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  Strandjunge59

  Jan 19, 2022

  [quote]In Australia, more and more girls and young women are wearing g string bikinis.[/quote] The comment of my wife about g string bikinis was "They should better go nude".

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  Philip

  Jan 19, 2022

  I agree with your wife, a G String brings emphasis to the vagina that nudity doesn't.

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  Paul

  Jan 19, 2022

  Isn't it interesting that nude is almost always less sexual than skimpily clad?[quote]I agree with your wife, a G String brings emphasis to the vagina that nudity doesn't.[/quote]

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  nudeyooper

  Jan 19, 2022

  [quote]Isn't it interesting that nude is almost always less sexual than skimpily clad? I agree with your wife, a G String brings emphasis to the vagina that nudity doesn't.[/quote] Yes, those three little patches of cloth draw attention to the parts that the wearer does not want you to see. About the only thing we don't know is how much hair has been removed and the size of the areola.

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  Balazs B. J.

  Jan 19, 2022

  Well, there is plenty and compelling anthropological evidence that body covering, clothing, was primarily "invented" not for protection, "modesty" (which is a man-made concept anyway, there is no "modesty" in nature), etc. those came later, but for sexual attraction!!!

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  Strandjunge59

  Jan 19, 2022

  An interesting theory [quote]clothing, was primarily "invented" ... for sexual attraction!!![/quote] but I don't think so. Man was millions of years nude and began to dress when they reached the colder parts of the world. People in Africa and Australia remain nude. People there believed in a world of good and bad ghosts. Some of them mainly women protected their body orifices against bad ghosts with some kind of clothing sometimes only symbolic with a string. Clothing for sexual attraction is an invention of the clothed part of the world.

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  Balazs B. J.

  Jan 19, 2022

  Look at some cultures where everyday nudity is the norm. They mainly decorate themselves for festivals, fertility rites, etc. Sometimes for war too but that is all together a different subject and topic. Papua New Guinea is a good example. Magellan was surprised at the natives of Tierra del Fuego, who despite the cold weather and snow, were practically naked.

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  John

  Jan 19, 2022

  milwaukeew wrote: [quote] The last time I was at Tybee Island, Georgia, I also saw that. Some of the bikini bottoms showed more butt than not and were light colors so that the vulva was also on display. The barely covered and see through bikini bottoms were calling more attention to the vulvas than not. Some of the girls looked like they were not old enough to drive. I dont think it is okay. The nearby boys were showing obvious excitement, seemed to feel free to grab bare buttocks, and for the boys and girls to learn that is the focus of their interaction is not good. If everyone is naked, then it does not draw attention to any part of the body. However, sexy and sexual display is different. When a girl is wearing something like that in order to call attention to her buttocks, butt crack, and vulva, she is obviously displaying herself for sexual attraction. Either she is trying to have sex or what we used to call a tease. It is not good for girls or boys to think that is the way they should interact. Her sexual offerings should not be the focus. [/quote] I think you've brought this up before. My reaction then was, and still is, that these girls might also have chosen to be as nude as possible at a beach where true nudity is forbidden. I'm sure they also like to feel like they're dressing in style, like the other girls do. It's true that a bikini bra's presence calls more attention to their breasts than a modest one-piece suit does, in the same way that a man's G string calls more attention to his penis than board shorts do. It calls more attention to their breasts than its absence would, for the same reason. But if the absence isn't permitted at that beach, then wearing little is better than wearing a lot. And I don't think that if a girl dresses that way at the beach, a boy or man can assume that she wants to get laid. If the boys come to that conclusion, that only means that they haven't been trained to behave themselves around scantily clad women. If they're grabbing the girl's buttocks, it's is as out of line as if they were doing it anywhere else. Yeah, boys have hormones. If they haven't been accustomed to seeing naked people, then they might react to nudity and near-nudity erotically. But that doesn't give them license to misbehave. And where do boys learn to be gentlemen? From older men and women. It's on us to teach them by word and example.

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  Miranda

  Jan 20, 2022

  For us as naturists, nudity is very common. At most nude campsites or resorts it is quite normal to walk in the sun all day long. Sure you always look at everyone, but the sexual thought is a lot less. Unless something nice comes along, but everyone has that to take a better look. Only the sexual thought is quite different.

