Wheelchair naturist — Rules for posting in here on True Nudists

NeilOriginal Poster

Dec 2, 2021

Hello everyone. I'm a wheelchair user and a longtime home nudist. This may seem a really weird and stupid question but are there many wheelienudiists around? I never hear about any or ever see any pictures or references about it.

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Bill
Dec 12, 2021
With so much negative judgementalism connected to nudism - something mobility-challenged people commonly deal with as well - I feel that nudists with mobility problems are given higher respect in our clothing-free communities than in the general population. Society has started to embrace the individual who doesn't have the luxury of full physical faculties with special parking and bathrooms which are geared to assist those who deal with these issues. It seems to me that we in the nudist world are moving more quickly in the right direction.
White Tail Nudist Resort had a lovely member for many years who needed special assistance until he passed a few months ago. He predated me as a member, and the management made good strides in making more attractions at the resort much more easy-access for him and others. Items like chair lifts at both pools, ramps at one of the rental unit buildings, handicap-friendly block houses with showers, dishwashing stations and bathrooms, more recently adding push button door openers, and of course the requisite close-access parking spaces, have all have been nice additions. There are numerous members here who use canes, mobilized wheel chairs and other assists to make their lives easier. The more our resort looks into increasing accessibility, the better it feels and the happier we all get. It's a ridiculously happy place and the more the merrier should include EVERYONE!
There are many things that could be improved upon, but can't that be said about most anything? Will there be a chair lift installed when we get our new hot tub? Wheelchair accessibility into all the rental units will be very challenging because ramps are oftentimes near impossible to make happen given the specific circumstances. There are members here who rise to the occasion beautifully, so I'm hopeful.
Our chapel has been instrumental in helping some members by building access ramps at their personal residences. With our visitors aging, some more gracefully than others, accommodation for the ones who have special needs is growing nicely. With positive press for nudism and its attached fiscal growth, nudey tourism is bringing in more diverse people, and with that, the motivation for better access is increasing. Bring it on! We're all not getting any younger ~ and that's alright. Come, come all, and see us thrive!
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Stone Andy
Dec 12, 2021
I'm encouraged to hear how resorts are accommodating related to mobility issues. The best is that I didn't read the accommodations were focused on women wheelie nudists. Here at Midwestern resorts, you'd have first overcome the stigma of being an unchaperoned male before considering things like ramps and door openers, and I'm glad that's not relevant at the camps mentioned in this thread. Things are changing and opening up for the better!
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Philip
Dec 12, 2021
I'm not yet in the wheelchair stage, I use a cane or walker. I haven't tried a beach yet until I find a walker with balloon tires. Generally traveling off-pavement is challenging at a minimum. I'll keep trying to get around alone, I do ok so, so far.
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Gordy57
Dec 12, 2021
[quote]Here at Midwestern resorts, you'd have first overcome the stigma of being an unchaperoned male before considering things like ramps and door openers, and I'm glad that's not relevant at the camps mentioned in this thread. Things are changing and opening up for the better![/quote] For the love of Christ Andy. Why are you still harping on this? You are a grown man, but acting like a spoiled rotten brat demanding to go where you are not wanted. I read a post on TN from the manager of a resort (in GB I think). Long story short, they knuckled under and started letting all single men in. Pretty soon single women stopped coming, then couples stopped coming, then the single males stop coming because there were no women there. The resort about went belly up. And had to go back to the old rules and try to get the old customers back in the gate. Maybe buy some land and start your own resort, and run it the way you want. From what I have read here you may start out coed, but will soon be male only. Not because of rules, but because women don't want to be there. So you would either go broke or end up with a gay mans sex club. It has all been explained here repeatedly if you are just willing to read and comprehend it.
