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Posted Sep 5, 2014

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Go Naked Seattle
Go Naked SeattleOriginal Poster
Sep 5, 2014
Insensitive moderators in the chatI simply asked if there are any gay men in the chat and was banned. It is not illegal to be gay. If my preference is to chat with other gay, male nudists, then why should I be banned? If I was a mechanic and wanted to chat with other mechanics would I get banned?I feel discriminated against. I happen to be a gay male looking to chat with others in the gay community. Is this breaking the rules?
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  • GN
    Go Naked Seattle
    Go Naked SeattleOriginal Poster
    Sep 18, 2014
    [quote][quote]sexual preference has nothing to do with nudity considered trolling[/quote]First, thanks for all you do to help this site stay as good as possible.  I appreciate your contribution.  Thanks also for responding to this thread as silence leaves an empty feeling in us members.  That said, please just consider an other point of view.
    It is clear that there are lots of creeps and trolls and that sex is most definitely the motive of those.  However, just being gay is not a reason to be assumed a troll.  In my view (respectfully submitted), a gay man asking if there are any other gay men online is simply a matter of looking for other human beings with similar background and interest.  I completely understand that it "could" be unwelcome participation here but unless there was other reasons, it should not be considered a reason to boot.  I agree, if this person is repeatedly asking or has a history or any other good reasons to want to curtail their participation, then by all means, boot.
    Personally, I find the pictures on the landing page much less "naturist" than someone seeking a person that they prefer to get acquainted.  The landing page also promotes "See 10,000 pictures of Nudists."  What exactly are we promoting?  I understand it is a business and revenues are needed to make this worthwhile and sustainable but it is hypocritical just a little to promote "seeing pictures" and then boot someone simply for being gay.
    Finally, benefit of the doubt and common courtesy is always proper.  By that I mean there must be more evidence/behavior before we assume the worst.  A simple PM to the offender is an appropriate first step.
    So thanks again.  Let's all be nice and accept one another.  We're nude after all.
    Just say'n.

    [/quote][quote]
    [/quote]Very well written and thank you.
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  • RA
    ravensflyinnow
    ravensflyinnow
    Sep 19, 2014
    [quote][quote][quote][quote]I warned you in the forum when you first posted the link to your Yahoo group.          you show me and every one else where you warned if you can and I guess you think you are something for being here 9 years, well I was married 49 years had 3 kids, 7 grandkids, 4 great grandkids, I believe that makes me more of an adult than you [/quote][/quote]I read your 1st post about the Yahoo group you had started. It is not only against the rules in Terms Of Service, it was downright creepy! Furthermore, I too read where Bunny gave you a friendly, member warning  about having links to other sites. It was there for all members to see.  As for your post after post after post on here, about how you are a victim..It's getting quite old. Time to move on!
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  • NW
    Nick Wakeham
    Nick Wakeham
    Nov 13, 2014
    [quote]I was banned for asking if there were bearded mature men in the chat room.  I didn't like it but I won't be asking any such question again.  Perhaps, it would be only fair to not be allowed to ask for anything you are interested in, in the chat room.  [/quote]I have to admit I never have been in the chat rooms until tonight. I haven't been banned but seemingly my camera wasn't catching my whole face, I must have moved in the chair or something. I didn't actually have my screen up showing what others could see so wasn't aware of this. Anyway, I get a really abrupt message: 'Face on cam' - I got my screen up and noticed it was only showing from my chin down so I adjusted it. Only to get another message straight away: 'Read the rules'Now, I'm not complaining that I should be able to go on these chat rooms and not show my face - look at my pics - loads of them with face clearly showing - but it's the obnoxious schoolmaster way these moderators obviously act! Had a message came up saying: 'Face on cam please' and left it at that then OK but the condescending follow up message was completely uncalled for. It is true what they say: give a man a position or a uniform and watch him turn into a dictator! Reading this forum I can understand why people would get upset and angry. I certainly am not going to bother going back into the chat rooms - it's not really a thing that interests me anyway but a friend had said he was in it and to join in - never again!
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  • MA
    ManOfWicklow
    ManOfWicklow
    Nov 15, 2014

    [img border=0 src="https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-eISeSPRIr6U/UGgLBmA7-2I/AAAAAAAAE94/xtJzblERv_g/s320/boring+pictures+funny+captions+6.jpg" width=320 height=220>