  A piece of cloth immediately adds something else to it, the madness of guessing what's underneath. A beautiful sexy bikini or a beautiful sexy thong. Most women find that super sexy to wear themselves. And what the men think is their choice. Nowadays you can also see more women over 40+/60+ wearing a thong on many ordinary beaches in Europe. Now that is not always sexy, but many women can have that own sexy feeling. Let it go. But, it's more and more seen as normal to walk like this. Because everyone feels whether you are confident in your shoes. And nowadays you also see a large number of men who walk like this, so that too is seen more as normal. Wearing is therefore more and more experienced as normal, only there are perverts who have different thoughts about it. So, watch hands off.

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  John

  Jan 21, 2022

  milwaukeew wrote: [quote] I am not calling for swimsuits that hide. Normal swim suits that dont accentuate genitals and buttocks are fine even though when they are wet, they cling and little is really hidden. I am agreeing to the original post that swimwear that accentuate and call attention to genitals and buttocks are part of the problem.[/quote] It's a paradox, isn't it? Victorian swimwear covered everything, and wasn't considered sexy. Modern one-piece swimsuits were considered scandalous when they came out. Then the two-piece swimsuit came out, and one-piece swimsuits were considered modest. Then the bikini came out, and the previous two-piece swimsuits were considered modest. Then the thong bikini with the bras that barely covered the nipples came out, and the bikini was considered modest. And when the swimsuit is entirely eliminated, that's the most scandalous of all, in the minds of society, although the effect in my mind is to largely eliminate the sexual component. Similarly, for men it was first knee-length shorts, then suits cut like underwear briefs, then Speedos, then G-strings that covered the genitalia and nothing else. At each point, there were people crying "That's going too far!" It's all a measure of what community standards are prevailing at the moment.

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  Paul

  Jan 21, 2022

  A life-time ago, I was on a clothing-optional beach in California. [quote] Similarly, for men it was first knee-length shorts, then suits cut like underwear briefs, then Speedos, then G-strings that covered the genitalia and nothing else. At each point, there were people crying "That's going too far!"[/quote] There were two men there from Italy (one of them told me so and they also had strong Italian accents) who were wearing extremely small swimsuits that barely covered the "essentials." My thought was, what's the point? Everyone else is nude. Your swim suit really isn't covering anything. Why do you even have it on? What do you have under there that's so secret? That was all in my head. I asked one of them why he was bothering to wear a swimsuit that was so tiny when he didn't need to wear anything at all. That just made him nervous and I didn't get much of an answer. I dropped it.

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  Tom D

  Jan 21, 2022

  But unlike brief swimwear for women, very few men wear anything more revealing than shorts.

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  nudeyooper

  Jan 21, 2022

  The next question is how many men would wear brief swimwear to the beach if it became a common style? Our 50's- 60's suits were much briefer than today's and they were replaced by suits the became baggier and covered more. And it did not stop with swimwear, think basketball uniforms, and running shorts too.

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  FullSun

  Jan 22, 2022

  [quote]The next question is how many men would wear brief swimwear to the beach if it became a common style? Our 50's- 60's suits were much briefer than today's and they were replaced by suits the became baggier and covered more. And it did not stop with swimwear, think basketball uniforms, and running shorts too.[/quote] I would and I have. I refuse to wear board shorts. When I can Ill wear a tanga cut or in one case even a thong, sometimes a speedo. But, more often my wife will insist on shorts, but the swim shorts I have and will wear have an inseam around 2-3 inches and the liner is cut out.

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  Tom D

  Jan 22, 2022

  [quote]The next question is how many men would wear brief swimwear to the beach if it became a common style? Our 50's- 60's suits were much briefer than today's and they were replaced by suits the became baggier and covered more. And it did not stop with swimwear, think basketball uniforms, and running shorts too.[/quote] I live near 2 universities and many of the young men that I see running are wearing very short shorts, often with split sides, and many are shirtless in warm weather!

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  John

  Jan 22, 2022

  mensasnem wrote: [quote] I asked one of them why he was bothering to wear a swimsuit that was so tiny when he didn't need to wear anything at all. That just made him nervous and I didn't get much of an answer. I dropped it.[/quote] I think that maybe he was interpreting your comment to mean "Hey, let me see your dick!" and assumed that he was being propositioned. When two cultures meet, there's always the opportunity for misunderstandings like that. I can see one reason for wearing those tiny swimsuits: they provide some testicular support for guys who need it, for the same reason we used to wear jock straps under our athletic wear. But I think that the public demand for wearing things like board shorts comes from the fact that such swimwear tends to conceal the size of a man's penis, and you can't deny that this is a huge obsession for some folks. (Look at all the forum discussions, and the groups, and you'll see that this is the case.) So the people who dictate swimwear standards at public beaches probably want to head off this concern in advance, and make all men feel welcome regardless of their endowments.

