My thoughts on clothing optional vs nudist

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  nudony

  Apr 26, 2022

  [quote]Thanks, I guess I read too much into some of the responses. It's the Internet and all...[/quote] People who prefer "all nude" are often accused of being discriminatory or "just wanting to see naked people." I find that very reductive; if not outright insulting. My wife and I visited several resorts before deciding on making an "all nude" one our primary nudist destination. That decision was based on both location and nudity. We both liked the "simplicity" of just leaving our clothes in the car for a day or two; and for everyone we interacted with to be "on the same page" as us. My wife admittedly feels more comfortable being nude in front of someone who is also naked. It makes interaction more "harmonious", if that makes any sense. At the C/O resort, she never really felt comfortable being naked outside the pool area; as she might end up being the only one naked. At the "all nude" resort, she has no such reservations since everyone else is also naked.

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  JeffOriginal Poster

  Apr 27, 2022

  [quote]Thanks, I guess I read too much into some of the responses. It's the Internet and all... People who prefer "all nude" are often accused of being discriminatory or "just wanting to see naked people." I find that very reductive; if not outright insulting. My wife and I visited several resorts before deciding on making an "all nude" one our primary nudist destination. That decision was based on both location and nudity. We both liked the "simplicity" of just leaving our clothes in the car for a day or two; and for everyone we interacted with to be "on the same page" as us. My wife admittedly feels more comfortable being nude in front of someone who is also naked. It makes interaction more "harmonious", if that makes any sense. At the C/O resort, she never really felt comfortable being naked outside the pool area; as she might end up being the only one naked. At the "all nude" resort, she has no such reservations since everyone else is also naked.[/quote] This expresses how I feel very well, including my being a dick comment. Thanks for posting.

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  Mark

  Apr 27, 2022

  The best thing about Clothing Optional is it is a good way to introduce newbies to nudism. I have taken several friends to Haulover. Almost all of them said they would not go by themselves and would not go if nudity was mandatory. All of them eventually ended up nude and the general consensus was "I never realized what I was missing" To me Clothing Optional always means nude and understand fully why a nudist camp / resort would mandate nudity in certain if not all areas.

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  Tom D

  Apr 27, 2022

  Once when I was at Gunnison a nude women asked for help blowing up a raft. Her male friend was wearing board shorts. We got talking and she had just asked him if he wanted to go to the beach, and didn't tell him that it was clothing optional. He took his shorts off a little later, but had them on and off throughout the day,

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  2bnude4me

  Apr 27, 2022

  The clothes optional club nearby is confusing to me. It has been in existance for many years, has many members. The confusing part is very few are nude, sometimes when I would be there only myself and two others were nude, and the weather was nice. Even at their pool, which is supposed to be nude, people have clothes on. It seems odd to wear clothes where you don't have too, when the weather is nice and you can be nude. I have switched to the clothes free club which suits me better.

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  Stone Andy

  Apr 27, 2022

  I object to the term "being a dick" when we should just focus on proudly having one.
  As far as CO vs. nudist, nudity is the great equalizer, but staying comfortable (not cold, bit or sunburned) also has its advantages.
  When I'm "truly" naked without my glasses everything is a fuzzy blur and I don't notice much difference about clothes or the lack thereof, and I like it like that.

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  Steve

  Apr 27, 2022

  I count a hat, glasses and footwear as accessories in the context of bring nude. Still, getting rid of every last item is a nice feeling. Usually I end up with only my hat on in sunshine at the CO beach, while for night walks it's my glasses (never thought to not take them and, anyway, I need all the help I can get in the dark) and footwear. Perhaps I could dare to leave my glasses and thongs (flip-flops) behind for night walks in the future, but that may mean excluding gravel trails and sacrificing what vision I have in the moonlight.

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  Bill

  Apr 27, 2022

  Timely topic for me since I just had a conversation with a couple around the indoor pool two days ago. It was their first trip to our fine resort and they'd been here for a few days, and even had the chance to go the blacklight dance on Saturday night (me and my honey still stay away from the gatherings because of covid-19 concerns - hoping to change that soon when the time is right). They had had a very nice stay overall, but one moment they did mention to us that marred the dance for them was when the man was away from his woman for a few moments to go to the restroom and some guy walked up to the woman and told her it was a nudist resort and that she shouldn't be wearing the outfit she had on. What the hell!

