Attention to everybody who`s a member of a group!

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• ME

  Member

  Oct 26, 2008

  Hey swift, you obviously have seen the three, ok, so one is a group of 2 people, scratch that, .....the two groups I have started, and you probably saw my post...."the silent majority".....It's like trying to herd cats....but thanks, come on over and post a challenge on one of mine, I dare ya!!!! (er, that is an intelectual attempt to beg, I know you can tell....lol)
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  Jerry

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  Philfreeeuk

  Oct 26, 2008

  You're absolutely right (again! hehe) Swifty, people seem to have a strange desire to join lots of groups, similar to the way they have a desire to collect hundreds of profile pics and pretend they are friends.
  Beats me, but I dare say there is an underlying physiological reason for it.
  There is a fundamental floor that encourages inactivity in a group, in as much as the members are not notified of new post in the group, and you can't do a bulk mail to all the members at once, so no one knows what's happening unless they go to the trouble to check on all their groups regularly. The only way round it that I can think of, is for the group owner to create a group profile and get everyone in the group to befriend it, so that they could then send a bulletin to their members all at once (from that profile) to advise them of any new activity.

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• SW

  SwifthawkOriginal Poster

  Oct 26, 2008

  [quote]Hey swift, you obviously have seen the three, ok, so one is a group of 2 people, scratch that, .....the two groups I have started, and you probably saw my post...."the silent majority".....It's like trying to herd cats....but thanks, come on over and post a challenge on one of mine, I dare ya!!!! (er, that is an intelectual attempt to beg, I know you can tell....lol) Thanks Jerry[/quote]    lol...Sorry JR, I should've given you props, as I saw your post ont he 40 something group and you inspired me to post this. lol...I'll be happy to join your group in about 4 years.

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• SW

  SwifthawkOriginal Poster

  Oct 27, 2008

  [quote]You're absolutely right (again! hehe) Swifty, people seem to have a strange desire to join lots of groups, similar to the way they have a desire to collect hundreds of profile pics and pretend they are friends. Beats me, but I dare say there is an underlying physiological reason for it. There is a fundamental floor that encourages inactivity in a group, in as much as the members are not notified of new post in the group, and you can't do a bulk mail to all the members at once, so no one knows what's happening unless they go to the trouble to check on all their groups regularly. The only way round it that I can think of, is for the group owner to create a group profile and get everyone in the group to befriend it, so that they could then send a bulletin to their members all at once (from that profile) to advise them of any new activity. [/quote]    Yeah, it is a bit too bad that there is no real notification when there's a post in the group you are in.  However, it's not that hard to find your group in the list, since it's in alphabetical order.  It's not like this site is hard to navigate and it's not slow, so really, there isn't any excuse not to check the forums.  It takes two seconds and you're done.   I do like your group profile idea and I think it would work great for those groups that are based on a locality.  Would be a wonderful way to post whatever special events that may be coming your way.  Have you thought about doing it for your group?   There are only two groups that I'm really active in, that's the Canadian Nudist Group & the MALE group.  As these groups are really about communicating, the profile idea probably wouldn't work.  Aside from JR's inspiration, one of the reasons I did this thread is due to the inacdtivity on the Canadian Nudist group.  Being a Canadian away from home, I can't tell you how excited I was finding this group thinking it would be a great way to communicate with my fellow country men.   However, while there are new members there, the group is dead as and I have to say that I'm more than a little frustrated with it.  I did a post similar to this in that forum and it took almost a week to get even 1 response and during that time only 5 people looked at it.  Ofcourse I do understand that people have a life outside of cyberspace and do not expect people to be online all the time (or even the amount of time that I'm on lol), but c'mon, there's 30 some odd members there, surely you all can't be busy! lol