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  • RS
    ruhl straley
    ruhl straley
    Dec 4, 2014
      • [quote]sexual preference has nothing to do with nudity considered trolling[/quote]Trolling? Was this person staring any argument? Upsetting people by his asking to chat with other gay members? Seems a bit steep to kick him from the room unless he was continually asking without getting any replies.
        as usual I agree with you 110%, I just noticed at this time jeri-sandy weren't even butt naked, so how they become moderators
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  • JU
    Justnudenothingmore
    Dec 4, 2014
    [quote]
      • [quote]sexual preference has nothing to do with nudity considered trolling[/quote]Trolling? Was this person staring any argument? Upsetting people by his asking to chat with other gay members? Seems a bit steep to kick him from the room unless he was continually asking without getting any replies.
        as usual I agree with you 110%, I just noticed at this time jeri-sandy weren't even butt naked, so how they become moderators
    [/quote]Since when does a mod need to be nude?  No one needs to be nude on cam I thought.......I have seen a lot of people in the room requesting the same thing over and over.  It's annoying.
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  • RA
    ravensflyinnow
    ravensflyinnow
    Dec 5, 2014
    [quote]The trolling being done is not Internet trolling, but "fishing" type trolling. As in dragging your bait through the water to get a fish to bite.  Also being done to get dates.
    [/quote]Is trying to get to know someone and get a date a bad thing on this site? This is the largest nudist SOCIAL NETWORK  site in the world. Launched in 2007, TN has helped 1000's of nudists meet and socialize. I would think this would be a great place to find a date.

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    Tom === Thomas S. Tierney
    Tom === Thomas S. Tierney
    Dec 5, 2014
    [quote][quote]The trolling being done is not Internet trolling, but "fishing" type trolling. As in dragging your bait through the water to get a fish to bite.  Also being done to get dates.
    [/quote]Is trying to get to know someone and get a date a bad thing on this site?
    [/quote]Just don't "Annoy" anyone.
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  • EV
    Evan-here
    Evan-here
    Dec 5, 2014
    I have a question, when a " gay" person walks in to a bar, or nightclub, or any other social place, do they open the door and shout, " I"m gay and only want to talk to other gays".....is that how it's done?

    NO you say?   that would be rude and crude?   That isn't the proper way to behave in a social place?

    Does a "gay" person's yahoo messenger name always include "gay" in their name?

    How about Skype,  is it normal for them to place Gay in their skype name?

    There are many "Gay" people in the room, men and women.  Most are very well liked by the members of the site that "use" the chat room.

    They most know who the Gay users are,  it has been mentioned in conversations, and no one cares on way of the other.

    The people who come in and the only thing they say in the room is " Gay", they aren't looking to chat with nudists, they are  only looking

    for Gay users.   How often do you think the very same  ones who do that here go in to a gay chat room and only say " nudists"

    Would they be told "wrong room" ?
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  • MA
    ManOfWicklow
    ManOfWicklow
    Dec 5, 2014
    [quote]I have a question, when a " gay" person walks in to a bar, or nightclub, or any other social place, do they open the door and shout, " I"m gay and only want to talk to other gays".....is that how it's done?

    NO you say?   that would be rude and crude?   That isn't the proper way to behave in a social place?

    Does a "gay" person's yahoo messenger name always include "gay" in their name?

    How about Skype,  is it normal for them to place Gay in their skype name?

    There are many "Gay" people in the room, men and women.  Most are very well liked by the members of the site that "use" the chat room.

    They most know who the Gay users are,  it has been mentioned in conversations, and no one cares on way of the other.

    The people who come in and the only thing they say in the room is " Gay", they aren't looking to chat with nudists, they are  only looking

    for Gay users.   How often do you think the very same  ones who do that here go in to a gay chat room and only say " nudists"

    Would they be told "wrong room" ?
    [/quote]Ditto
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  • RA
    ravensflyinnow
    ravensflyinnow
    Dec 5, 2014
    [quote]I have a question, when a " gay" person walks in to a bar, or nightclub, or any other social place, do they open the door and shout, " I"m gay and only want to talk to other gays".....is that how it's done?

    NO you say?   that would be rude and crude?   That isn't the proper way to behave in a social place?

    Does a "gay" person's yahoo messenger name always include "gay" in their name?

    How about Skype,  is it normal for them to place Gay in their skype name?

