Clothing Optional or Clothing Not Allowed??? Any Preferance? .

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  Erik Natams

  Jan 19, 2017

  I totally agree. And I guess all member of this site will agree. Some decades ago I remember at FKK camping sites the rule to be naked over a certain temperature was enforced.
  Times have changed.

  And I see in Europe more and more textile people on official naturist beaches. I guess this means we can go to their beaches as well in our way. Although I am still too chicken to really do that...

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  ManOfWicklow

  Jan 19, 2017

  So anyone who goes to a bar, must drink alcohol !

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  Erik Natams

  Jan 19, 2017

  [quote]So anyone who goes to a bar, must drink alcohol ![/quote] Yes, and everybody who visits Paris should climb the Eiffel tower.

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  Shrty Sid

  Jan 19, 2017

  Well, there isn't much point going to a nudist place if you're not going to partake. Most places have an optional sign up with poolside being mandatory nude. I don't really have a problem with clothed people present - though it could be intimidating for newbies like me if people are clothed.

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  FullSun

  Jan 19, 2017

  This topic has been discussed before. If you would like to have new people join in then it is crazy to require everyone be nude. I have known a number people especially women that were very nervous about going nude and went to be with their significant other or friends and check it out. After a while they became comfortable and lost the clothing but requiring them to lose it right from the start would have made them just not go at all. Additionally some people are comfortable at various temperatures while others find it chilly (my wife being one). Why should those that find it chilly be required to be uncomfortable while enjoying time with their spouse who does not?

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  M

  Jan 20, 2017

  There are merits to both sides of this discussion. I would prefer it to be nude only however before my wife and I got married I took her to a CO club. It didn't take her long to disrobe because she started feeling out of place as most everyone else was nude. She is not in to the lifestyle as much as I am but she did get the opportunity to choose. She will go with me to clubs but I believe that if she was forced to disrobe at the very beginning she would not be as open to the idea as she is now.

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  NatureBoy24

  Jan 20, 2017

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  nudony

  Jan 20, 2017

  [quote] I don't mind clothing optional as long as the majority of people participate, and those who don't are not just there to get their jollies.[/quote] I think when you sign up for "clothing optional" you have to accept the different levels of textilism you might encounter. At some C/O resorts that might mean that people outside the pool area are not nude, the kids don't go nude, staff is not nude, women wear sarongs most of the time, etc... Although there also are some C/O resorts where most people choose to be nude anyway. My only point is to not set yourself up for disappointment if you go to a C/O resort and find yourself one of the only truly nude people there. At BA I was able to undress in the parking lot, walk nude to the office and have a chat (the desk lady wore a sarong for newcomers and merchants but took it off if we chatted a while), and then stroll over to the pool area knowing that almost everyone there would be nude as well. For me it was all part of the "complete" nudist experience and that's specifically why I chose the nude resort.

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  FullSun

  Jan 21, 2017

  [quote]Although there also are some C/O resorts where most people choose to be nude anyway.[/quote] I think you've got it. It sounds like some have had experiences where C/O means there are a good number of people that are clothed, while my experience at Laguna Del Sol and a few other places is that while it is C/O, except around the pool, by far the majority (over 99%) are nude anyway. The remainder are people seeking protection from the cold, sun, tools, a BBQ or whatever or they are new and are not ready but do generally join in pretty quickly.

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  John English

  Jan 22, 2017

  I would have to say clothing optional my wife has started to go to clubs with me and she stays dressed a( bathing suite cover up ) but she likes to swim and almost went in last time till a bunch of people showed

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  traildoc

  Jan 22, 2017

  [quote]My wife and I stay at a clothing optional nudist camp full time, and we have some that are always nude (like me) some that are nude sometimes, and some that I have never seen nude, I guess the good thing is that I am not a nudist for anyone but myself, sure it's nice to share the experience with others, however I don't need anyone else to be nude with me for me to be comfortable,[/quote] Well said. I couldn't have expressed it any better. David

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  John

  Jan 22, 2017

  C/O is important if not mandatory if I will ever get my wife to join me. If she thought nude was required, she would not even consider it the first time.