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  Philfreeeuk

  Oct 27, 2008

  [quote][quote]You're absolutely right (again! hehe) Swifty, people seem to have a strange desire to join lots of groups, similar to the way they have a desire to collect hundreds of profile pics and pretend they are friends. Beats me, but I dare say there is an underlying physiological reason for it. There is a fundamental floor that encourages inactivity in a group, in as much as the members are not notified of new post in the group, and you can't do a bulk mail to all the members at once, so no one knows what's happening unless they go to the trouble to check on all their groups regularly. The only way round it that I can think of, is for the group owner to create a group profile and get everyone in the group to befriend it, so that they could then send a bulletin to their members all at once (from that profile) to advise them of any new activity. [/quote]     Yeah, it is a bit too bad that there is no real notification when there's a post in the group you are in.  However, it's not that hard to find your group in the list, since it's in alphabetical order.  It's not like this site is hard to navigate and it's not slow, so really, there isn't any excuse not to check the forums.  It takes two seconds and you're done.   I do like your group profile idea and I think it would work great for those groups that are based on a locality.  Would be a wonderful way to post whatever special events that may be coming your way.  Have you thought about doing it for your group?   There are only two groups that I'm really active in, that's the Canadian Nudist Group & the MALE group.  As these groups are really about communicating, the profile idea probably wouldn't work.  Aside from JR's inspiration, one of the reasons I did this thread is due to the inacdtivity on the Canadian Nudist group.  Being a Canadian away from home, I can't tell you how excited I was finding this group thinking it would be a great way to communicate with my fellow country men.   However, while there are new members there, the group is dead as and I have to say that I'm more than a little frustrated with it.  I did a post similar to this in that forum and it took almost a week to get even 1 response and during that time only 5 people looked at it.  Ofcourse I do understand that people have a life outside of cyberspace and do not expect people to be online all the time (or even the amount of time that I'm on lol), but c'mon, there's 30 some odd members there, surely you all can't be busy! lol[/quote]  I don't know If it's just that everyone is in a hurry or a bit lazy or both, or a shyness for speaking publicly, If you think about it, it's only a tiny proportion of the membership that actually participate, talk about the silent majority. And we all know how there is a tendency to -not- read profiles properly before hitting the invite button. I have clearly stated in my group description that the group is for people who reside in the s/east, but I still get requests from outside:( It's not hard to check if you only join -a few- groups (if you remember) but, if you join too many, it would be a pain, especially if there's no activity. Did you see my blog (at the bottom of my profile) listing in the title, the groups that I have joined. If you open it, you will find a link to each one. If everyone did that it would be a quick way to see their interests and it's a quick way to access your own groups to check on them. Yes I think I may create a group profile one day, all members could have access and send their own bulletins to the group, if that would be acceptable to TT1, and if they could be bothered to do it. But I'm also suffering, due to the apathy, I have only 9 mebers, I've noticed that there are quite a few in the UK group from the s/east, but they have not joined the s/east group, so I think I need to find them again and send an invite. Also there are quite a few in the UK group from OTHER COUNTRIES, Doesn't that defeat the object?

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• SW

  SwifthawkOriginal Poster

  Oct 27, 2008

  [quote][quote][/quote] I don't know If it's just that everyone is in a hurry or a bit lazy or both, or a shyness for speaking publicly, If you think about it, it's only a tiny proportion of the membership that actually participate, talk about the silent majority. And we all know how there is a tendency to -not- read profiles properly before hitting the invite button. I have clearly stated in my group description that the group is for people who reside in the s/east, but I still get requests from outside:( It's not hard to check if you only join -a few- groups (if you remember) but, if you join too many, it would be a pain, especially if there's no activity. Did you see my blog (at the bottom of my profile) listing in the title, the groups that I have joined. If you open it, you will find a link to each one. If everyone did that it would be a quick way to see their interests and it's a quick way to access your own groups to check on them. Yes I think I may create a group profile one day, all members could have access and send their own bulletins to the group, if that would be acceptable to TT1, and if they could be bothered to do it. But I'm also suffering, due to the apathy, I have only 9 mebers, I've noticed that there are quite a few in the UK group from the s/east, but they have not joined the s/east group, so I think I need to find them again and send an invite. Also there are quite a few in the UK group from OTHER COUNTRIES, Doesn't that defeat the object?[/quote]   Well, it could be that they are expats like me trying to hook up with fellow countrymen.  At least that's the way I look at it when a foreigner is in another country's group.   Yeah, I know that it lists the groups you are in in the profile, but mine don't show for some reason.  lol...with my problems in the chatroom and things appearing properly in my profile, I'm begining to think the site doesn't like me. ;)   I know what you mean about the silent majority and was thinking about that the other day.  There are 3,000 plus members here and I've seen only a handful of them on the forums and the chatroom.  Makes me wonder why they are even here? lol...I suppose that everybody joins these things for their own reasons, but I would think that more would participate in the site.  They could be afraid of speaking publicly about things and I can understand that to a degree, but why?  It's the internet, it's not like anybody is going to actually bite you.  Besides, this is an adult site and for the most part, people act like adults.  Those that don't are usually gone realitively quickly anyways. lol

