Cameras have always been banned at nudist locations, but with the changing technology of photography, I believe that it is time to set a more realistic set of rules for the use of cameras. Personally, I am not opposed to taking photos at nudist locations. From the many photos posted in members profiles it is apparent that I am not the only one who believes this. Actually I sort of resent not being able to take pictures at various resorts, but that is their rules so I follow them. This is one of the reasons I am writing this post; to update the rules. Another reason is that we have had many activities and great times with some great people and have nothing tangible to remember them by. Photos would be most appreciated so we could remember all the great times. So here's my suggested set of rules for taking photos.
1. Always have permission of the subject before taking any photo.
2. Be sure of your background. Do not take photos with others in the background. (This is probably the most important rule and the main reason camers are routinely banned.)
3. Do not take candid shots unless the subjects know and agree in advance that it is acceptable.
4. Avoid taking shots from unflattering angles.
5. Never post any photo on line or in any publication with out the consent of the photo subject.
6. Do not share your photos on line with anyone other that the subject of the photos.
It seems simple enough. It's simply a matter of showing common courtesy to your fellow nudist. I would hope that others would comment on this and maybe suggest their own rules. The main goal here is to create a new, updated set of rules for camera use at nudist locations.
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macnudeMay 19, 2011I have suggested elsewhere that the resorts and clubs have a special area for those that wish to take photos.
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NoneMay 19, 2011A seperate location for photos is a great idea.
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catbirdMay 19, 2011Officially cameras are banned at nudist resorts. However, off the record, if you ask in the resort office, somebody from the resort management will take the pictures. Somebody from management would be certain to not take any inappropriate pictures. A suggestion, have them take pool shots early in the morning, before there are people in the background.
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NightOwlMay 19, 2011As a responsible person, I too wish I could carry a camera along to take nature pics. I would love to be able to stroll through the woods taking nature shots, but I completely understand the threat of unwanted pictures being posted all over the net, especially childrens pictures.
Once again, the few idiots, jackasses, and pervs ruin it for the rest of us. Who says majority rules, the unwanted minority seem to be dictating the way things are. Maybe some good old fashioned self regulation would work, pull the pervs aside, beat the living snot out of them AND smash all their expensive equipment.ReactReply - TH
ThomasMay 19, 2011The suggested rules are good, as long as people follow standards like that pics are allowed at nude beach I go to. I have some pics on my profile that were taked there followiing the same policy. The group pic I took was only posted because I had the permission of the rest.
Since the beach is a county park on a lake and you have to be at least 18 to enter, it eliminates concern about anyone under 18 being photographed.ReactReply - EV
EvansBetterHalfMay 19, 2011Bump and move to the top, please!
ReactReply - THThomasMay 20, 2011
In the US, a model release is required for most pics used for monetary gain. The exception is pictures taken for a news event.
Concerning voting for candidate whose spouse modeled nude, it would not have any impact. I did not vote for our current president and don't plan to vote for him when he runs for reelection, even if his wife did model nude.ReactReply - CA
CabotCheeseMay 23, 2011[quote]I have suggested elsewhere that the resorts and clubs have a special area for those that wish to take photos.[/quote] Splendid idea!!ReactReply - CACabotCheeseMay 23, 2011[quote]There have been cases in the past at resorts, of pervs using long lenses to photograph nude children from their trailer, camper, or tent.[/quote] Aren't the pervs going to do this regardless of the rules? If one shoting from a camper or tent, there is no way to police that since the camera naver sees the light of day otside of the camper or tent.ReactReply
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rickinohioMay 24, 2011I am surprised by part of this. While I was stationed in Germany in the late 1970's some friends took pictures of their own children in a bath tub. The pictures (film back then, no digital) came back after being processed by a local shop with "Verbotten" (Forbidden) stamped across those pictures. Maybe standards have changed or maybe Germany was just different.
ReactReply - MEMemberMay 24, 2011
My two cents worth, as a shutterbug, I love to take photos of many different subjects, the human form being one of my favourites.
