I am not a newbie to nude beaches, I enjoy them immensely in Florida.
But I am new to nudist resorts and more confined areas as such.
Does anyone in Southwest Michigan or Northern Indiana have any input on Lake o' the Woods in Valparaiso? I wouldn't mind trying that. I would like to try kayaking there and some sunbathing.
Not looking for a relationship, but I wouldn't mind someone to join me, male or female doesn't matter. I am 45m in relatively decent shape, probably look a little younger.
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SteveJul 18, 2024I have heard good things about that resort. I frequent one farther south in Centerville IN called Sunshower. Valparaiso is a little far for me so havent actually been Ive only heard it was a nice place.
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Stone AndyJul 18, 2024I've heard good things about it, but had a negative personal experience. I called them when my kids were small to inquire going there as a single dad family and was told I'd need to bring their birth certificates and some kind of affidavit from their birth mother in order to bring them in. I consider this either heavy-handed or discriminatory and imagine I could have sued them. Their policy disrespects my legal right as I was granted full legal rights in my joint parenting agreement to do activities without their mother's permission. Therefore, I did not go and do not feel welcome. Good luck.
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MikeJul 18, 2024I go several times a year. Its a really nice club. The the lake is clean and nice for a swim, as is the pool or hot tub. Lots to do.
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HenryJul 19, 2024Wife and I love Lake Of the Woods Club. I love to do naked stand up paddle boarding. And we like the hiking trail even though there are 2 areas that you should cover up. But they are short so it is no big deal. We have always meet friendly people there. Our only issue is we wish they had a better RV area.
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nudonyJul 19, 2024One thing prospective visitors should know is that LOTW is nude-obligatory. And it's readily apparent when you first walk in and see that everyone is naked (or close). It's not everyone's cup of tea. [quote]I love to do naked stand up paddle boarding.[/quote] Same with my wife and myself. We do it at least a couple of times a day.ReactReply - BE
BenJul 27, 2024Wifey and I also enjoy LOtW and go a few times each summer.
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BenJul 27, 2024Wifey prefers nudity required places as that keeps the playing field level and feels more comfortable that people are there for the right reason.
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Tom DJul 27, 2024[quote]Not that I have a problem with being naked with clothed folks around me but what is the reason a resort would make nudity mandatory?[/quote] To keep voyeurs out.ReactReply - ST
StevieLornaJul 27, 2024And guys in short shorts.
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nudonySep 17, 2024It's also about everyone being on the same level.
My wife and I started out at C/O resorts. She quickly noticed that outside the pool area, a lot of women were covering up with a sarong or just going topless. So she did not stay naked outside the pool area, because she didn't want to be the "only woman walking around naked."
The first time we went to LOTW she saw right away that no one was covered up anywhere around the resort. Knowing that she would just "blend in" with everyone else, she easily embraced just staying nude all day. We just leave our clothes in the car and don't put anything on until time to leave; like most of the other nudists there. It also makes socializing more "connecting" when everyone you meet is as naked as you are.
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Tom DSep 18, 2024[quote]Just to add, having a nude mandatory or obligatory policy at a club or resort, keeps the "clothing optional" option limited. The clothing optional policies were in place to give newbies time to adjust to total nudity, NOT to remain clothed or covered their entire stay or even after membership. Far too many clothed people at nude clubs and resorts nowadays. At times, the clothed outnumber the nudes. At our club, many of the residents will remain clothed for no apparent reason. We've asked many of them and they actually said, "the novelty wore off!" It was apparent that they saw what they did and bought into as some fad or trend, and they didn't care to partake anymore. They, however, go naked at their sites, in their yards or while working around their units but not so much in the common areas like the pool, pool deck and rec areas. It's our hope that once we sell this house and move into a much smaller place, like a condo, we'll go to the club, find a unit that one of these people live in and buy it cheap! hahaha[/quote] I know that some clothing optional clubs are nudity only in the pool and hot tubs, and sometimes the deck. Apparently, the one you belong to is not one of them. Have you ever considered living full time at a clothing optional resort?ReactReply - BI
BillSep 18, 2024AndyDi, our resort doesn't have places come up for sale very often. Every resort is different and surely goes through cycles when there are more available to buy or when there are none to be had. When my partner bought this parkmodel there were six different units up for sale - something that hadn't happened since this section of the resort was completed, and having that many open hasn't happened since. It was nice to have the 'pick of the litter' for sure. Once the selling began the other five units sold pretty fast, and bear in mind that that moment did happen near the beginning of the pandemic, something which changed a lot of the dynamics - nude resorts were not immune to the nutsy crap that happened during that dark time.