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  Philfreeeuk

  Oct 27, 2008

  [quote][quote][quote][/quote]  I don't know If it's just that everyone is in a hurry or a bit lazy or both, or a shyness for speaking publicly, If you think about it, it's only a tiny proportion of the membership that actually participate, talk about the silent majority. And we all know how there is a tendency to -not- read profiles properly before hitting the invite button. I have clearly stated in my group description that the group is for people who reside in the s/east, but I still get requests from outside:( It's not hard to check if you only join -a few- groups (if you remember) but, if you join too many, it would be a pain, especially if there's no activity. Did you see my blog (at the bottom of my profile) listing in the title, the groups that I have joined. If you open it, you will find a link to each one. If everyone did that it would be a quick way to see their interests and it's a quick way to access your own groups to check on them. Yes I think I may create a group profile one day, all members could have access and send their own bulletins to the group, if that would be acceptable to TT1, and if they could be bothered to do it. But I'm also suffering, due to the apathy, I have only 9 mebers, I've noticed that there are quite a few in the UK group from the s/east, but they have not joined the s/east group, so I think I need to find them again and send an invite. Also there are quite a few in the UK group from OTHER COUNTRIES, Doesn't that defeat the object?[/quote]   Well, it could be that they are expats like me trying to hook up with fellow countrymen.  At least that's the way I look at it when a foreigner is in another country's group.   Yeah, I know that it lists the groups you are in in the profile, but mine don't show for some reason.  lol...with my problems in the chatroom and things appearing properly in my profile, I'm begining to think the site doesn't like me. ;)   I know what you mean about the silent majority and was thinking about that the other day.  There are 3,000 plus members here and I've seen only a handful of them on the forums and the chatroom.  Makes me wonder why they are even here? lol...I suppose that everybody joins these things for their own reasons, but I would think that more would participate in the site.  They could be afraid of speaking publicly about things and I can understand that to a degree, but why?  It's the internet, it's not like anybody is going to actually bite you.  Besides, this is an adult site and for the most part, people act like adults.  Those that don't are usually gone realitively quickly anyways. lol[/quote] I think the expat thing's cool as long as it's clear in your profile. Your profile only lists the groups that you have created, NOT those that you have joined, that's why I listed them in a blog.

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• ME

  Member

  Oct 27, 2008

  [quote][quote][/quote] Makes me wonder why they are even here? lol...I suppose that everybody joins these things for their own reasons, but I would think that more would participate in the site.  They could be afraid of speaking publicly about things and I can understand that to a degree, but why?  It's the internet, it's not like anybody is going to actually bite you.  Besides, this is an adult site and for the most part, people act like adults.  Those that don't are usually gone realitively quickly anyways. lol[/quote] I have thought about all those groups, that sit idle! I have thought about joining some but no one will answer! I have thought about all the 3000 Plus and still counting members TT1 told us about! I have thought about all those new members and I can't even get a TN cert completed that is pending! I have thought about all the Forum topics and have to go all the way to the end to read it (Last post first)! I have thought about all the ones becoming members with out a profile and I still got a Cert STILL Pending! I have thought about how this site is lacking the things we need fixed, and the lack therof! I have though about how maybe a half dz of us could put together a To - Do List! I have thought about the 3K Plus Members and just a mere handful posting! (Anything) I guess I have just had too much time for thinking ( see what happens when it gets cold out )

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• SW

  SwifthawkOriginal Poster

  Oct 27, 2008

  [quote][quote][/quote] Your profile only lists the groups that you have created, NOT those that you have joined, that's why I listed them in a blog.[/quote]   OOohhh, you are so smart, thanks Phil! lol

