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- MEMemberJul 4, 2011
Although I think his methods are a little out of line, I do hope he is sucessful in winning his court case.
The effects of him appearing nude have been SO overblown as to be laughable. The man went through a drivethrough nude.....I hardly think the girl at the window is traumatized and requiring therapy, as the crown council has asserted.
Maybe this guy should have tried this in a somewhat less public location though. Judging by the comments following the news article, it seems the general conservative public is opposed to seeing him in all his glory.
Right message, wrong location, but I still hope he is successful in his trial!ReactReply - CA
CabotCheeseJul 4, 2011Sounds like he makes this a habit, here's a snipet from the first article. [quote]This is far from Coldin’s first run-in with the law. By his own count, he’s been detained by police more than 200 times. In the early 2000s, he was charged numerous times with various offences, but all were dropped or cleared.[/quote]ReactReply - CH
chinesenudeJul 5, 2011It is great that some people are trying to push the boundaries, but I just hope it will not backfire. Right now, our clothing optional beach in Toronto is quite under-utilized. I went there thrice since June, including once on Canada Day and this past Sunday, and each time the crowd is filled with clothed people. In fact, over 80% of the crowd is clothed, very very clothed, on Canada Day. I was a little appalled. Seems like it is no longer clothing optional, but rather clothing mandatory.
ReactReply - TOtorasiiOriginal PosterJul 9, 2011
"A date for the verdict will be set on Sept. 28." so it'll be a while before we know for sure.
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gabareJul 10, 2011i sure many of us would like to do the same thing for the nudist cause but most places it's beyond a slap on the wrist or minor fine and can actually become a felony and list you as a sexual predator, how did they get to the point where mere nudity makes a person a sexual predator. but than again look at these idiots covering nude statues in public places that have been there for years if not decades. we have lost something especially in the good ole USA everything equates to sex but in hollywood sex sales but don't take it beyond hollywood. i hope he wins in canada and canada wins in the long run.
ReactReply - MEMemberJul 10, 2011
Although I am not sure of his, and his friends motives, I once on a dare from my wife years ago, drove to Tim Hortons nude. I was in a SUV so seeing anything would have been difficult, but my motive was not to be seen but to drive there naked and back. I believe that these guys had the intent of being seen, and specifically made it difficult to even purchase the food. fumbling around for money, three seperate orders paid seperately. IMHO these guys were trying to be seen, and trying to make a statement, not just out enjoying a drive in the buff.
I hope this does help to loosen our laws abit, but I fear this could also go the other way and make them more restrictive, an awful chance to take. The lady in 1996 had nothing to lose, and changed the way things can be treated, I hope the right people with an open and honest frame of mind make the right decision.ReactReply - CA
CanoodlerJul 10, 2011I have met and spoken to this guy. He is pretty cool actually but very adamant about being free to be nude. If I were him, I would have stayed outside...I couldn't tell from the one article I read if he actually walked indoors. And it's a bit unfair to appear nude in front of one person in the drive-thru. That's rather contentious and could be threatening. Better to be relaxed and non-threatening and just take your shorts off in the quiet part of a park with some friends. Or walk the main street so no single person feels threatened. Whatever, I hope things go well for us. I just don't think I would have done it this way.
ReactReply - CACanoodlerJul 10, 2011
I have met and spoken to this guy. He is pretty cool actually but very adamant about being free to be nude. If I were him, I would have stayed outside...I couldn't tell from the one article I read if he actually walked indoors. And it's a bit unfair to appear nude in front of one person in the drive-thru. That's rather contentious and could be threatening. Better to be relaxed and non-threatening and just take your shorts off in the quiet part of a park with some friends. Or walk the main street so no single person feels threatened. Whatever, I hope things go well for us. I just don't think I would have done it this way.
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dicemanJul 10, 2011[quote]I just posted a comment under the article in the Toronto Sun (bottom one of your 3 links) - just waiting for moderator approval. I couldn't believe how hostile all the other comments were towards the guy. It was probably a silly thing to do - pushing the envelope, as you say. But at the end of the day, he was just naked, for goodness sake! Yet those who posted comments make him out to be a sick exhibitionist whose sole intention is to wave his willy in front of children! Nowhere in the story does it even hint at that possibility! So much for the imaginative Canadian mind![/quote] It's not just Canadian minds. I think this is how it would be almost anywhere in the world where people are "governed". I hope it all ends well for nudists, and the defendant. It's possible it will undo a lot of forward movement. On the other hand, we can't forget...Nothing ventured - Nothing gained.ReactReply - MEMemberJul 15, 2011
Yes, I agree with you, a response to one ariticle was so ignorant in that it even suggested that public nudity is wrong because "wwho would want to see fat ugly chicks". People like that are out there, so ignorant as to think thier standard of what looks good should be the standard, reminds me of an attitude back in the late 1930's Germany. Unfortunately there are people who create standards and perceptions and force them on others, nudity is a societal issue that seems to prevent logical thought to the insecure and uneducated society that we live in.
