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Card carrying Nudist

Posted Mar 25, 2012

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Bob
BobOriginal Poster
Mar 25, 2012
At times I think we may be well off to have some national certification process that results in a card that can serve to show our mind set with Nudism, something along the lines of the NRA. I have four bars on my sharpshooter certification. [I just checked the NRAHQ.org site and most of the certifications can be self-administered, lots of room for lying. I received mine in a gun club with all the structure of a fully sanctioned Karate Dojo.]


The only issue I have is where would we carry it?


Bob
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  • CD
    Cheri Donna Dawson
    Cheri Donna Dawson
    Mar 26, 2012
    Bob,  Folklover gave you most of the organizations.   If you live in NJ, there are several clubs (landed & nonlanded including Friends of Gunnison Beach - Sandy Hook) through which you can obtain not only local membership but AANR and/or TNS.

    When you join one of the national organization, you give the clubs support of our way of living.    You can join directly with the nationals, but it's less expensive to join through a club.  I've been a member of TNS ([a href="http://www.naturistsociety.com">www.naturistsociety.com[/a]) and AANR ([a href="http://www.aanr.com">www.aanr.com[/a]) since 1987.
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    jaybirds
    jaybirds
    Mar 26, 2012
    For nearly 10 years, our non-landed club, the Southern California Naturist Association, screens all prospective members thru the Megan's Law Sex Offender, and felony offender, data bases. Over 5 years ago we suggested to both national organizations, AANR & TNS, that they should do the same. TNS immediately agreed, and screens all their members. To dateAANR does notscreen members on a national basis, prefering to leave it up to individual clubs. What this means is that any sex offender can send in his money to the national office and get an AANR membership that will help admit him into any club that does not screen. It's time that all nudists who care, contact their local AANR representative, and DEMAND that the national office start screening existing and prospective members.
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    Cheri Donna Dawson
    Cheri Donna Dawson
    Mar 26, 2012
    [quote]For nearly 10 years, our non-landed club, the Southern California Naturist Association, screens all prospective members thru the Megan's Law Sex Offender, and felony offender, data bases. Over 5 years ago we suggested to both national organizations, AANR & TNS, that they should do the same. TNS immediately agreed, and screens all their members. To dateAANR does notscreen members on a national basis, prefering to leave it up to individual clubs. What this means is that any sex offender can send in his money to the national office and get an AANR membership that will help admit him into any club that does not screen. It's time that all nudists who care, contact their local AANR representative, and DEMAND that the national office start screening existing and prospective members.[/quote]Travelites does that with anyone applying for membership.   Each state has its own registry.
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    Bob
    BobOriginal Poster
    Mar 26, 2012
    It looks like everyone is thinking the same way I was.

    I will try to keep in mind the screening process when I get to talk to a club.

    Thanks,
    Bob
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    Bob
    Bob
    Apr 2, 2018

    Nice to meet another NRA member. As a nudist, never mind the card, I'm trying to figure out how to carry my pistol. LOL

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    Paul
    Paul
    Apr 4, 2018

    Agreed. Nice to talk to fellow NRA members here.

    The TNS and AANR membership cards could serve the purpose well. I used to keep my AANR card in my wallet, just in case. However, I stopped doing that for some reason. Maybe time to do that again.

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    Curt
    Curt
    Apr 4, 2018

    The NRA advocates for the killing of innocent people. You should be ashamed. Nudists don't need to carry a card, what they're not wearing says it all.

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  • BB
    Bill Bowser
    Bill Bowser
    Apr 4, 2018

    I think youre confusing the NRA with Planned Parenthood. Thats what happens when you listen to the main stream news media.

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  • NU
    nudeyooper
    Apr 4, 2018

    I'm not a gun owner and never plan on owning one, but live in an area that is home to many hunters. We also have little need to defend ourselves, but I agree very much that it is not the gun that is the problem with the recent shootings. Guns have been much easier to obtain in the past, yet the frequency of shootings was considerably less. Passing restrictive gun laws has not prevented tragedy, and passing more likely will not prevent future deaths. For some reason we have a culture in the country that typically wants to treat symptoms rather than the disease. I'm not sure what the root cause of the violence is, but I really believe that we as a community must work to identify that cause and then enact means to eliminate it.