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• SW

  SwifthawkOriginal Poster

  Oct 27, 2008

  [quote][quote][quote][/quote]  Makes me wonder why they are even here? lol...I suppose that everybody joins these things for their own reasons, but I would think that more would participate in the site.  They could be afraid of speaking publicly about things and I can understand that to a degree, but why?  It's the internet, it's not like anybody is going to actually bite you.  Besides, this is an adult site and for the most part, people act like adults.  Those that don't are usually gone realitively quickly anyways. lol[/quote] I have thought about all those groups, that sit idle! I have thought about joining some but no one will answer! I have thought about all the 3000 Plus and still counting members TT1 told us about! I have thought about all those new members and I can't even get a TN cert completed that is pending! I have thought about all the Forum topics and have to go all the way to the end to read it (Last post first)! I have thought about all the ones becoming members with out a profile and I still got a Cert STILL Pending! I have thought about how this site is lacking the things we need fixed, and the lack therof! I have though about how maybe a half dz of us could put together a To - Do List! I have thought about the 3K Plus Members and just a mere handful posting! (Anything) I guess I have just had too much time for thinking ( see what happens when it gets cold out )[/quote]   Al, what are you trying to do to get certified?  Are you waiting for him to see you on cam or are you sending in pics?  If you are waiting for him to see you on cam, he's kind of made it pretty clear that he does not have the time to make an apperance here all that often, so you may be waiting awhile. lol   But if you are sending in pics, I don't understand what problems you are having.  Just take a clear clothed photo of you and your wife with the sinage and another clear nude photo of the two of you with the same sign.  When I did it, I got certified within 24 hours and didn't have any problem.

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• SW

  SwifthawkOriginal Poster

  Oct 27, 2008

  [quote]Re certification, I have queried this before with no answer, not that I am interested in getting certified myself. But what is the point of the nude photo with sign ?   Is it to show that you are capable of getting nude or what ??!  Surely a clothed one suffices !  If folk want to be nude,, up to them, but all you need is one photo with sign.[/quote]    Unigirl, I agree with you, as I would only like to see if people are real.  However, the name of the site is True Nudists and they are looking for verification that people are real nudists and not just real people.

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• SW

  SwifthawkOriginal Poster

  Oct 27, 2008

  [quote][quote][quote]Re certification, I have queried this before with no answer, not that I am interested in getting certified myself. But what is the point of the nude photo with sign ?   Is it to show that you are capable of getting nude or what ??!  Surely a clothed one suffices !  If folk want to be nude,, up to them, but all you need is one photo with sign.[/quote]      Unigirl, I agree with you, as I would only like to see if people are real.  However, the name of the site is True Nudists and they are looking for verification that people are real nudists and not just real people.[/quote] So how the heck does providing a nude photo ( just for admins benefit ) prove that you are a real nudist ?  It proves that you have the ability to provide a picture of youreself in the nude, slightly different ![/quote]   Unigirl, it proves that you are willing to at least shed your clothing. Ofcourse, being online there is very little one can do to prove that one is a true nudist.  You can only work with what technology is availible.  Too many sites have textiles coming on to perv at the nudists, and while it may not prove you are a nudist, at least it shows you are willing to show some skin.  Would you have a better suggestion to show that someone is a true nudist?

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• SW

  SwifthawkOriginal Poster

  Oct 27, 2008

  [quote]You are constantly supportive of admin, swifthawk, which is very loyal, but....[/quote]    Unigirl, ofcourse I'm supportive of the admin, I'm grateful that they are providing a quality site fee of charge to me.  So far they haven't done anything to warrent me not to give them my support.  Do I think things can be done differnetly, of course I do.  And one day when I think they will have the time to listen and I have the time to post, I will post those thoughts.

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• SW

  SwifthawkOriginal Poster

  Oct 27, 2008

  [quote][quote][quote]Re certification, I have queried this before with no answer, not that I am interested in getting certified myself. But what is the point of the nude photo with sign ?   Is it to show that you are capable of getting nude or what ??!  Surely a clothed one suffices !  If folk want to be nude,, up to them, but all you need is one photo with sign.[/quote]      Unigirl, I agree with you, as I would only like to see if people are real.  However, the name of the site is True Nudists and they are looking for verification that people are real nudists and not just real people.[/quote] So how the heck does providing a nude photo ( just for admins benefit ) prove that you are a real nudist ?  It proves that you have the ability to provide a picture of youreself in the nude, slightly different ![/quote] Unigirl, it proves that you are willing to at least shed your clothing. Ofcourse, being online there is very little one can do to prove that one is a true nudist.  You can only work with what technology is availible.  Too many sites have textiles coming on to perv at the nudists, and while it may not prove you are a nudist, at least it shows you are willing to show some skin.  Would you have a better suggestion to show that someone is a true nudist?