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  Paul

  Jan 24, 2022

  [quote]I think that maybe he was interpreting your comment to mean "Hey, let me see your dick!"[/quote] I'm pretty certain that was the case. And, as I said, I dropped it. I was pretty new to nudism and clothing-optional beaches at the time. I did not considered myself a nudist then. It just seemed really odd to me that these two guys were having a great time playing on the beach with all of these naked guys and they were, themselves, essentially nude -- but not quite. The only other guys on the beach who were not nude were the perverts who sat off at a distance and enjoyed the free, live porn. All the other guys with swimsuits on were on other beaches. I was young and new to nudism. I was just curious as to why they'd be on a clothing-optional beach wearing something so tiny. They didn't fit the established groupings. Today, of course, it wouldn't occur to me to say anything about it.

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  Tom D

  Jan 24, 2022

  [quote]A life-time ago, I was on a clothing-optional beach in California. Similarly, for men it was first knee-length shorts, then suits cut like underwear briefs, then Speedos, then G-strings that covered the genitalia and nothing else. At each point, there were people crying "That's going too far!" There were two men there from Italy (one of them told me so and they also had strong Italian accents) who were wearing extremely small swimsuits that barely covered the "essentials." My thought was, what's the point? Everyone else is nude. Your swim suit really isn't covering anything. Why do you even have it on? What do you have under there that's so secret? That was all in my head. I asked one of them why he was bothering to wear a swimsuit that was so tiny when he didn't need to wear anything at all. That just made him nervous and I didn't get much of an answer. I dropped it.[/quote] Perhaps it was because swim suits that small are not allowed anywhere except on a nude beach. Gunnison is the only legal nude beach in NJ. While most of the people there are nude, there are some topless women and people of both genders wearing g-strings. I would assume that it is because that is what they like to wear at the beach, and no beaches in NJ allow anything that revealing. New York does allow women to be topless at parks and beaches, but very few are.

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  Paul

  Jan 24, 2022

  This was in California. [quote]Perhaps it was because swim suits that small are not allowed anywhere except on a nude beach.[/quote] Highly unlikely that it would have been a problem on a textile beach.

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  Tom D

  Jan 24, 2022

  [quote]This was in California. Perhaps it was because swim suits that small are not allowed anywhere except on a nude beach. Highly unlikely that it would have been a problem on a textile beach.[/quote] So California is tolerant of g-strings on clothing required beaches? I know California is a liberal state. NJ is also in many ways, but attire is not one of them.

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  Paul

  Jan 24, 2022

  This was back in the 80s. I don't know what the law was, but I would be very surprised to find that such a swimsuit would have been any problem on a textile beach -- the essential bits were covered. [quote]So California is tolerant of g-strings on clothing required beaches? I know California is a liberal state. NJ is also in many ways, but attire is not one of them.[/quote] Pretty certain that even now, you can be nude in State Parks and on State Beaches as long as no one complains.

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  Tom D

  Jan 24, 2022

  [quote]This was back in the 80s. I don't know what the law was, but I would be very surprised to find that such a swimsuit would have been any problem on a textile beach -- the essential bits were covered. So California is tolerant of g-strings on clothing required beaches? I know California is a liberal state. NJ is also in many ways, but attire is not one of them. Pretty certain that even now, you can be nude in State Parks and on State Beaches as long as no one complains.[/quote] At one time there were areas of state parks and beaches in NJ where nudity was tolerated, but not officially sanctioned. That ended some 25 years ago. At one of my high school reunions, one of the park rangers whose duties included enforcing the new policy was there, along with a few of the people upon whom he had enforced it.

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  Paul

  Jan 24, 2022

  A great first step would be to decriminalize ALL victimless crime.

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  totaltanjim

  Jan 29, 2022

  A lot of people believe that California is nudist friendly due to our reputation of being a liberal state and our generally good weather.
  However, nothing could be further from the truth.

  I believe it was in the early 90's that California passed a law banning nudity on all state land.
  Russ Cahill, the director of the California Department of Parks and Recreation at the time, put in the policy that any area that had a history of nude use that nudists would only be sited if there was a complaint and they refused to cover up. This became known as the Cahill policy.
  Unfortunately future directors have decided to ignore that policy so officially there are no state lands where nudity is allowed. That is not to say that nudity is no longer occurring on state land it is just that at any time without warning that could be stopped.

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