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  nudony

  Jan 22, 2017

  [quote]C/O is important if not mandatory if I will ever get my wife to join me. If she thought nude was required, she would not even consider it the first time.[/quote] Just curious. People have mentioned the necessity for C/O for first-time visits. Well I not only agree, but I feel as well that all resorts should consider the "reluctant/anxious spouse" and make coverage an option for first time visitors. Even if it is limited to a sarong or a large towel. Both my ex and my fiance started out reluctant; and it was due to the "C/O" option that they tried nudism in the first place. So it would by hypocritical of me to not support a C/O first visit. This is just a question. At the C/O resort, there is no line drawn because someone can just choose to stay C/O. But what about the nude resort? Second visit, third visit? Where should the line be drawn to you?

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• ME

  Member

  Jan 23, 2017

  Cant necessarily agree Andy. My wife has never been a home nudist. Still isnt but is comfortable at the nude beaches and resorts. In fact she was the leader in both cases for us to go. Yes, she knew that I was the nudist and she did it to appease me but she took the first step and is nude where comfortable. She does have her own set of rules about it for herself which is strange though.

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• ME

  Member

  Jan 23, 2017

  We have visited several clubs and resorts and all have been C/O. I've seen people wearing way to many clothes for my taste at all of them. I understand having a time period for newbies to get acclimated or the weather factor for wearing something. I personally think I'd prefer some type of no clothing rule. At our home club there are a few long time members that rarely aren't wearing full wardrobe the entire season. I kind of do a head scratch about that.

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  Olly

  Jan 23, 2017

  I always prefer to be naked and like those around me to be naked too. But I think Club rules should be flexible so support Clothes Optional. There are nudists who are cold or have partners accompanying them who are not confident enough to get naked. I think it helps introduce someone to nudity if they can be amongst nudes but allowed to get naked in their own time. It gives time for them to become comfortable with the notion. Otherwise we just shut them out - no new nudists!

  What perplexes me is the clubs and resorts which require clothing to be worn in the evening, and in restaurants/bars. They are nudist environments. Everyone (well almost everyone) has been naked during the day. They have seen each other naked all day. So what is there to be coy about? Having said that I'm happy to be the only nude at times - each to their own.

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• ME

  Member

  Jan 23, 2017

  We are totally comfortable with 'Clothing Optional' as a classification of a venue be it a private club or a public beach. If we can be naked that is the main consideration and I don't think we have ever been to a CO location where there has been anything more than a very small minority that keep any clothes on.

  We do agree that it is curious that some nudist venues expect people to dress in restaurants and bars.

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  Steve

  Jan 23, 2017

  A retreat center near us is clothing optional for residents, nudity-required for staff. They host a weekly public volleyball game, which is clothing optional most of the time, but once a month is nudity required, this latter intended to peel off those who are only present to Watch. (A nearby resort had begun directing its own clients there.) It's a nice compromise. And one elderly fellow who came dressed (with a volleyball-playing friend) once asked for, and was granted, an exception simply because getting undressed and re-dressed on a bench beside the volleyball court would have been too physically difficult.

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  John

  Jan 23, 2017

  [quote]Cant necessarily agree Andy. My wife has never been a home nudist. Still isnt but is comfortable at the nude beaches and resorts. In fact she was the leader in both cases for us to go. Yes, she knew that I was the nudist and she did it to appease me but she took the first step and is nude where comfortable. She does have her own set of rules about it for herself which is strange though. Well then, consider yourself among the lucky ones ... you and your wife are an exception to the rule or norm! ;-)[/quote] Andy, your are correct of course and it is the case for me unfortunately, that if someone does not enjoy home nudity even a little, the likelihood of social nudity is not likely. That said, knowing my wife and her background, she is very very reluctant for anything until she tries it. She was dead set against boating until I finagled our way into our first boat. Now she loves it and it was she who want to upgrade to our current boat. Over the past few years as I have discovered naturism, practiced at home on occasion and described my experiences (very few) at resorts, she has gradually become less judgmental/worried. So unless we find ways to expose (pun intended) those who are not by nature curious or brave enough to try being nude in the presence of others, nudism will never be mainstream and will be limited to those personality types. I continue to search for couples or friends that have taken this journey to correspond with my wife or even better to meet and share their story. Humans by nature are fearful of the unknown. Experiencing the simple nude experience in a very safe, non-threatening way is one first step to opening the door. Another would be if a friend she already knows and trusts turns out to be a nudist even if just on vacation. I could also envision a small gathering of genuine nudists at a pool party where everyone is relaxed and there is a comfortable mix of nude and textile per each persons comfort. My wife makes friends extremely fast is liked by everyone she meets so I would hope/predict the fact that some people are nude would quickly be pushed to the background. This may all be very self-serving hopefulness on my part. All I know is I really enjoy the relaxation and liberation of simple nude time and wish I could share it often with my wife.