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RedGaterJul 16, 2011At first I shook my head at the brazen tactic chosen by this man. Her could ruin any chance of acceptance for us fellow nudists. But then, wasn't it outward brazen acts like two men kissing in public that brought about acceptance of same-sex marriages in Canada? Sure, not everyone "accepts" them as legitimate couples, BUT the law does!
Here is to hoping that the law will soon accept me as well.
ReactReply - CACanoodlerJul 18, 2011
Well said, Princedale.
I have heard that line and read it in so many places..."why would we want to see some old guy shaking his willy?" Nobody suggests you do! But they don't seem to consider the followthrough of that train of thought. "Why would we want to see that burn victim at the beach?" "Why would that fat lady be allowed to sunbathe?" "Why would that kid with the cleft pallet even try to make friends?" It's sick that they can't see the fallacy of their own logic. Apparently, anything they deem to be icky should be banned with extreme prejudice! The whole point seems to be that seeing something ugly or surprising or even shocking is somehow terrible. Actually, it is what real life has in store for us all. Why would we want to protect ourselves from those things that make life interesting and give us something worthwhile to discuss? Homogenize the masses and no one will ever have anything with which to complain. Sigh...what a boring world that would be.ReactReply - MEMemberAug 6, 2011
Anyone have any updates to this story?
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westheathenAug 7, 2011From what I remember it was postponed untill September, but I may be wrong.
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rusty62Aug 7, 2011[quote]A nudist who runs a clothing optional resort has run into legal trouble for being naked outside of his site, especially in a coffee shop. Can't really tell from the media reports if he is just pushing the envelope or is it for gratification. Anyway, if he wins I think it's a good day for Canadian nudists.http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/article/866600--naturist-fights-for-right-to-be-nakedhttp://www.vancouversun.com/news/accused+making+naked+trips+Hortons+challenge+nudity+laws/5048171/story.htmlhttp://www.torontosun.com/2011/07/04/ontario-man-fights-canadas-nudity-laws[/quote] This was a subject raised at the AANRWC AGM last weekend. My own opinion is he was in to it over his head to even think about going through fast food places nude. I do nude only where folks are ok with nude, I'm do not do anything that remotely resembles exibitionisim simple - it is against the law in Canada and most other places in the world it will get you listed as a sex offender. Good as it gets. Brian Coldin is obviously not a flasher or a pervert however if his actions were legalized what about the next carload of nude idiots who can then flash as they party on throught the food pickup? I will not be a supporting AANR member of his case.ReactReply - HU
HUDSONHORNETNov 4, 2011[quote]I just posted a comment under the article in the Toronto Sun (bottom one of your 3 links) - just waiting for moderator approval. I couldn't believe how hostile all the other comments were towards the guy. It was probably a silly thing to do - pushing the envelope, as you say. But at the end of the day, he was just naked, for goodness sake! Yet those who posted comments make him out to be a sick exhibitionist whose sole intention is to wave his willy in front of children! Nowhere in the story does it even hint at that possibility! So much for the imaginative Canadian mind![/quote] Toronto Sun is not much better than the Edmonton Sun. If the Court rules in his favour, I can't wait to read the comments in the Edmonton Sun! Should make for interesting reading on a COLD January Day! The Court has to mull over a VERY large report by a professional and that is why it has been postponed till Jan 2012ReactReply - HUHUDSONHORNETNov 4, 2011[quote]From what I remember it was postponed untill September, but I may be wrong.[/quote]Postponed until January 2012. Court has to mull over a Large Report by a Professional.ReactReply
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CanbaresNov 6, 2011[url=http://www.cottagecountrynow.ca/news/article/1219962--public-nudity-trial-decision-set-for-january-in-bracebridge][/url]"Public nudity trial decision set for January in Bracebridge
The final ruling in local resort owner Brian Coldins public nudity trial has been set for January 2012 in Bracebridge. Judge J.J. Douglas spoke to the matter briefly Sept. 28 in a Barrie court. Judge Douglas has set the ruling for Jan. 12 in Bracebridge, allowing the court enough time to filter through copious amounts of documentation and the arguments. Coldins case has garnered national attention. He was charged with public nudity after police say he appeared naked at several places in the vicinity of High Falls Resort, as well as at the drive-thrus of Tim Hortons and A&W in Bracebridge. Coldin is being defended by noted lawyer and Order of Canada recipient Clayton Ruby and fellow defence lawyer Nader Hasan. The team is arguing that the nudity laws under which Coldin is charged are overly broad and unconstitutional. Crown attorney Zachary Green is arguing the laws on nudity were drafted by Parliament in an effort to allow people to be in public places without the fear of being confronted by others in the nude. During trial proceedings in July, Green argued that Coldins excursions to local fast-food restaurants left witnesses shocked and upset. Green also argued Coldin can practise naturism at his 30-acre resort, but added there was no legal excuse to do so off his property. Coldin could face up to six months in jail if convicted."
The above was reported in CottageCountryNow.ca
http://www.cottagecountrynow.ca/news/article/1219962--public-nudity-trial-decision-set-for-january-in-bracebridge
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