  Firstly, yes, this is not a clothing optional resort and you are expected to be nude when the weather is permitting it, but this guy who confronted the visitor was not an employee of the resort and had absolutely no business saying a damned thing. Even if he had been an employee (and no employee would ever do this), by confronting the woman about her clothing choice when her companion was away from the table where they had been sitting all evening, he was acting outrageously rude!

  Secondly, during a dance the rules for clothing are often more relaxed given the theme, even a little moreso at our regular blacklight dances, encouraging patrons to wear clothing options that interact with the special lighting. And it wasn't as if she was wearing a three-piece suit but what she described as a diaphanous wrap that was still showing her bare body underneath and accentuated it by the black light lighting. I didn't see her outfit -- we met them naked and at the pool on their last day here.

  I was very upset about what had happened to them and hoped it hadn't made them think twice about visiting us again. They acted like the ill feelings that they'd gotten from the uncomfortable moment at the dance hadn't lingered and that they were quite excited about coming back for Beachfest in August, one of our biggest events of the year. If I knew who the man was who got up in her face at the dance and it was a member of White Tail, I would go to the office and make a formal complaint about that person to the management. What occurred was at no point and in any way acceptable. I hope it was simply some dumbshit non-member. It makes me worry when I hear about assholes who think they have a right to confront others about such frivolous things because it takes very little to turn off visitors, not only during, but especially during, their first visit. And how many other people did this fool confront that night? I felt that I had to apologize to them for the whole resort because of one jerk who couldn't think his way through to its aftermath his pathetic decision to walk up to a stranger and tell her to take off her outfit. Nudists in general know better.

  I have been to both clothing optional and nudist places and much prefer the nudism decision. Our controlling board of visitors debated the choice many years ago and that is why White Tail Resort is nude, not optional. I have been in a situation where the only people in a crowd of many who were nude were me and my honey and our two friends and it felt great, even when some of the clothed people were kind enough to be giving us the bitch stink eye, supposedly about our lack of clothing choice. It was warm enough for us! I felt like they were the silly ones, but that's always an individual's choice at a C.O. resort and should stay that way.

  If you visit WTR and want a tour, we'll give you one and you can keep your clothes on the whole time. If you want to stay when the tour is complete, those items of cloth will need to be removed if weather is appropriate except in your room, cabin, RV or campsite. We have an open house weekend in July every year where people are allowed to remain clothed during their whole visit. But if you're reading this post on this website, oh come on!

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  Derek

  Apr 27, 2022

  There are good reasons for being clad in a nudist place (apart from cold weather. Some women experience chafing of skin on skin while walking. Ouch! Fair complexions need sun protection that sunscreen alone can't handle. C/O seems fair enough.

  IMO, resorts that designate "mandatory nude" areas (in and around pool and hot tub area, for example) seems to be a good compromise. Public places (beaches, trails, springs) C/O make perfect sense (provided they're fully posted) -- it excludes no one (apart from the "easily offended"). Hey, how 'bout this sign: NO PRUDES BEYOND THIS POINT

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  EarlD

  Apr 27, 2022

  [quote]They had had a very nice stay overall, but one moment they did mention to us that marred the dance for them was when the man was away from his woman for a few moments to go to the restroom and some guy walked up to the woman and told her it was a nudist resort and that she shouldn't be wearing the outfit she had on. What the hell! [/quote] Whenever I hear stories like this I ask myself how does this promote naturism to what end did this individual behave this way? To make himself look good? To get a glimpse of another naked body? To score brownie points? What positive outcome was anticipated? Never find an answer that makes sense to me.

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• ME

  Member

  Apr 28, 2022

  [quote]I object to the term "being a dick" when we should just focus on proudly having one. As far as CO vs. nudist, nudity is the great equalizer, but staying comfortable (not cold, bit or sunburned) also has its advantages. When I'm "truly" naked without my glasses everything is a fuzzy blur and I don't notice much difference about clothes or the lack thereof, and I like it like that.[/quote] No offense but I guess you have never escorted someone out the main gate acting out over being unappropriated towards naked females. Alcohol and nudity does not necessarily mix well. Acting an idiot in any setting is not proper naked or not. Perhaps it's me but I take it seriously. It hasn't happened often at our local club over the years but even once is to often.

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  JeffOriginal Poster

  Apr 28, 2022

  [quote]Alcohol and nudity does not necessarily mix well. Acting an idiot in any setting is not proper naked or not.[/quote] LOL, I'm sober 13 years. Glad I am too. I'm not a violent drunk (more of a lampshade) but I would totally be "the idiot" if I drank at a resort and could see myself being escorted out as you describe. Grateful I don't have to deal with that.

