street with a gun is only going to get himself killed in those situations.
  [/quote]Per 100,000 population killed with a firearm USA in 2014 10.54, UK 2011 0.23 Canada mixed years 1.97 even countries like Mexico over mixed years is 7.64. Europe on average will be about 1.50.
  
  So how can people say the USA is a safer country with the free for all gun culture. Yes a lot of the USA ones are people taking their own lives with them but that also shows what people think about living in the USA. with the USA 6.69 against UK 0.06 per 100.000

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  Paul

  Jul 22, 2016

  [quote]First, take Chicago, New York, LA out of the stats, they reverse. Why, those three cities are gun free, so, only bad guys get the guns. When you remove thegun-freecities, our standing in gun deaths is very, very low.Our problem our politicians and judges that are spineless and worthless.
  [/quote]If in the UK places like London was taken out ours would go right down as well, and all countries did that just leaving areas where now-one was killed with a gun, there would be fingers showing nobody in the world was killed with a gun.

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• ME

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  Jul 22, 2016

  [quote] [quote] [quote] [quote] [quote]And you get some people who say been allowed to carry guns make the country safer. Thank goodness I don't live in this country.[/quote] It does in this country. The statistics prove it. [/quote] The statistics prove less guns equals less gun deaths![/quote] No, they don't. Just the opposite. More gun restrictions=less law abiding citizens with guns=more criminals with guns=more gun deaths. [/quote] Take a look at Europe where there are tighter restrictions and fewer guns and there are fewer shootings.   Not trying to say the terrorist acts etc don't exist, they do, but a guy on the street with a gun is only going to get himself killed in those situations.
  [/quote]In the eight years following the UK's gun ban, homicide rates increased 50%, and didn't go down to the pre-ban rates until after the government increased the number of police by 18%.
  Where was the killing on the street where a couple of terrorists with guns walked up to a cop and shot him at point blank range? Was that Britain or France? I don't remember. But if that guy had a gun, he would have survived. A guy on the street with a gun, who obeys the law is going to be safer in those situations.
  Take a look at Europe-they're being over run with terrorists. What do you think would happen if the terrorists tried that in Texas or Arizona?

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  macnude

  Jul 23, 2016

  I feel that the real crime, here. Is that society has created a situation in which the public is afraid of the police and the police are afraid of the public. Our law enforcement officers are on the front lines, so to speak, every time they make a routine traffic stop or answer a call regarding a domestic disturbance. The stress of constant danger can cause anyone to react badly and not in accordance with their training.  I have no doubt that many law enforcement officers have a basic prejudice towards blacks and Latinos. Throughout the years, I have heard many using the "N" word, thinking that I would not find it offensive. They were wrong!  The very best of the officers can be influenced  by their peers.
  Police carry guns for their own self protection as well as the protection of the public at large and must be accountable for their use. Carrying a firearm is an awesome responsibility. The use of that firearm must be within the law and only in extreme circumstance.
  So, there is a problem but is there a solution? Without mutual respect between the public and the police, the situation is likely to escalate. If young blacks think it is cool to look and act like a gang banger, they may be the next victim of a " bad shoot".  Fortunately, to date, we have not heard  reports  of an unarmed  black man wearing a business suit and sporting a nice haircut falling victim..
  We all have a basic mistrust of those who are not like us. We whites do not expect the young blacks to look and act like us, however, there are essential standards of conduct that allow us to all get along .The young blacks would do well to pull up their pants, lose the dregs and dew rags and show respect for themselves and society. This respect must be instilled early in the home and in the schools.
  .. Conversely, I feel that increased and ongoing sensitivity training is necessary within the law enforcement agencies with emphasis on the fact that the vast majority of blacks are law abiding citizens and deserve equal protection under the law. Lastly, I feel that all violent crime should be prosecuted  to the fullest extent of the law and that the “Black Lives Matter" movement should be reorganized under the banner " All Lives Matter".
  