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John
Dec 12, 2021
Gordy wrote: [quote] I read a post on TN from the manager of a resort (in GB I think). Long story short, they knuckled under and started letting all single men in. Pretty soon single women stopped coming, then couples stopped coming, then the single males stop coming because there were no women there. The resort about went belly up. And had to go back to the old rules and try to get the old customers back in the gate. [/quote] If it is predestined that all resorts that allow single women are going to end up like that, then we're doomed, because unaccompanied males seem to be in the majority at most of the events I've been to. But I can take heart in the fact that even though males are in the majority there, and I am myself am an unaccompanied male, I haven't seen any of this bias in the places I've been to in California and Oregon. Granted, I am a card-carrying member of TNS and my wife and I are listed together on the membership card, so that may have deflected some of the ill will at the front office. But at least at the places I go, and at my non-landed club, that exclusion policy isn't in effect, and these clubs and resorts are thriving. As I've posted in another thread, I don't know what the vetting policies were at that GB club you mentioned. But if it didn't include some requirement for membership in a national naturist society, and if it didn't have some sort of sponsorhip program, and didn't have a mechanism in place for weeding out those who were making trouble, then I can't be surprised at the turn it took. But to get this thread back on track, my local resort at Laguna del Sol seems to be up on ADA compliance regarding ramps and access and such. And I have seen the occasional person in a wheelchair.
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John
Dec 12, 2021
[quote]Here at Midwestern resorts, you'd have first overcome the stigma of being an unchaperoned male before considering things like ramps and door openers, and I'm glad that's not relevant at the camps mentioned in this thread. Things are changing and opening up for the better! For the love of Christ Andy. Why are you still harping on this? You are a grown man, but acting like a spoiled rotten brat demanding to go where you are not wanted. I read a post on TN from the manager of a resort (in GB I think). Long story short, they knuckled under and started letting all single men in. Pretty soon single women stopped coming, then couples stopped coming, then the single males stop coming because there were no women there. The resort about went belly up. And had to go back to the old rules and try to get the old customers back in the gate. Maybe buy some land and start your own resort, and run it the way you want. From what I have read here you may start out coed, but will soon be male only. Not because of rules, but because women don't want to be there. So you would either go broke or end up with a gay mans sex club. It has all been explained here repeatedly if you are just willing to read and comprehend it.[/quote] It all comes down to management enforcing rules of decorum. If management enforces the rules (even with long-time members), these issues don't occur. If management is lax, the morons take over. The worst abusers in my experience are long term members who are there without the wife and become complete jerks. Complaints fall on deaf ears because the establishment doesn't want to lose a long-time member. The main place I went to in Colorado had no quotas, but rules of behavior were strictly enforced. There were seldom any issues, and while men usually out-numbered women, the ration wasn't too bad (60/40). The other place I occasionally went simply because it was closer did not enforce any rules (and the biggest jerk was the manager - place has since been sold and he is no longer there). People (even guys) would call ahead to see if he was going to be there that day and decide on that information whether to go or not. Bottom line, good management will make you, bad management will break you. John
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Nick
Dec 13, 2021
i am not only a wheelchair user but also new to the nudist lifestyle
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Paul
Jan 28, 2022
Does a wheelchair have a tendency to cast the person in a helpless/harmless light?
Before you get overly upset with me for suggesting any such thing, consider some other possibilities.
A nude 20-something or 30-something able-bodied man is probably assumed to be a sexual predator merely due to his age, sex, lack of clothing, and able-bodied status.
But the same man at 90 with a walker would probably not be seen as a sexual predator.
So, maybe it's not a huge shift, but I would think that a wheelchair would get you at least a bit of a pass.
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Jeff Winterstein
Jan 29, 2022
Hello,
I have MS and use a variety of mobility options.
I recently attended a weekend hotel while using a walker. The other attendees were friendly, welcoming and helpful.
Another attendee helped me clean the snow off my car after the event ended.
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Paul
Jan 29, 2022
But does it get you any sort of a "pass" when it comes to nudity.
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Jeff Winterstein
Jan 29, 2022
Not sure what you mean by that but I remained as naked as the rest of the attendees during the event
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Strandjunge59
Jan 29, 2022
Some discussions have a strange course. It starts with a question of a wheelchair naturist if there any other naturists with a wheelchair. And then the question is asked if a man in a wheelchair has advantages over a man without it. You don't believe it.