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    Bill Bowser
    Bill Bowser
    Apr 5, 2018

    Regarding the school shootings, it seems to me that we need to figure out why people choose to do this and then remove the incentive, whatever it is, so it wont be so attractive to them. More gun laws obviously isnt the answer. Its already against the law to shoot people.

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    Pete
    Pete
    Apr 5, 2018

    Schools, theaters, churches, and any other gun free zone is a soft target. In reality most bad guys are cowards and if there is a reasonable chance they may face an armed defender many times that is enough to keep them at bay. Gun laws: Enforce ALL gun laws already on the books to the fullest extent and there will be sufficient common sense gun control. Will it stop all shootings NO, nothing humans devise will ever stop all shootings, that includes as the liberal media wants is take the guns. Then we as law abiding citizens will absolutely have no self defense against the bad guy that still has their illegal weapon.

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  • NU
    nudeyooper
    Apr 5, 2018
    [quote]Lee: read what i wrote : no one has EVER wanted to take your toys away : but do you really want people such as me and my friend buying guns ? if you do .......your nuts ........ all we want is COMMON SENSE some one on this thread said that we need to get to the "root cause "of the gun violence !! ok lets get to the nut cutting truth the REAL problem is LACK of parenting . when i was growing up if a kid did something wrong they got their butts whipped , to teach us that when we screw up there are consequences, our parents did NOT make excuses for us , our parents held us kids accountable for our own actions they whipped our butts to TEACH us , NOT to be mean . now a days parents shout at their kids and expect them to learn from it ..how is that working ? a good ass whipping NEVER hurt any kid. but it does make responsible adults out of them !!![/quote] I was the one who suggested that we find the root cause for the violence, and lack of parenting can certainly be one of those causes. However, because individuals harm other individuals there can be no "one size fits all" cure. Our culture of hate seems to be increasing and hate is something that is taught. It could be that parenting is more harmful than the lack of it.
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    Bob
    Bob
    Apr 5, 2018
    [quote]Lee : sorry but they are TOYS and guys that love them are like children " my toy is bigger than your toy , i have more toys than you do thats the philosophy of gun nuts its not the guns we are afraid of , its the IDIOTS that own them that scare the hell out of people its kinda like saying that the answer to the drug problem is more drugs !!!!..... are you people REALLY that stupid ?[/quote] Certainly not toys. I am an FFL holder and Class 3 dealer and manufacturer. I deal with everything from antique revolvers to heavy machine guns. Some are curios and collectibles, and I agree that they may no longer have tactical or practical application; but the rest of the inventory all have purposes to serve. Yes, there are some competition events and sporting uses for different classes of firearms, but they also serve a variety of purposes as TOOLS, not toys. I don't care what kind, type, size, or quantity anyone else has -- I own my tools chosen for my confidence and comfort in their use based on my perceived potential of requirement. I have carried a handgun every day for 30 years; I pray every day when I put it on that this not be the day that I need it -- I also hope today is not the day I need the fire extinguisher in my kitchen, or have to make a claim on my children's' life insurance policy. These things are serious. And I know, work with, socialize with people from a broad spectrum of political, spiritual, and lifestyle mindsets from far Left to far Right, none of them are "scared of the idiot".
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    Mcdcvs
    Mcdcvs
    Apr 6, 2018

    I think that part of our issue is the name calling during a disagreement. We should be able to disagree without calling names or belittling the others point of view..

    My thought is that there may be a correlation between insurances companies dropping mental health from policies I think sometime in the 80's and the rise in the reporting of gun violence.

    A gun is a more efficient killing tool. Men have used tools to kill other men from the beginning of time. From rocks thrown by hand then slung with sling shouts because someone figured out that if you put a rock in a sling, you could throw it farther and harder. Soon men started sharpening rocks into weapons. Fast forward to gun powder and the gun.

    All of these tools were invented by people trying to kill things more efficiently. Not a governing body. Legislation can be written to limit the type of weapon a person can own but in the end, people will invent a way to modify what is already available of fashion their own tool.