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• ME

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  Jul 23, 2016

  [quote] I feel that the real crime, here. Is that society has created a situation in which the public is afraid of the police and the police are afraid of the public. Our law enforcement officers are on the front lines, so to speak, every time they make a routine traffic stop or answer a call regarding a domestic disturbance. The stress of constant danger can cause anyone to react badly and not in accordance with their training.  I have no doubt that many law enforcement officers have a basic prejudice towards blacks and Latinos. Throughout the years, I have heard many using the "N" word, thinking that I would not find it offensive. They were wrong!  The very best of the officers can be influenced  by their peers.
  Police carry guns for their own self protection as well as the protection of the public at large and must be accountable for their use. Carrying a firearm is an awesome responsibility. The use of that firearm must be within the law and only in extreme circumstance.
  So, there is a problem but is there a solution? Without mutual respect between the public and the police, the situation is likely to escalate. If young blacks think it is cool to look and act like a gang banger, they may be the next victim of a " bad shoot".  Fortunately, to date, we have not heard  reports  of an unarmed  black man wearing a business suit and sporting a nice haircut falling victim..
  We all have a basic mistrust of those who are not like us. We whites do not expect the young blacks to look and act like us, however, there are essential standards of conduct that allow us to all get along .The young blacks would do well to pull up their pants, lose the dregs and dew rags and show respect for themselves and society. This respect must be instilled early in the home and in the schools.
  .. Conversely, I feel that increased and ongoing sensitivity training is necessary within the law enforcement agencies with emphasis on the fact that the vast majority of blacks are law abiding citizens and deserve equal protection under the law. Lastly, I feel that all violent crime should be prosecuted  to the fullest extent of the law and that the “Black Lives Matter" movement should be reorganized under the banner " All Lives Matter".
  [/quote]The problem is not bigotry by police.
  The problem is the bigotry that comes from the black leaders-BLM, The New Black Panther Party, The left leaning people in the media and in politics-Obama-Sharpton and more. The whole "Hands up-don't shoot" is based on a lie, but those leaders, rather than calling on young blacks to live responsible lives, they stir anger and resentment; and that is where the problem is born.

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  Rob

  Jul 24, 2016

  [quote] [quote]I feel that the real crime, here. Is that society has created a situation in which the public is afraid of the police and the police are afraid of the public. Our law enforcement officers are on the front lines, so to speak, every time they make a routine traffic stop or answer a call regarding a domestic disturbance. The stress of constant danger can cause anyone to react badly and not in accordance with their training.  I have no doubt that many law enforcement officers have a basic prejudice towards blacks and Latinos. Throughout the years, I have heard many using the "N" word, thinking that I would not find it offensive. They were wrong!  The very best of the officers can be influenced  by their peers.
  Police carry guns for their own self protection as well as the protection of the public at large and must be accountable for their use. Carrying a firearm is an awesome responsibility. The use of that firearm must be within the law and only in extreme circumstance.
  So, there is a problem but is there a solution? Without mutual respect between the public and the police, the situation is likely to escalate. If young blacks think it is cool to look and act like a gang banger, they may be the next victim of a " bad shoot".  Fortunately, to date, we have not heard  reports  of an unarmed  black man wearing a business suit and sporting a nice haircut falling victim..
  We all have a basic mistrust of those who are not like us. We whites do not expect the young blacks to look and act like us, however, there are essential standards of conduct that allow us to all get along .The young blacks would do well to pull up their pants, lose the dregs and dew rags and show respect for themselves and society. This respect must be instilled early in the home and in the schools.
  .. Conversely, I feel that increased and ongoing sensitivity training is necessary within the law enforcement agencies with emphasis on the fact that the vast majority of blacks are law abiding citizens and deserve equal protection under the law. Lastly, I feel that all violent crime should be prosecuted  to the fullest extent of the law and that the “Black Lives Matter" movement should be reorganized under the banner " All Lives Matter.
  [/quote] The problem is not bigotry by police.
  The problem is the bigotry that comes from the black leaders-BLM, The New Black Panther Party, The left leaning people in the media and in politics-Obama-Sharpton and more. The whole "Hands up-don't shoot" is based on a lie, but those leaders, rather than calling on young blacks to live responsible lives, they stir anger and resentment; and that is where the problem is born. [/quote]
  utter BS, you can't see anything beyond your red colored lenses.
  

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  macnude

  Jul 24, 2016

  "The problem is not bigotry by police.
  The problem is the bigotry that comes from the black leaders-BLM, The New Black Panther Party, The left leaning people in the media and in politics-Obama-Sharpton and more. The whole Hands up-don't shoot is based on a lie, but those leaders, rather than calling on young blacks to live responsible lives, they stir anger and resentment; and that is where the problem is born."
  