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• ME

  Member

  Jan 23, 2017

  The distance factor is one very inconvenient factor it would seem in this lifestyle. Fireman Bills wife Donita had helped my wife with some issues in the beginning. They were over the other night as we all our getting ready for the cruise. It will be fun to see the girls together for a couple weeks. Given the opportunity I'm sure Mrs Rock would have no problem helping another lady out. She helped with my cousin when he was afraid to hot tub with us and my other girl cousin. Oddly enough he was the reluctant one and my girl cousin is all about taking her clothes off.

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• ME

  Member

  Jan 24, 2017

  [quote]We are totally comfortable with 'Clothing Optional' as a classification of a venue be it a private club or a public beach.If we can be naked that is the main consideration and I don't think we have ever been to a CO location where there has been anything more than a very small minority that keep any clothes on. We do agree that it is curious that some nudist venues expect people to dress in restaurants and bars.[/quote] Agree on these points. At clothing optional places we tend to see a few who keep their clothes on but the majority are nude for at least some of their time there. As long as we can be naked thats our main consideration too, we're nudists who prefer life naked as and when we can be and are comfortable in clothing optional settings, others there may not be so enthusiastic about life this way. Nudists are usually very accepting of others, we hope our nudism is accepted similarly. It does seem strange when we've spent the day surrounded by other nudists that we're asked to dress in restaurants and bars when its mostly the same people there, in a nudist environment. Even stranger is people we've seen nude earlier complaining if others are nude in the evening. Given the option of eating while nude at one place or having to 'cover up' at another the choice for our patronage is a no-brainer, we want to support the place that accepts nudists in a nudist setting! I get the thinking behind clothing optional venues encouraging newcomers to nudism to try this way of life out gradually. I'm also inclined to think that non-nudists may take advantage to remain clothed among nudists. I don't support strict policing of nudity at all times but do appreciate times when everyone is nude at a nudist place, a completely nudist environment seems to make the world a good place to be.

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  George

  Jan 24, 2017

  We both prefer CO venues. Night time temps can get pretty cold, especially in high desert locations like ours. A 30-40F drop at night is not unusual. I've experienced this at De Anza Springs, resorts in Palm Springs and at Mira Vista.

  CO venues do help newbies get accustomed to nudity. I know it helped my wife ease into social nudity. We always make an effort to say hi and chat with those who are willing to attend even CO. Helping newbies feel comfortable only helps grow our numbers.

  And even I have to cover up at times due to excessive sun exposure. Sunscreen only goes so far.

  Also, I believe that in some locations clothing is required in dining areas due to local health regulations.

  We have never encountered clothed males lurking about. Resort management tends to weed them out very quickly.

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  Connor

  Feb 4, 2017

  The purpose of "Clothing Optional" is to transition to Nude. People attending resorts aren't suppose to remain "Clothing Optional".Question:How do you maximize nude participation?Answer:By participating in nude activities, NOT clothing optional. [quote]My ex wife stopped going to Laguna del Sol because she felt wrong somehow, when others were dressed and she was nude. In my opinion, clubs should err on the side of nudists who want to be nude.[/quote] Steven Taylor, Laguna del Sol's GM, wrote a "Notice" letter regarding this very issue and addressed it, and others raised in this thread. The letter was posted on 2 locations. 1. On a bulletin board right outside the co-ed showers a few yards from the RV hookups. 2. On a bulletin board right outside the co-ed showers by the outdoor main pools. It was still there September of last year. P.S. If anyone(or a resident of Laguna del Sol) is going, could someone please take a picture of that letter or write it down and post it here? Assuming, the letters are still up. The details of that letter would make a good discussion.

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  Mark

  Apr 25, 2017

  I don't have a preference for myself, obviously it would be not allowed, when it comes to other people optional I think should be the norm. Why take away the persons right to choose their state of undress?

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