I do not believe in them. It is an either/or situation. Either the beach is textile and you should not be nude or it is nudist and you should be nude. Mixing these two never works as everybody starts feeling out of place.
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FullSunApr 6, 2014I disagree. CO is a great way to introduce those that are unsure. It also provides a place where couples can go when one is willing to lose the clothes and the other is not yet ready. I have even met a couple where both are nudist but because of recent surgery the wife had to stay covered to protect the surgery site.
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Bill BowserApr 6, 2014Clothing optional is unquestionably better. Freedom to choose what, if any, clothes to wear obviously is superior to being required to comply with a requirement imposed by some local authority. Just as the textiles need to stop being concerned about what nudists are (or are not) wearing, we nudists need to stop being concerned about what the textiles are wearing. It doesn't matter. Find something more important to worry about.
ReactReply - MEMemberApr 6, 2014
+ 2 for clothing optional beaches. It all washes out. We go to Gunnison which is c/o and out of 3K people on a busy weekend you might see 2 or 3 with a bathing costume on. Usually a young female testing the waters so to speak.
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StevieLornaApr 6, 2014We holiday in Fuerteventura where all beaches are C/O, and it works very well.ReactReply - MA
macnudeApr 7, 2014Imagine the public outcry if a textile beach was suddenly made nude only by law, to say nothing of the legality of requiring those attending the beach to be nude. Relaxing existing rules against nudity and allowing everyone to decide for themselves has a better chance of working. Then, those opposed to nudity could simply avoid the beach but could not claim that they were banned from the beach.ReactReply - DE
DesertRatApr 7, 2014There is a lot to be said for CO beaches. Even true nudists don't want to be 100% nude 100% of the time. Some times we have to put on a shirt not to get too much sun. A lot of people, who are not nudists, go to the beach to accompany someone who likes being nude. I don't have problem with the beach goers who are not nude but respect those who are. The problems I have are with the gawkers, exhibitionists and the pervs.ReactReply - MI
MitchApr 7, 2014Perhaps they could make the clothing optional be sort of a buffer zone between a clothed section and a nude section, and also makes for a convenient place to disrobe whilst heading to the nude area.
A thought...
Stay Naked!ReactReply - PApavelOriginal PosterApr 9, 2014
Hello again!I would like to return to the topic and elaborate on what I have written.Of course, I do not insist people to be 100% nude all the time! It just isn't possible. But my point is that beaches should be clearly MARKED as this or that so as everybody can decide what is good for them. I think the CO beaches do not make things clear and create a confusion. I can tell that from my experience. One goes to the beach in the morning and strip naked. But soon come other people and they do not strip and as their numbers increase, this person becomes the only one and people srtart giggling and pointing at him or her. And in the end this person puts on the swimming trunks as well.I think this is exactly why many people are afraid to test being nude: they are afraid that they will become a laughing stock. And they give up trying altogether.If a beach is clearly marked as a nudist one, even though there may be someone clothed, things are clear and people are more relaxed and willing to try it.Let me tell you my own story. I would have never dared strip on a textile or a CO beach. But I have relatively easy stripped at the marked nudist beach where everyone was naked. This was my first nudist experience. And I think most people are like that. This is human psychology.
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MikeApr 9, 2014I find the suggestion and the example simply amazing.but then, i am equally amazed at nudists who demonsrate little or no tolerance for others.
Surely naturism should be about tolerance with that being one of the important characteristics to define us and distinguish us from intolerant prudes. To suggest that nudity be compulsory goes contrary to the tolerance that we should practice. Yet have known of such intolerance as it seems to more apparent in some,long term diehard nudists who have somehow forgotten their own journey.My
vote would clearly be for CO beachesReactReply - TI
TimApr 9, 2014We, being in a lifestyle movement that is clearly a minority in society as a whole, should be overjoyed to have MORE clothing optional opportunities. I love the concept of C/O beaches and other areas. We need more of them. To me, there is nothing confusing at all.
ReactReply - MAmako09Apr 11, 2014I personally never wear any clothes at clothing optional beaches, but there have been on occasion where my wife would wear a G-string during her period, so I agree with the choice. As for having lurkers walking the beach oogling at the naked people that is part of going nude.