My advice is to hurry up and make the transition to getting yourself a place inside of a nude resort - you will not regret it, except for waiting so long before making it happen. Everything comes at its own pace, but if you see the opportunity, realize it may move outrageously quick. (S)he who hesitates... Seize the day, as they say! Places here at White Tail get snapped up fast now, with so many people trying to join in on the simple beauty of living clothes-free. Covid-19 did horrible things to this world, but the positive side of its terrible cost comes in the way of people's attitudes shifting into seeking out new experiences, nudism being one of those things many people began to look into more seriously.
Clothing optional is fraught with pitfalls. We are nudist here, even though some still choose to wear things when weather says they should be bare. Ideas change, feelings alter, and shifting attitudes are inevitable in the individual mind. One problem this can tend to cause is perceived favoritism. The rules should be applied evenly for all. CO inserts an air of the individual, opening up an inappropriate niche for a person's property to be flaunted, possibly putting them into the mindset that the nudity is actually up to them - specifically where it shouldn't be. I feel as though by making garments 'optional', it immediately takes away a lot of the purpose that undergirds nudism. By leaving behind clothes fully, allowing not these trappings of prestige and status from a textile society mired in its own self-importance, something that has no place at a nude resort, everyone benefits.
I hope the time comes soon where you can make the next step, to sell your present place and move on to be able to go for months without cloth on your skin. We can attest to the fact that full time nudism is an incredible thing to bring into your life, though it comes with some downside. Be prepared to start feeling as though clothes bring an almost allergic reaction when they are required, once you've gotten a taste of total disrobing! Neither of you will want to go to the store when it gets to that point. Don't fight over it! Switch it up and keep the peace. Keep track on a calendar or something. And shop smart to keep the trips out to clothed market to a minimum.
And where's my nude Aldi?
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Stone AndySep 19, 2024[quote]And where's my nude Aldi?[/quote] Try their curbside pickup. For $2 extra, you order online, stay naked in the car and pop open the trunk.ReactReply - EA
EarlDSep 19, 2024interesting how the clothing optional thing seems to be a non issue in Europe and the UK where nudism is growing but major issue in US where nudism is rapidly declining.
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nudonySep 20, 2024[quote]Clothing optional is fraught with pitfalls. We are nudist here, even though some still choose to wear things when weather says they should be bare. Ideas change, feelings alter, and shifting attitudes are inevitable in the individual mind. [/quote] Very well articulated. As usual. :) The thought: "Well... I don't really feel like walking around naked today. I'll just wear my sarong for now..." is in of itself rather innocuous. But when it is combined with a growing demographic of folks covering up; it can lead to an equally growing disinterest in "walking around naked." My wife and I did start out at C/O resorts, and she absolutely got "stuck" in that mindset. Going to LOTW hit the "reset button" when it comes her views on "covering up." The first time she went she elected to stay covered, out of habit; and would later say that she felt she had "dropped the ball." Remaining covered, when everyone else was nude, actually made her more self-conscious than if she had been naked herself. So her motivation upon our return, was to embrace remaining nude. We consider that trip to be our "real" first trip there. It seems to be a theme at LOTW with newbies, who even though still modest, will often prefer to "rip the band-aid" off rather than stand out as "shy newbies." Some would say: "Well it seems people are actually forcing themselves to stay naked." My wife explained this, rather well, to her sister. In a nutshell: "It just becomes natural." After she leaves all her clothes in the car and proceeds to spend the day naked, she has no thought at any point of covering up (unless we stay late and it drops below 65 degrees). It really is that simple. And the reason why we'd always rather go to LOTW.ReactReply - EA
EarlDSep 20, 2024As long as the focus of nudism is your state of dress it will always been niche community. All the past leaders of the naturist movement (including the recently deceased Morley Schloss) understood this and always brought something more to the table to attract and expand the engagement of the mainstream. When the focus is on dress you attract the people who are already predisposed. Every venue is free to make their own rules and live with the consequences.
My home base is clothing optional and this summer there were all kinds of people there and we keep the lid on the weirdos and lookie loos by just following a simple rule. Your behavior is your passport if you be have inappropriately staring ogling people you are or if repeat offender asked to leave. At the discretion of their parents children are clothing optional. It feels so much more democratic to have to let people have the choice. A friend of mine who is a regular there invited her adult son and wife who are very religious to visit. She wanted them to see where she spends here weekends in summer. They accepted and came and stayed for the weekend they did spend much time clothes free but they were exposed the the naturist way of life and were accepting of my friends way of life. The seed was planted. Its on them where it goes from there. JAT
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DianeSep 21, 2024Were keeping our fingers crossed in hope that theyll decide to not only visit TLR again but become regular monthly guests.