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  Zeke

  Apr 28, 2022

  We all have choice of where we go and what we do their within the rules of the place we find ourselves at. I get it that some individuals needs to 'feel' comfortable been nude and want to 'try' it but feel they need to stay clothed. I always wonder how you can 'try' something without doing it 100%? Using the logic on most things, you'd be like, how does that work? Try eating something new by just looking at it, how is that 'eating' it? Try 'driving', how does that work just getting in the car and not driving? So you are going to 'try' nudism but you stay clothed, were you nude? The places that you can be nude are so limited. Just read the post or profile that say "I wish" we had a place close by nude, then why would you drive somewhere where you can be nude and not be nude? Reading post that state "they don't want to be nude because others are not nude", then individuals can't be nude as they are not comfortable not been nude. I drive some where that you can be nude because I want to be nude and will be nude. If I wanted to be not nude, then I will go to the clothed places. Yes some need time to 'transition' to nudism but would it be better to 'just jump in'? I prefer resorts that nudism is required over clothing optional, as I mention, I want to be somewhere I can be nude and be nude with other 'like minded' individuals share that nudism view. Granted all 'public' places to be nude are clothing optional, I accept that, since I haven't found a beach that is only nude to be there. Again, you are choosing to go where you go, clothing optional or nude only, then accept the 'rules' of the private place or public place.

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  Terry C

  Apr 28, 2022

  Guess what! I truly believe most people and nudists are no exception we definitely know when as nudists we can drink and when we can't. I am sick and tired of people and others trying to tell other people how to behave when they are nude! ARE YOU KIDDING YOU IDIOTS!
  VERY DISAPOINTED IN MY NUDIST COLLEAGUES WHO THINK THEY AND ONLY THEY CAN TELL PEOPLE WHAT TO DO WHEN THEY ARE NUDE!
  Hickguy M.D.

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  Terry C

  Apr 28, 2022

  Thank you for that information. I would ONLY GO TO A TRUE NUDIST EVERYONE NUDE RESORT! WHY? Because I trust nudists who are nude and since I know nothing about them or them me I always walk up and start a conversation in the nude of both or all of us! It is the only way to be as a nudist in a group of nudists! I WILL NEVER EVER GO TO A CAMP WHERE PEOPLE CAN GET AWAY WITH WEARING CLOTHING UNLESS THEY ARE ILL!
  Hickguy M.D.

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• ME

  Member

  Apr 28, 2022

  While I understand your approach, I will say that at the smaller resorts we frequent, I have not had any issues. There are a couple of wives that do not get nude even though their husbands do & they are not hesitant to join in group conversations. On several occasions I have gone up to them while nude and had pleasant discussions and then continued on my way. I am sure it might not be the same in all areas of the country but its been fine in the Deep South.

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  SmallDickNudist

  Apr 29, 2022

  So I think this is a really interesting topic. Im a relatively new nudist, started with sleeping nude in high school (now about to be 30) and worked my way up to full on nudist at public places and full time at home over the last 7 or so years. I love going to camp grounds, beaches and resorts that promote and accept nudism. My partner on the other hand is much more hesitant and says they have to be in the right mood or the vibe has to be right. This make clothing optional locations more viable for us a couple. Things I have notice as a LGBTQ+ couple is that the locations we go to if they are clothing optional tend to range more sexual then what I have heard about Nudist resorts. In my experience some these places have a culture of if your nude your looking to hook up. While I recognize myself as more sexual then the average nudist, I can understand the appeal of nudist places that dont have that overt sexual culture, but given that my partner like the freedom to choose I dont see us visiting too many places where clothing is not an option. Thats said I have also found some clothing optional places that strike the perfect balance for us, but it took a lot of trying out to find places that worked. Would love to hear from other LGBTQ+ nudist if they have similar experiences.