On the other hand I have also been to textile beaches where we have been oogled in our G-strings even worse that when we were nude, and we have went nude on secluded textile beaches numbers of times where people just walked by and didn't have an issue with us being nude, we have even held conversations while being nude to textiles on a secluded beachReactReply - SUsunnmaxxApr 15, 2014I don't mind giving the women a chance to partially cover when they feel cold or just want to. I wish more were naked too.ReactReply
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TravellingbizguyApr 15, 2014I agree that CO beaches gives couples a chance to go out and enjoy when 1 is a nudist and the other is not. When and if the partner decides to join the freedom of being nude, they will have the choice.ReactReply - FRFreecospiritApr 15, 2014I agree with the general view in that CO is a more welcoming environment than mandatory nude. It allows couples or groups where not everyone is comfortable nude to remain together. My experience is that most people on CO beaches tend to be nude anyway and being nude amongst others some of whom may never go nude really doesn't matter as long the non-nudists don't care either. Many of us nervous to start with decide to go nude for the first on CO beaches and then never look back.
Having found that being nude is so much nicer if I know that a beach is CO I will readily go nude even in a minority of one simply because I know it is accepted there. Even official nude beaches are largely CO because people often walk by so; beaches are public and if you never don't want to be seen nude by non-nudists stick to a resort or club.ReactReply - SK
skinpowerApr 16, 2014Clothed on a CO beach is like going to a fine French restaurant and ordering a glass of water and a toothpick.
ReactReply - PApavelOriginal PosterApr 19, 2014
The previous message explains it excellently! This was exactly my point!
ReactReply - FUFullSunApr 19, 2014[quote]CO beaches would be all well and fine if TEXTILE beaches became CO, but that NEVER happens. It's always the nude beaches that become CO and that simply means there is one less nude beach.
[/quote]Very interesting statement. In all the discussions around CO vs nude this had not been brought up and I had not thought about it. I'm not sure it 'always' means there is one less beach you can go to nude but the trend is there. Thus the key is to reverse the trend and get textile beaches to become CO.ReactReply - MEMemberApr 19, 2014
I'm afraid that will never happen. So why should nude beaches become CO? If there was a SINGLE textile beach in the USA that created a CO section, I'd be open to the concept. Otherwise it's simply a way of textiles to overtake a traditional nude beach. Nude is nude. If you want to go to a beach and wear your clothes, 99.9% of the beaches are there for you to use. When you are ready for a nude beach, come on down. Otherwise, stay where you are comfortable and we'll do the same. I don't think that is asking too much.
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I'm using "you" in the general sense. I'm not addressing anyone on this site ;-).
ReactReply - DEDesertRatApr 21, 2014The internet has probably done a lot to hurt nude beaches. The nude beaches were easier to find so more people went there for many reasons other than being nude. Nude beaches are all public beaches so a person could not be forced to disrobe. Only a private location can enforce a no clothing rule. The secret is out on a lot of these places and there's very little we nudists can do about it except to visit the beaches and continue to be nude.ReactReply
- MEMemberApr 26, 2014[quote]The internet has probably done a lot to hurt nude beaches. The nude beaches were easier to find so more people went there for many reasons other than being nude. Nude beaches are all public beaches so a person could not be forced to disrobe. Only a private location can enforce a no clothing rule. The secret is out on a lot of these places and there's very little we nudists can do about it except to visit the beaches and continue to be nude.
[/quote]This is true. The internet and digital cameras EVERYWHERE (we are now starting to see drones hovering above nude beaches) have both contributed to the loss of nude beaches. Unfortunately, many nudists, especially women, just decide it's not worth the effort and stop coming, and then a beach quickly starts its decline into textilism. What is really discouraging is college kids. SLO must be a very liberal college, like most, and yet the students are SO uptight these days. What the hell happened? Aren't your college years when you break out and try new things?ReactReply - LA
Lakeman221Oct 26, 2014I say make ALL beaches EVERYWHERE, WORLDWIDE 100% nudist only beaches. If you want to enjoy the beach, learn to enjoy it NUDE. Anyone who has ever been nude on a nude beach knows how much more enjoyable it is. So this would make the ones who like to go in a swimsuit, be more willing to give it a shot at being nude just to be on a beach again. Then they would see it's not really that bad. This would apply to all beaches along the coast, as well as any on inland lakes and rivers. If you set foot on a beach, you better be undressing within the first ten feet or face getting arrested and thrown in jail. Even Law Enforcement showing up at the beach to arrest someone for non-compliance would have to be nude after getting 10 feet onto the beach. If more people were to give outdoor nudism a try then the ranks of nudists would increase exponentially, and it would get to be more socially acceptable planet wide.
If your going to dream, I say dream BIG.ReactReply - TRTravellingbizguyOct 27, 2014I was at Hanlans in Toronto a few times this past summer of 2014. On the Clothing Optional side, it appeared that on the few weekends I went there were likely 50% nude and 50% textile. During the week, the ratio was more nude but still no where near 100%.ReactReply
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ManOfWicklowOct 27, 2014Clothing optional beaches are the easiest way for anyone trying nudism for the first time and anyone who has a problem with that,should seek medical help.ReactReply