Do you know Jan Gay?

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  Stone Andy

  Feb 7, 2023

  So Jan Gay was both queer and nonsexual?

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  Rick

  Feb 7, 2023

  [quote]So Jan Gay was both queer and nonsexual?[/quote] Indeed . Of course one can participate in non-sexual nudity regardless of their sexuality.

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  StevieLorna

  Feb 7, 2023

  [quote]So Jan Gay was both queer and nonsexual?[/quote] That is not what HCF posted. He posted that she was a , non sexual nudist pioneer Which means being able to socialise naked without it leading to sexual feelings. Im pretty sure when she wanted to have sex she did in an appropriate place. Which means not on the pool table with you looking on.

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  EarlDOriginal Poster

  Feb 7, 2023

  [quote]So Jan Gay was both queer and nonsexual? Indeed . Of course one can participate in non-sexual nudity regardless of their sexuality.[/quote] Exactly the point though my resident troll missed it again

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  EarlDOriginal Poster

  Feb 7, 2023

  If your intention was to actually engage is real conversation and not troll you might have noticed the comma that has been pointed out to you and taken time to explore the article and the difference between a person sexual orientation and their practice of naturism. Let me spell it out for you my troll friend. Jan Gay aka Helen Reitman was an out lesbian in the 1930s when she wrote the book on Going Naked and the movie This Nude Age. She is considered a pioneer in American nudism and started a naturist community in Hudson Valley NY. In addition at the same time concurrent with your practice of nonsexual nudity and leading in that movement, she was a sex researcher who was ahead of her time doing research on the sexual lives of people who identified queer and lesbian ling before Kinsey. Simply put nonsexual social nudity does not mean a person has no sex life and doesnt make them prudes. A person sexual orientation or gender identity should not determine their ability to be a naturist. [quote]So Jan Gay was both queer and nonsexual?[/quote]

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  Stone Andy

  Feb 8, 2023

  [quote]Simply put nonsexual social nudity does not mean a person has no sex life and doesnt make them prudes. A person sexual orientation or gender identity should not determine their ability to be a naturist.[/quote] You are right to call me out on trolling for my comment. I apologize. I read the article and agree that Gay deserves recognition for her pioneering work in the field of human sexuality. I personally find the qualified term "non-sexual nudity" amusing, like there's some natural blurring of genitalia. Humans are sexual by nature; likely more sexual when scantily and titillatingly clothed. Nudity kind of blows their cover. Perhaps a term such as "social nudity without exhibiting sexual behaviors" is a more accurate description of your point. I agree that social nudity can and should just be social nudity free of sexual judgment.

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  StevieLorna

  Feb 8, 2023

  Now youve got it.. [quote]Perhaps a term such as "social nudity without exhibiting sexual behaviors" is a more accurate description of your point.[/quote] Excellent point, but a bit cumbersome. Fortunately I can shorten that ideal. Simply use Nudist. Or as I prefer Naturist. Now you understand the meaning of those words, why not help educate those who dont.

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  Stone Andy

  Feb 8, 2023

  [quote]Now youve got it...[/quote] I'm honored! That's close to a compliment and will take it!

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  EarlDOriginal Poster

  Feb 8, 2023

  This response is the perfect example of why I dont engage with you any more. [quote] You are right to call me out on trolling for my comment. I apologize. I read the article and agree that Gay deserves recognition for her pioneering work in the field of human sexuality. I personally find the qualified term "non-sexual nudity" amusing, like there's some natural blurring of genitalia. Humans are sexual by nature; likely more sexual when scantily and titillatingly clothed. Nudity kind of blows their cover. Perhaps a term such as "social nudity without exhibiting sexual behaviors" is a more accurate description of your point. I agree that social nudity can and should just be social nudity free of sexual judgment.[/quote]

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  Jim

  Feb 10, 2023

  Thank you again for the information.

  Learning what our history is and what the people were going through is important !

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