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nudonySep 24, 2024I've been to both LOTW and TLR (as well as other venues in the Midwest). My wife and I ultimately chose LOTW; but had it not been more convenient for us to go there during COVID, who knows, TLR might have been our resort of choice.
Some things I like about TLR, some things not so much. Same with LOTW. You can't have everything.
The "obvious" distinction between the 2 resorts is one is completely clothing-optional; the other is not.
I personally have not seen a distinctive difference in attendance between the two. Notwithstanding special events.Yes times are changing and resorts are closing at an alarming rate. My daughter basically grew up at Bell Acres (GA); it is no longer a nudist resort. We used to meet up with friends at Cedar Creek (SC); it is no longer a nudist resort. But to think that TLR, or LOTW, has a better chance of enduring over the other reflects a personal bias, and lack of understanding as to why Millennial/Zoomer interest in resort nudism is waning. It doesn't matter to them whether a resort is clothing-optional or nudity-expected; rustic or commercial. They're just not interested in nudist resorts. Naked gaming with friends at home, or traveling to the nude beaches in Spain is the nudist experience they're going to be more interested in.
We should all support AANR resorts - while they're still around - and bemoan any resort that doesn't survive. Regardless of whether you're a fan or TLR or a fan of LOTW.
Just a thought.
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Tom DSep 24, 2024[quote]I've been to both LOTW and TLR (as well as other venues in the Midwest). My wife and I ultimately chose LOTW; but had it not been more convenient for us to go there during COVID, who knows, TLR might have been our resort of choice. Some things I like about TLR, some things not so much. Same with LOTW. You can't have everything. The "obvious" distinction between the 2 resorts is one is completely clothing-optional; the other is not. I personally have not seen a distinctive difference in attendance between the two. Notwithstanding special events. Yes times are changing and resorts are closing at an alarming rate. My daughter basically grew up at Bell Acres (GA); it is no longer a nudist resort. We used to meet up with friends at Cedar Creek (SC); it is no longer a nudist resort. But to think that TLR, or LOTW, has a better chance of enduring over the other reflects a personal bias, and lack of understanding as to why Millennial/Zoomer interest in resort nudism is waning. It doesn't matter to them whether a resort is clothing-optional or nudity-expected; rustic or commercial. They're just not interested in nudist resorts. Naked gaming with friends at home, or traveling to the nude beaches in Spain is the nudist experience they're going to be more interested in. We should all support AANR resorts - while they're still around - and bemoan any resort that doesn't survive. Regardless of whether you're a fan or TLR or a fan of LOTW. Just a thought.[/quote] I am not familiar with the abbreviation TLR. What is the full name?ReactReply - EA
EarlDSep 24, 2024Short for Turtle Lake Resor [quote] I am not familiar with the abbreviation TLR. What is the full name?[/quote]ReactReply - DI
DianeSep 24, 2024We live in Indiana, a state that has 7 nudist resorts. Up to a few years ago 6 of the 7 resorts were family oriented. Then one of the 6 resorts in the northwest part of the state called Ponderosa became an Adult Nudist Resort much like Sun Aura which is nearby. Our biggest concern is that other family resorts like the one we frequent every year will someday switch over due to the lack of nudist family visitation. Weve been on TN for 13 years and have seen a decline here of nudist families.
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EarlDSep 24, 2024You raise a valid concern that is unfortunately only by what seems to be a declining group. I spoke with you both in person about my solidarity with you and how important I think that is for the future of naturism. i think those who say that resort nudism is dying or dead dont account for the fact that resort nudism is one of the few places family nudism can currently safely take place and nudist families can thrive. I saw so much evidence of that this summer. But I as you noted in reference to the decline in this space, I suspect they are only focused on adult nudist experience. Fortunately there are still a few places that seem to be bucking the decline in family nudism and promoting whole family experience that looks like the golden days of nudism but where families of all kinds can safely practice this wonderful way of life without fear of social stigma. [quote]We live in Indiana, a state that has 7 nudist resorts. Up to a few years ago 6 of the 7 resorts were family oriented. Then one of the 6 resorts in the northwest part of the state called Ponderosa became an Adult Nudist Resort much like Sun Aura which is nearby. Our biggest concern is that other family resorts like the one we frequent every year will someday switch over due to the lack of nudist family visitation. Weve been on TN for 13 years and have seen a decline here of nudist families.[/quote]ReactReply - DI
DianeSep 24, 2024I know that AANR has mentioned the youth nudist camp our son and us attended a few years back in their monthly publication of The Bulletin. Hopefully that will raise the importance of having future generations of nudists families. Thanks for your input on this topic.
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