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• SW

  SwifthawkOriginal Poster

  Oct 27, 2008

  [quote]I would admit, yes it is difficult, and no I don't have a better idea.  And, actually the photo with pic at least basically proves that this person is you. But, seriously, asking for both clothed and nude photos strikes me as pretty pointless.  I still say that one will do. Indeed, maybe the fact that folk are asked for a nude photo is limiting the number of folk seeking to be true nudist certified ( despite admin's best assurances as to what happens to these pics ) I quite honrstly think it is absolutely unnecessary and proves nothing.  I am not trying to have a go here.  Believe me, I appreciate what is involved in administering a naturist site, even when part of a team, let alone aparently as one person.  Naturis site, 3000 odd members, one admin, not to be envied ! ,      [/quote]  I have to agree with you, Uni, it does strike me as more than a bit redundant to have both sets of pics. lol...I would imagine it's one of those thoughts that only make sense to the person who thought of them at the time.  I also think you are right that there would be more certified users out there if they didn't have to shed their clothes to do it.  From what I've seen of TT1's posts on the subject, he has seen his share of sites that were dominated by wannabe nudists and wanted a site only for nudists, not pervs.  Probably at the time he did all this it made sense to him and that's why he went the way that he did.  TT1 does strike me as a resonable guy and I would be willing to bet that in time he may rethink his thoughts on verifcation.  Like you and many users on here, I feel that it with the net full of fakes, it is more important to prove someone is real than a nudist.  Hopefully one day he will realize that as well and make the nudity optional for verifcation.  Until then, we can only go with the status quoe.

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• ME

  Member

  Oct 27, 2008

  Well, let me take a stab at this.  Now this is only my thoughts on the situation, so I cannot say this is really what the admin had in mind.

  Ok, you say you are a real person and a nudist.  Well, I guess this is where we put our money where our mouth is.  First, lets sign up to show we are actually real people.  Hold a sign in front of you, clothed, so that we see a real person.  No photoshop, because we actually want people who are real.

  Ok, second, now that we have established that you are a real person, lets see if you are a nudist.  Because if you are a nudist then you have already been nude in front of tons of people, some nude and some not and you're more likely to be able to stand with a sign in your birthday suit and smile for the camera.  You most likely have learned some of the basic nudist precepts such as: body acceptance, not just other people's body's, but your own as well.  Also that we are all pretty much made equally and there's not much that a real nudist is going to be surprized about because by now we have seen so many naked people that it's just another naked person, like the way a medical doctor becomes de-sensitized.   So if you are a real nudist, then this whole situation probably should not be too traumatic.

  Now for a final point.  Uni, I don't mean to pick on you, but, you don't even have a profile pic. I mean, you could at least be creative and stick a hand in front of the camera and post that.  I have it all out there.  If you look at my profile, well, there's not much left to the imagination.  Which is what real nudism is all about.  "It's hard to put on the dog, when you are standing there in the buff."  Nudism is a great equalizer.

  Now, we are takling about a web site, so the short and the long of it is either you trust the admin/creator and sign up under the existing precepts, or you don't.  The only way currently to show yourself as a "true nudist" is to send in the pics or try to catch the admin online.

  Now for the hardball.  I think it is fairly obvious that I am a true nudist.  I am known on multiple web sites, not just as a member, but as someone who the admins have actually met at a nudist gathering.  I have several places that I have frequented, I have met with one couple on this very web site - in my home on a nudist resort.  I have extended offers to others on this web site to come visit to the resort at which I live, and my father lives.  So lets presume for a moment that I am a true nudist.  The question I have for the people who are balking at certification is:  If you are so afraid that one nude pic of you is going to get loose and ruin your life because you once attested to being a nudist, how on earth are you going to deal with being in public at any of the gatherings where there could be any number of people around seeing you in the nude and might even have a cell phone with a camera on it.