While I understand people are sometimes sensitive to the possibility of being seen in someone's pics, it is a resort that is open to the public, and I hate the idea of being banned because of some evil suspicions. Those who have shown they are trustworthy perhaps should be allowed? The idea of banning all cameras is one more example of a freedom eroded by our culture of fear. Fight back for our rights, and anyone who publishes photos without permission deserves to get whatever fate might cross him!
Taking photos of children is particularly troubling, and anyone trying that needs to be banned, if they survive!ReactReply - CO
Curt, or CowboyJun 16, 2011All of the concerns expressed here are valid !
My experience suggests that there are two options, depending on how long you've been going to a particular resort.
One, is to ask the "club photog" to shoot the pics for you. ( possibly even paying him/her )
Two, is that one *might* get permission, maybe, if you have established yourself as genuine, and of good character, but I doubt it.The reason for the major concern about children in the USA is two-fold.
One, is obvious.
The other is the prevailing legal thought that if anything even resembling child porn in the slightest is allowed, that perverts and predators will be recruiting otherwise uninvolved and completely innocent children into less than savory conditions.
The first concern, we all agree with. Exploitation of children can not be tollerated under any conditions.
The second, I'm not so sure. Maybe, but I suspect not to the extent the which hunts suggest.
I could be wrong.ReactReply - DEDesertRatOriginal PosterJun 16, 2011[quote]Kudos to Fatpizzaman for his deadpan sarcasm! Summation: as much as nudists would like to have the freedom to take their cameras into the clubs, the potential for abuse must govern policy. "(L)ogic clearly dictates that the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few." -- Spock,Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan[/quote] Mr. Spock: Our Country is founded upon the fact that the rights of a single individual take precedence over the needs and desires of a group. A single individual however does not necessarily have the right to change the tenants of a group he wishes to join.ReactReply
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RadManYoJun 17, 2011Hehe, I like the rules you posted man. Now, if only I carried a camera, or even owned a camera. All I got is my camera phone, which is sadly.... errr.... gone blind? ^ ^" Anyways, quite sure others shall appreciate what ya said
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Paul VoglerJun 17, 2011[quote]Kudos to Fatpizzaman for his deadpan sarcasm! Summation: as much as nudists would like to have the freedom to take their cameras into the clubs, the potential for abuse must govern policy. "(L)ogic clearly dictates that the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few." -- Spock,Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan[/quote] How come I never get kudos for my sarcasm? I'm the most sarcastic fat bastard on this site! I am deeply wounded.ReactReply - MB
mr. billJun 25, 2011Use of the KISS method should be applied.Treat others as you wish to be treated and world would be easier to live in !!!!ReactReply - ARaragonesJun 25, 2011[quote]Cameras have always been banned at nudist locations, but with the changing technology of photography, I believe that it is time to set a more realistic set of rules for the use of cameras. Personally, I am not opposed to taking photos at nudist locations. From the many photos posted in members profiles it is apparent that I am not the only one who believes this. Actually I sort of resent not being able to take pictures at various resorts, but that is their rules so I follow them. This is one of the reasons I am writing this post; to update the rules. Another reason is that we have had many activities and great times with some great people and have nothing tangible to remember them by. Photos would be most appreciated so we could remember all the great times. So here's my suggested set of rules for taking photos. 1. Always have permission of the subject before taking any photo. 2. Be sure of your background. Do not take photos with others in the background. (This is probably the most important rule and the main reason camers are routinely banned.) 3. Do not take candid shots unless the subjects know and agree in advance that it is acceptable. 4. Avoid taking shots from unflattering angles. 5. Never post any photo on line or in any publication with out the consent of the photo subject. 6. Do not share your photos on line with anyone other that the subject of the photos. It seems simple enough. It's simply a matter of showing common courtesy to your fellow nudist. I would hope that others would comment on this and maybe suggest their own rules. The main goal here is to create a new, updated set of rules for camera use at nudist locations.[/quote]ReactReply
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Cheri Donna DawsonJun 25, 2011[quote]This is a camcorder, 640 x 480 resolution, and it can record up to 8 hours of video and audio on a memory card. This is how good 640 x 480 can be.