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  Tom D

  Apr 29, 2022

  [quote]So I think this is a really interesting topic. Im a relatively new nudist, started with sleeping nude in high school (now about to be 30) and worked my way up to full on nudist at public places and full time at home over the last 7 or so years. I love going to camp grounds, beaches and resorts that promote and accept nudism. My partner on the other hand is much more hesitant and says they have to be in the right mood or the vibe has to be right. This make clothing optional locations more viable for us a couple. Things I have notice as a LGBTQ+ couple is that the locations we go to if they are clothing optional tend to range more sexual then what I have heard about Nudist resorts. In my experience some these places have a culture of if your nude your looking to hook up. While I recognize myself as more sexual then the average nudist, I can understand the appeal of nudist places that dont have that overt sexual culture, but given that my partner like the freedom to choose I dont see us visiting too many places where clothing is not an option. Thats said I have also found some clothing optional places that strike the perfect balance for us, but it took a lot of trying out to find places that worked. Would love to hear from other LGBTQ+ nudist if they have similar experiences.[/quote] Are the resorts you visit male only or both genders?

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  John

  Apr 29, 2022

  doneright wrote: [quote] I always wonder how you can 'try' something without doing it 100%? Using the logic on most things, you'd be like, how does that work? Try eating something new by just looking at it, how is that 'eating' it? Try 'driving', how does that work just getting in the car and not driving? So you are going to 'try' nudism but you stay clothed, were you nude?.[/quote] I get what you're saying. But just being exposed to something is the first step to embracing it. You can't taste something new by just looking at it, but if you're at a barbeque and you smell that chicken cooking, you're likely to get interested in tasting it. And if a person who has never seen an automobile is put in the driver's seat, that person will not have clue about what to do. But most of us have been in the passenger seat of a car since they were kids, and we've already amassed a lot of experience in what the sensation of driving is. And we've seen the person in the driver's seat operating the controls, using the brakes and steering wheel and such, so we were prepared for the driver's seat to some extent. So while you can't really experience social nudity without trying it, you can get a taste of it by seeing how others react to it with each other. From that, it's a much shorter step to doing it yourself.

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  SmallDickNudist

  Apr 29, 2022

  [quote]So I think this is a really interesting topic. Im a relatively new nudist, started with sleeping nude in high school (now about to be 30) and worked my way up to full on nudist at public places and full time at home over the last 7 or so years. I love going to camp grounds, beaches and resorts that promote and accept nudism. My partner on the other hand is much more hesitant and says they have to be in the right mood or the vibe has to be right. This make clothing optional locations more viable for us a couple. Things I have notice as a LGBTQ+ couple is that the locations we go to if they are clothing optional tend to range more sexual then what I have heard about Nudist resorts. In my experience some these places have a culture of if your nude your looking to hook up. While I recognize myself as more sexual then the average nudist, I can understand the appeal of nudist places that dont have that overt sexual culture, but given that my partner like the freedom to choose I dont see us visiting too many places where clothing is not an option. Thats said I have also found some clothing optional places that strike the perfect balance for us, but it took a lot of trying out to find places that worked. Would love to hear from other LGBTQ+ nudist if they have similar experiences. Are the resorts you visit male only or both genders?[/quote] Ive been to a little bit of both, most of the camp grounds I have been to are open to all but only at the last one we went to that were really liked were there any women there. For the beach resort we go to every summer, the beach is open to all, genders and ages, but the resort is men only 21+.

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  EarlD

  Apr 30, 2022

  [quote]doneright wrote: I get what you're saying. But just being exposed to something is the first step to embracing it. You can't taste something new by just looking at it, but if you're at a barbeque and you smell that chicken cooking, you're likely to get interested in tasting it. And if a person who has never seen an automobile is put in the driver's seat, that person will not have clue about what to do. But most of us have been in the passenger seat of a car since they were kids, and we've already amassed a lot of experience in what the sensation of driving is. And we've seen the person in the driver's seat operating the controls, using the brakes and steering wheel and such, so we were prepared for the driver's seat to some extent. So while you can't really experience social nudity without trying it, you can get a taste of it by seeing how others react to it with each other. From that, it's a much shorter step to doing it yourself.[/quote] Thanks for the very thoughtful response. It is just what I would have said.

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  EarlD

  Apr 30, 2022

  Seems the despite the very reasonable and civil tone of this conversation the attack anything that doesnt align with my view crowd has descended and is trying to shift that tone - I do hope we can resist. This has been one of the best threads on here in tone and substance in years.

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• ME

  Member

  Apr 30, 2022

  I find it very interesting (to put it politely) that an alleged physician would not support what many clubs do - and that is to allow women on the monthly to wear something if they so chose. Demanding that women remain naked while on the monthly is a great way to chase women away from club nudism.

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• ME

  Member

  May 2, 2022

  Please stop yelling.

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