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Stone Andy
Jan 30, 2022
[quote]For the love of Christ Andy. Why are you still harping on this? You are a grown man, but acting like a spoiled rotten brat demanding to go where you are not wanted. I read a post on TN from the manager of a resort (in GB I think). Long story short, they knuckled under and started letting all single men in. Pretty soon single women stopped coming, then couples stopped coming, then the single males stop coming because there were no women there. The resort about went belly up. And had to go back to the old rules and try to get the old customers back in the gate. Maybe buy some land and start your own resort, and run it the way you want. From what I have read here you may start out coed, but will soon be male only. Not because of rules, but because women don't want to be there. So you would either go broke or end up with a gay mans sex club. It has all been explained here repeatedly if you are just willing to read and comprehend it.[/quote] I comprehend it, and do you comprehend how nudism is dying before your eyes? I'm too proud to go where I'm not welcome and won't try to schmooze my way at the resort gate with two young sons hoping I won't be discriminated against as a single male. However, it's a bit of a legal bind for a resort to let in a handicapped single male to prove they don't discriminate against people of different abilities when they feel justified in discriminating against able-bodied single men. After reading the post about the UK owner, I understand how he has to be loyal to old customers, while at the same time sustaining the business as people move and die off. He also mentioned he would likely close and sell the club as land rather than pass it down or sell it as a business. You are also right that the other option is starting a gay man's sex club. Those are the two options in puritanical nudism: old married couples or gay sex. I get it. I imagine you also respect that no one in our household, including my sons (the future without pants), consider ourselves nudists because of this divide. Discrimination against single men is not my issue. Here is is: nudism is dying. Thank God for millennials who will continue to be naked on their terms. They just call it something else and all the power to them.
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Philip
Jan 30, 2022
Well, I'm not in a wheelchair, but I do have to use a cane or walker. I haven't noticed any benefit from using them beyond most people opening doors for me, which I appreciate.
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Philip
Jan 30, 2022
I find myself restricted to paved surfaces even with my walker, I feel for those in wheelchairs. I wish I could still enjoy being able to go off-road so to speak. I want to try a beach, and if I can afford a suitable walker I'll do so.
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Strandjunge59
Jan 30, 2022
I don't need any walker or wheelchair. But my wife had a walker for about 20 years. After a serious illness she generated an incredible energy to come from bed in the wheelchair and then back to her walker. You are handicapped with a walker in everyday life and even much more with a wheelchair. Sometimes people helped my wife to come into a bus or tram with her walker but only when she got older. When she was younger she only got incomprehensible looks with her walker.
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John
Jan 30, 2022
em1dub wrote: [quote] What also caught my attention in this thread is an increased interest in facilities and aids ( some very costly ) for members with mobility issues at nudist facilities. And of course the anti-single-male bigotry in many nudist clubs and increased demand for alterations and equipment for mobility-challenged members are related. The additional enhancements and equipment reflect the ageing demographic in those clubs and not an enhanced empathy for the handicapped. [/quote] That's an interesting point. As club members age out, they become more interested in accessibility issues, and put pressure on the club to accommodate them. That's a sort of peer pressure that the government can't mandate.
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Ron Freeze
Jan 30, 2022
Hey Phil
I have had the pleasure of meeting you. I didn't feel anything but you are a Gentleman of the highest order. My Mother and Grand Mother were Native .. I believe they pasted along a sense to read if someone is a person not to associate with you are not one of those people.
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Philip
Jan 30, 2022
Thank you for the kind words, Ron. I look forward to seeing you soon.
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TJ
Jan 30, 2022
[quote]But does it get you any sort of a "pass" when it comes to nudity.[/quote] For some reason, when I clicked on this thread it brought me here rather than to the beginning or end of the discussion . All I saw was some guy trying to find out if a wheelchair could get a guy a "pass" to gain entry in a resort. Needless to say, I was briefly flipping TF out. I was thinking, "What kind of Ted Bundy bullshit is this?!" Fortunately, I quickly got a handle on what the conversation was about,but wow! Goes to show how badly things can be misconstrued when one doesn't have the whole story! **"*" "**" "*" "" "" "" "" Hmmm...but I suppose it DOES suggest the possibility that someone who is assumed to be harmless could be just as predatory.
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