  I think the true nudist certification issue has has been beaten like a dead horse and now it's spilling into almost every thread on the forum.  I guess from my perspective it's time to either embrace the requirements that the administration put forth or say that it is not for you and move on.  I hate to be so harsh, but tonight I was reminded through an innocent request to a person who's profile and pic are questionable at best that politely asking what that person wanted out of a friend on this site it tantamount to sticking your head forward, and smiling while waiting for the punch in the mouth.  (ChristineH)  So please forgive me, I don't mean to take my frustration out on Uni in particular, but I think that the bulk of the people need to make a decision.  Either embrace what requirements are available, or move on.

  I recently had to take a comeplete drivers test to receive a driver's license in this new state that I just moved to.  I didn't like that I was singled out and made to do the whole thing over again, but I wanted a driver's license here and you know what, I did what I had to do to get what I wanted.  I muttered under my breath alot.  But in the end I did it.

  I would like to see us all friends and move along to the next level of social nudism.  I personally would like to meet more people from this site and more true nudists.  Can we agree that the current certification process is not to everyone's liking and move on?  I don't think the admins are going to change it no matter what we say.

  Thanks

  Jerry

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• SW

  SwifthawkOriginal Poster

  Oct 28, 2008

  LOL!  I Think we've just been told!
  
  Seriously JR, well said and for the most part I agree with you.  The whole certificaton process dicussion has been beaten to death and it would be nice if we moved on from it.  Like you said, either accept it or move on.

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• ME

  Member

  Oct 28, 2008

  [quote][quote][quote]Re certification, I have queried this before with no answer, not that I am interested in getting certified myself. But what is the point of the nude photo with sign ?   Is it to show that you are capable of getting nude or what ??!  Surely a clothed one suffices !  If folk want to be nude,, up to them, but all you need is one photo with sign.[/quote]      Unigirl, I agree with you, as I would only like to see if people are real.  However, the name of the site is True Nudists and they are looking for verification that people are real nudists and not just real people.[/quote] So how the heck does providing a nude photo ( just for admins benefit ) prove that you are a real nudist ?  It proves that you have the ability to provide a picture of youreself in the nude, slightly different ![/quote] I totally agree with Unigirl, after all we do get nude to take a shower or bath so really like she says what does it really prove?  And Swift I am confused as to who we are, are we real nudist or are we not just Real People, I always thought Real People could be Real Nudists and Real Nudist were Real People.  Think we are all real people, but to me a "Real Nudist" are real people who enjoy being Nude with other Real People (Nudists).  Now I am confused.

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• SW

  SwifthawkOriginal Poster

  Oct 28, 2008

  lol...Al, now I'm confused!lol...I don't know if you're joking or if you're serious.  If it's a serious question, I'll be happy to try and explain it to you.

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• ME

  Member

  Oct 28, 2008

  [quote]lol...Al, now I'm confused!lol...I don't know if you're joking or if you're serious.  If it's a serious question, I'll be happy to try and explain it to you.[/quote]  Let's call it a senior moment and let it go at that

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• ME

  Member

  Oct 28, 2008

  Wow, now I need translation. :)
  Sorry about coming off so heavy on that one, and thanks for being understanding Uni, and the rest.
  - Jerry

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• ME

  Member

  Oct 28, 2008

  [quote]Wow, now I need translation. :) Sorry about coming off so heavy on that one, and thanks for being understanding Uni, and the rest.  - Jerry[/quote]  I thought you summed it up very well Jerry. And Swift I know I am a real person and a real nudist! And Unigirl, really think you need a picture so we know who we are talking to?

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• SW

  SwifthawkOriginal Poster

  Oct 28, 2008

  Unigirl, you have to hit enter twice to properly space between paragraphs.  No idea why that is, but it is what it is. lol

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• ME

  Member

  Oct 28, 2008

  [quote]Unigirl, you have to hit enter twice to properly space between paragraphs.  No idea why that is, but it is what it is. lol[/quote]  Ah, so that's how it works?   Your just too smart Swift, now figure out how we can get the last post first, this is driving me nuts.

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