  
  
  Let us not deny that there is some bigotry within the law enforcement ranks. Instead let us applaud the many officers who are true professionals, who  treat everyone equally under the law, and bring  truth to the  slogan " Serve and Protect" i spite of their own ingrained prejudices. Certainly, let us applaud  the many , many officers who preform their duty without the weight of these ingrained  prejudices. All officers should have our support and respect but must earn that respect by deed and action. Those that do not should be weeded from the ranks.
  
  Let us also applaud a society which has elected a black president, twice. Civil rights laws have made fantastic strides during my lifetime but the spirit of equality still lags behind. These are trying times for the Country and the world. It is time that we come together to solve these problems , not create new ones.
  While there are many things  that we can applaud let us condemn the leaders and organizations who would advocate chaos and lawlessness to advance their own political aims. There are many black leaders who are wonderful role models and deserve the respect of all society. Unfortunately, it is loud and derisive rhetoric , that captures the attention of the media.
  
  
  
  

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  Brett Rapley

  Sep 8, 2016

  [quote]There is a movement in the United States where some misguided individuals feel that it is necessary to shoot and kill our Police officers. Every right thinking person should take it upon them selves to condemn this activity and if we are presented the opportunity to personally act against it, to do so.The first thing we as good citizens can do it to always obey the orders of a duly sworn police officer. The police have a duty to preform and we we must always fully cooperate in any encounter we have with a police officer. We hire, train, equip, and pay police officers to protect us from the bad guys but we must be willing to help them in fulfilling their duties.What often happens is a call goes out that there was a convince store robbery with shots fired. A description goes out of perhaps a black or hispanic looking man, wearing kaki pants and a white Tee shirt is the subject, and he is armed. All the nearby police converge on the area looking of people who fit this description. When the see someone who matches the description they want to stop him and check him out. The officer is about ready to pee his pants because he knows the person has a gun and is willing use it. He is very cautious in approaching the suspect to check him out. Here is where a person must obey the office implicitly. You must not do anything to raise the officers suspicions or reactions. If things check out, you will be on your way and the officer will continue looking for the perp. If you have some problems with the police, they will have to do their duty, but what ever it is, it's not worth dying over.Some people may complain that this is a nudist website and it has nothing to do with police work. Well I disagree, I have several nudist friends who are police officers and I'd like to keep them around. DesertRat.[/quote]No dis-respect, but you  need to take a closer look at what your American cops are doing these days.  Try having a look at The Free Thought Project, this is online and then tell me what you have stated above is all well and true.  American cops are far too trigger happy, half the time, they don't even give you the chance to do what they ask before bouncing all over you and kicking the shit out of you.
  You might not like my comments to this post, but, I am not a stupid person and realise that there are some good cops out there, but there are a lot of bad ones too.  The attitude of American cops is that you should show them respect because they wear a uniform...Bollocks to that !  Respect is earned, not expected.  Cops are also paid for by the people of the city or community in which they live, they are PUBLIC SERVANTS.
  AS for them having what is called their Blue Privilege, that is the biggest load of crap going, if a cop has murdered someone, then they should be tried and processed like everyone else, not be allowed to get away with it because they are a cop !  All this "I feared for my life/safety", bullshit, they are the ones with a gun.  I hear that bollocks far too often for them to justify killing someone.

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  Rob

  Sep 8, 2016

  [quote]All this goes back to liberal policies. The nanny state that tells people that they are victims. That they need government to get by. That they are not responsible for their circumstances and are incapable of building a better life.
  The greatest tragedy of the first half-black president is that he continued to divide us rather than inspiring young black men to reach higher. Race relations in this country are the worst they been since the sixties, and it's all because of the liberal strategy of divide, victimize, conquer and control. Rinse. Repeat.
  What a shame.[/quote] utter BS
  

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  ManOfWicklow

  Sep 8, 2016

  [quote]>The problem is not bigotry by police.
  The problem is the bigotry that comes from the black leaders-BLM, The New Black Panther Party, The left leaning people in the media and in politics-Obama-Sharpton and more. The whole "Hands up-don't shoot" is based on a lie, but those leaders, rather than calling on young blacks to live responsible lives, they stir anger and resentment; and that is where the problem is born. [/quote]Well said, Brucie, but there will still be some stubborn and naive people too blind to see the truth,
  
  

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