    There are many "Gay" people in the room, men and women.  Most are very well liked by the members of the site that "use" the chat room.

    They most know who the Gay users are,  it has been mentioned in conversations, and no one cares on way of the other.

    The people who come in and the only thing they say in the room is " Gay", they aren't looking to chat with nudists, they are  only looking

    for Gay users.   How often do you think the very same  ones who do that here go in to a gay chat room and only say " nudists"

    Would they be told "wrong room" ?
    [/quote]No....they wouldn't be told wrong room. I don't spend much time in chat anymore, but I do remember members coming into chat and looking for specific chats, like, single dads and couples. A Scandinavian group would come in at the same time and chat in their native language in the main room. Nobody seemed to have cared. I really don't see what the issue is, unless it's overly repetitive. It seems that some moderators are enforcing rules that don't exist.
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  • CA
    catchup
    Dec 9, 2014

    just been booted from chat. I don't like showing my face on screen as, in the past, i have been recognised. Rusty55, obviously gay insisted on seeing my face & took the pip when i wouldn't show. I know the rules say to show face but i'm not going to be a member of a site which allows pedantic & petulant people decide what & what not i can do. Especially when they aren't moderators. I realise that this will evoke no response from the administrators of the site and that will be to the detriment of an otherwise excellent site. I shall enjoy my naturism elsewhere.

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  • JU
    Justnudenothingmore
    Dec 9, 2014
    [quote]just been booted from chat. I don't like showing my face on screen as, in the past, i have been recognised. Rusty55, obviously gay insisted on seeing my face & took the pip when i wouldn't show. I know the rules say to show face but i'm not going to be a member of a site which allows pedantic & petulant people decide what & what not i can do. Especially when they aren't moderators. I realise that this will evoke no response from the administrators of the site and that will be to the detriment of an otherwise excellent site. I shall enjoy my naturism elsewhere.[/quote]
    Okay you admit that you know the rules say to show face, you broke the rules and you're ticked off and resorting to name calling on a Mod because you got kicked?  I am missing the logic here......

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  • JO
    John
    John
    Dec 9, 2014
    [quote]just been booted from chat. I don't like showing my face on screen as, in the past, i have been recognised. Rusty55, obviously gay insisted on seeing my face & took the pip when i wouldn't show. I know the rules say to show face but i'm not going to be a member of a site which allows pedantic & petulant people decide what & what not i can do. Especially when they aren't moderators. I realise that this will evoke no response from the administrators of the site and that will be to the detriment of an otherwise excellent site. I shall enjoy my naturism elsewhere.[/quote]If you're not going to show your face, why do you even have the cam turned on?  What were you showing?

    John aka cobeachbum
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    ManOfWicklow
    ManOfWicklow
    Dec 9, 2014
    [quote][quote]just been booted from chat. I don't like showing my face on screen as, in the past, i have been recognised. Rusty55, obviously gay insisted on seeing my face & took the pip when i wouldn't show. I know the rules say to show face but i'm not going to be a member of a site which allows pedantic & petulant people decide what & what not i can do. Especially when they aren't moderators. I realise that this will evoke no response from the administrators of the site and that will be to the detriment of an otherwise excellent site. I shall enjoy my naturism elsewhere.[/quote]If you're not going to show your face, why do you even have the cam turned on?  What were you showing?

    John aka cobeachbum
    [/quote]Yes John, I was just wondering the same, so looked at his profile, and after joining TN a year ago, it is still completely blank. Really makes one wonder why he's here ?
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  • EV
    EvansBetterHalf
    EvansBetterHalf
    Dec 10, 2014
    Frankly if you were on my Mod watch and refused to put your face on cam, I would have kicked you also.
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  • JU
    Justnudenothingmore
    Dec 12, 2014
    Yawn.......again.......
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  • MA
    ManOfWicklow
    ManOfWicklow
    Dec 13, 2014

    [img border=0 src="https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-eISeSPRIr6U/UGgLBmA7-2I/AAAAAAAAE94/xtJzblERv_g/s320/boring+pictures+funny+captions+6.jpg" width=320 height=220>

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  • RS
    ruhl straley
    ruhl straley
    Dec 16, 2014
      • [quote][quote]just been booted from chat. I don't like showing my face on screen as, in the past, i have been recognised. Rusty55, obviously gay insisted on seeing my face & took the pip when i wouldn't show. I know the rules say to show face but i'm not going to be a member of a site which allows pedantic & petulant people decide what & what not i can do. Especially when they aren't moderators. I realise that this will evoke no response from the administrators of the site and that will be to the detriment of an otherwise excellent site. I shall enjoy my naturism elsewhere.[/quote]If you're not going to show your face, why do you even have the cam turned on?  What were you showing?