It is unlikely that the camera will provide that clarity, but the capability is there. Try to keep those out of nudist venues. Security is going to rely increasingly on the alertness of everyone.[/quote]
I love the photos of the snowdrops. I have no idea how to use the camera in my cell phone; I use it strictly for calls. I do carry my digital in my canvas tote - never know when a great photo op will happen. Happily, the places I go/visit are aware of me and my integrity. I always do get photo releases signed.ReactReply - MAmacnudeJun 25, 2011Certainly, no one should be subjected to having their nude photo taken without consent. However, the total prohibition of photography denies those who would like a record of their vaaction activities. I have had my photo taken on several nude beaches while traveling. Since my wife does not always accompany me to the beach, I simply ask someone if they would mind snapping a few pictures with my camera. No one has ever denied this request. It may be noted that I do not walk around waving my camera but keep it in a beach bag until the pictures are to be taken then immediatly return it to the bag. Regarding my earlier sugestion that a designated photography area be established; if no area is isolated enough to allow photos without making someone nervous, a trusted volunteer could be assigned to monitor the area or take the photos. Time for use could even be restricted to an hour or two per week. Cameras and cell phones should be carried in a bag to the photo area. On a related note: I found it interesting that when theOfficial Picturewas being taken for the World Record Skinny Dip in 2009 & 20010 everyone in the pool was given the oportunity to turn their back to the camera so their face would not be seen. All continued to face the camera.ReactReply
- MEMemberJun 25, 2011
Desert Rat, I like what you posted, well said and thought out. I also agree common courtesy, respect go a long way and not just in the nudist lifestyle. I too would love photos of my many experiences with friends at the resorts I have visited. David
ReactReply - MEMemberSep 1, 2011
Never thought of taking a camera to the resorts or beaches I visit. Just think it is asking for trouble in so many ways. Even though one might want pictures to remember their vacations, you have to respect the rights and privacy of others. This is definitely an interesting subject.
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Bill BowserSep 1, 2011With advancing electronic camera technology comes the increasing
difficulty of maintaining any sort of privacy everywhere in society, not
just in the places where nudists gather. As with practically every
human activity rules regarding the use of cameras at nude resorts are
necessary to try to be fair and keep the majority happy, but there will
always be those who ignore the rules. This discussion ignores a
significant underlying issue which never seems to be addressed. Why are
we so sensitive about being photographed? Or perhaps the question should
be, why are we so sensitive about having strangers see photos of us
enjoying our preferred lifestyle? Many of us seem to be comfortable
while nude in the presence of other nudists, but are averse to being
seen by others. I've never been able to understand what the difference
might be. People who look at me have no effect on me, and if anyone
would want to photograph my nude body, that wouldn't affect me either.
And even if this photographer posted my nude picture(s) on every
newspaper, magazine, and website he could find, so what? No one would
really care. There is a lot of paranoia among our ranks.I believe there is general agreement among us that there should
be no shame or embarrassment about nudism, but very few of us act like
we truly believe that. Our approach to our privacy is pretty juvenile.
We don't even reveal our surnames to our friends at nude resorts. Few of
our clubs reveal their association with nudism on signage that is
visible to the general public. Even the ANNR Bulletin is mailed out in
an envelope on which there is no hint of its connection to nudism. This
nonsense reminds me of a group of kids building a secret clubhouse in
the woods where they gather to do whatever they want and exclude others.
Our
apparent fear of public exposure is very much over-rated. If President
Clinton can be exposed for engaging in sexual activities with an intern
in the Whitehouse and still remain in office then I can't imagine there
would be any serious effect if nudists were "outed". There are many
nudist activists in the public arena who seem to manage somehow. Some of
us have already realized that trying to hide our lifestyle from others
is not a good idea. The old approach is not serving our interestes.
Isn't it time to come out of the closet? How can we expect the acceptance of our lifestyle by the general public if we're afraid to admit that we participate in it?ReactReply - MAmacnudeSep 1, 2011
Wow, this sounds like something I might have written! Almost everyone knows that I enjoy nudist activities and if they want to view photos of me, so be it.
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dicemanSep 1, 2011I have pictures taken at resorts. There are very few resorts where this can be done. Also, even if it is said that it's ok, one should make sure no one else is in the background. If your not sure, leave the picture taking device behind.
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