    The Revolutionary war was a treasonous action by the people of the British Colonies. If only the British army had guns and canons, then the war may have had a different ending. I believe the nations founders understood that the people of the new nation should have the ability to rise up against a tyrannous government and be able to have the same tools that they have in order to keep them from forcing laws on the people that were not agreeable. This was tested in the War Between the States. After that war. The american government did not tell the confederates that they could never own a gun again. They sent them home without them and they made more.

    Yes for some their guns can be considered Toys that they use for sport but for the Law Officer, for the Service person and for other that use their weapons in the course of work, it is a Tool. The owner of Big Daddy's BBQ categorizes his grill as a tool. My trucks are tools that I use for business. I do have a car that I would categorize as a toy but its use is not essential to my business.

    I hope that we can agree to disagree on some issues without the name calling and that we can focus on the things that we agree on like the joys of social nudity.

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    David
    David
    Apr 6, 2018
    " I hope that we can agree to disagree on some issues without the name calling and that we can focus on the things that we agree on like the joys of social nudity."

    I think this is the best part of any post in the entire thread. Problems never get solved, they only get escalated when we show no respect for each other. We're all people with very different backgrounds and opinions, but it does not mean we cannot respect each other.

    Thank you for introducing some sanity to the discussion.
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  • NU
    nudeyooper
    Apr 6, 2018
    [quote] , I HAVE OWNED HAND GUNS ALL OF MY LIFE , BUT DO HAVE COMMON SENSE[/quote] Unfortunately, Common Sense is not all that common, and everyone has their own interpretation of what good sense is. I fully believe that gun ownership is not the real issue. It is how we relate to one another. I see bullying as a big issue and probably the cause of some of the violence, but where does the attitude originate? We have a natural instinct toward self preservation, but somewhere in personal history it has been learned, correctly or not, that is OK to bring harm to another person. It has been going on for thousands of years, but it is only recently that I has been easy to make it widely known.
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  • ME
    Member
    Apr 6, 2018

    The idea of spending time naked among a group of like-minded adults is the opposite of the idea that I need a card with a name attached to some kind of accountability. These are opposites in my mind. I am into nudism because it separates me from such identification. That's the attraction. Plus the sunshine.

    Put up a table at a nude resort on some Saturday and see if you get enough signatures to fill a Post-It note.

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  • NU
    nudeyooper
    Apr 7, 2018

    We certainly don't need a membership card to be nudists, but it would be nice if we had someone to lobby for us.

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    Tom
    Tom
    Apr 7, 2018

    Quite frankly, I wouldn't have anywhere to keep the card!

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    Bob
    BobOriginal Poster
    Apr 12, 2018

    I made the original post shortly after joining the site and had not yet learned much of our hidden society. The rationale behind my post was to have some way to prove we were real nudists, not perverts, creeps, voyeurs or exhibitionists.

    The analogy to the NRA was to show that the ranking was earned and recognized. Our NRA training was about 80% safety and 20% proficiency. None of us over the past 50+ years have gone around shooting people. All of us think that a machine gun is a total waste of ammunition. I can pick off flies at 50 feet using a peep sight, not a scope. I own a single shot target rifle. I maintain my skills using a camera.

    Bob

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    Christopher
    Christopher
    Apr 12, 2018
    [quote]We certainly don't need a membership card to be nudists, but it would be nice if we had someone to lobby for us.[/quote] We do have organizations that lobby for us, both AANR and TNS lobby in addition to their other services. And guess what? They also issue membership cards.
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    85springer
    85springer
    Jul 20, 2018

    While the purposes for gun ownership that you mentioned are valid, they were not what inspired the 2nd Amendment. King George's tyranical reign showed the founding fathers that the populace needed arms to protect itself from that tyrrany. Today's version of King George is the Left with names like Soros, Schummer, Clinton, Waters, & Obama.

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    nudony
    nudony
    Jul 20, 2018

    The last I read or heard...it wasn't the "left" shooting up churches, schools or running over protestors with cars.

    Put the Kool-Aid down. It's bad for your brain.

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    Berky
    Berky
    Jul 20, 2018

    This has been echoed elsewhere but like most everything else I do that's classified out of the "mainstream" you generally don't bring it up in casual conversation.Even within the Church its a touchy subject. I generally don't wear what I enjoy or what I believe in or do on my proverbial sleeve. That's not how I roll. I'm actually dropping my membership in many things I used to support mainly because my money can be better used elsewhere. :)

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