        John aka cobeachbum
        [/quote]Yes John, I was just wondering the same, so looked at his profile, and after joining TN a year ago, it is still completely blank. Really makes one wonder why he's here ?.............100% in agreement , why would you join a nudist site where true nudists in the real world show everything they have and then come and think they should  not show their face, and not post pics or even use their real name, if you want ppl to know you and chat or meet , be open, I think I put tmi in my profiles, but I am a pd certified member on tn and ts ..............Ruhl
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  • RS
    ruhl straley
    ruhl straley
    Dec 16, 2014
      • Challenge a mod and get kickedPower is power yet we are asked to contribute! Evan Ready kills the site. Why is he a mod  ??? Get rid
        what you think there should be no rules here , what world do you live in, plus if more ppl were pd members, then a new way of certifying members could be adopted
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  • RS
    ruhl straley
    ruhl straley
    Dec 17, 2014
      • [quote]I was one of the members that volunteered to become a "photo moderator".  I could not believe how many photos I have reviewed that were not within the standards of Truenudists.  The belonged in Trueswingers.  When the crotch is the main focus of the photo, or the girl and guy are grasping a portion of the breast/penis/vagina, or he is aroused, and they still submit the photos.  Then there are the young ones.  I wish when we reviewed the photos, the submitter's profile name would be visible, because I really do believe that a heck of a lot of photos submitted are from fake profiles.  I have had not problem disapproving a bunch of entries, and will continue to do so, and from this experience, there is no way I would want to be a chat moderator, more power to them, and if they did have more power, maybe this site would become a better user friendly site.
        [/quote]I agree with everything you've said but can't believe how many crotch/crutch pics there are as main photos on this site. Usually the only photo on the profile and everything else n/a so maybe its profiles that should be approved and not just pics.....you are right about profile pics
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  • ME
    Member
    Mar 13, 2015
    [quote]moderators are very hypocrites like jere sandy and evans here........ i delete my profile cause them..they say  "public chat" is friendly? let me laugh...i prefer to chat in private it's more interesting ..MODERATORS ARE SO PRUDE AND RULES SO STUPID.moderators kill the chat every time. we are better without them..believe me.
    a disapointed member. (with no pics in profile - i have done it on purpose) i hate all these moderators supposedly friendly with all people. RIDICULOUS THEY ARE ! and so happy to not meet them.

    [/quote]the important part of this>>>" i delete my profile cause them"
    AMF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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  • NJ
    njnudistjohn
    njnudistjohn
    May 26, 2015
    I got booted for raising the issue of a supposed female who was harassing me for having nude photos taken in the mirror.  I didn't identify the user name of the woman though I could have.  I noted it was a laugh that a woman with no nude photos and who was not certified was claiming I am a fake though I am certified. I noted most of the time when people do that they are men posting as women.   I pointed out to "her" that many resorts don't allow photos to be taken so expecting photos at resorts is nonsense. "She" trashed home nudists saying home nudists are not real nudists.  The male half of a non-certified couple took issue (most likely because he is a fake as well) then attacked me for daring to point out the hypocrisy then moderator tony something booted me. It is a riot being booted for pointing out how stupid the attacks were against home nudists and people without photos at a resort by someone who is non-certified without such photos.

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  • BE
    bearito67
    bearito67
    Jun 21, 2016
    [quote]Insensitive moderators in the chatI simply asked if there are any gay men in the chat and was banned. It is not illegal to be gay. If my preference is to chat with other gay, male nudists, then why should I be banned? If I was a mechanic and wanted to chat with other mechanics would I get banned?I feel discriminated against. I happen to be a gay male looking to chat with others in the gay community. Is this breaking the rules?
    [/quote]I was banned from the chat room last night, since I have asked if someone like to private chat. I don't like to chat in main room, sometimes it doesn't make any sense and I can't follow any conversation. Someone (quiet rudely) asked me to update my profile before asking to private chat and at my answer "I prefer to manage my profile the way I want it to be...' I was banned. no reason! This is rude, unfair and patronising.

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