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Nudists and "textiles" in mixed settings. Do they actually "mix"?

Posted Aug 12, 2022

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nudony
nudonyOriginal Poster
Aug 12, 2022
An acquaintance of mine (let's just say friend) did an interesting little "experiment." He threw a "bash" at his home and invited his nudist friends as well as "textile" friends (he has many in both worlds). He reported a very balanced mix; along the lines of 1/3 nude, 1/3 dressed, and 1/3 partially disrobed/lightly clothed. But he soon realized that the "nudes" were segregating themselves as a group; and a few even reported being uncomfortable with the "textile" presence. The "textiles", on the other hand, did not seem to have a problem with the "nudes." He expressed some surprise and disappointment with the "nudes'" not mingling very well with the "textiles." I was not surprised. My limited experience with "mixed settings" would suggest that nudists can be quite "lukewarm" to the idea of "intimate" interaction with dressed people. I've had a discussion about it with my wife, who described the idea as "being on display." That would indicate some sense of vulnerability when naked in front of someone who is not. I've seen it where the dressed person(s) in a nude setting was/were ignored or avoided; or the nudists became self-conscious when approached by a dressed person(s). Demonstrating "naked confidence" while interacting with a "textile" is often recognized as a good thing; as it demonstrates that naturalness of nudity. I've often told the story of the "reluctant and fully clothed" wife at a get-together who was ignored/avoided; and it was because my (then) wife demonstrated "naked confidence" and friendliness towards her that she eventually decided to get naked too. But that was a one-on-one interaction. Even my (then) wife would have hesitated to approach agroupof dressed individuals. I'm curious about other people's thoughts and experiences on this.
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    nudony
    nudonyOriginal Poster
    Aug 13, 2022
    [quote]Being naked is the great equalizer and in these mixed gatherings of nudes and textiles, he playing field is not equal. [/quote] Agreed. I didn't ask my friend, but I would wager that the "nudes" that complained about the "textile presence" were in fact women. I have seen women arriving at nudist get-togethers and taking a peek outside, at the attendees, before going back inside and disrobing. Undoubtably to ascertain how comfortable they will be being naked amongst them. At the resort, my wife feels no need to do that because it's an "all nude resort"; but at the BnB, she will put on a bathrobe upon arriving; and after seeing the other guests nude (or close enough), will remove it. Women - and I'm aware I'm generalizing here - "operate" on a different level of self-consciousness than men (usually) do. Liz knows she will not feel judged at the resort because the people seeing her naked will be naked themselves. She would feel very differently if some or most were covered up.
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    noodengr2
    noodengr2
    Aug 13, 2022

    I cannot really say I have experienced a large group of nudist and textiles mixing. If I did I know I would be completely comfortable
    being in the nude crowd even if that crowd were just me. I have posed for artist to sketch where the ratio of textiles to nudes is 15 to one
    I have also often entertained people at my home where I am nude and they are clothed. As long as the textile is comfortable with a nude
    person around them, I know I am comfortable around a textile. And from my experience many more textiles are fine with that
    arrangement than the average nudist thinks will be.

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    bob
    Aug 13, 2022

    i think an important factor has been left out. The designated place is it a nudist setting with clothing optional to facilitate the clothed guests or is a Textile place wih same clothing optional for nudists or was it left come as you are ,
    Textiles going to a nudist place tend to know what they are doing, Average textile confronted with nudism in a setting they feel is textile it's not going to go well. So many variables left to the imagination in this discussion.

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  • ME
    Member
    Aug 17, 2022
    Sitting back and observing over the years it forever has been perplexing to me. I've seen a gathering of nudist and no one disrobed for a good period of time I speak more of couples. If my wife disrobes BANG everyone starts undressing. Just how it has usually been. I am clueless why other females wait for her lead.
    I have seen mixed textiles and nudist. There is usually one guy that is balls out legs open on full display loud and proud. That usually polarized the mood of the room.
    Recently a newer single female unwittingly hosted a mixed friends party and when a few took off there clothes the textiles were shell shocked. Her comment was I will not make that mistake again.
    For us my wife will not strip down if the other folks are not true nudist. I myself am not comfortable being the lone naked man in the room as much as I would rather always be naked.
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    StevieLorna
    StevieLorna
    Aug 17, 2022

    Sidebar question.

    Are ..Jocks and Yes Men ways of labelling a certain type of person?

    Asking for a friend.

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    nudeyooper
    Aug 17, 2022
    [quote]Sitting back and observing over the years it forever has been perplexing to me. I've seen a gathering of nudist and no one disrobed for a good period of time I speak more of couples. If my wife disrobes BANG everyone starts undressing. Just how it has usually been. I am clueless why other females wait for her lead. I have seen mixed textiles and nudist. There is usually one guy that is balls out legs open on full display loud and proud. That usually polarized the mood of the room. Recently a newer single female unwittingly hosted a mixed friends party and when a few took off there clothes the textiles were shell shocked. Her comment was I will not make that mistake again. For us my wife will not strip down if the other folks are not true nudist. I myself am not comfortable being the lone naked man in the room as much as I would rather always be naked.[/quote] How did it go after the initial shock? Did more nudists join the naked group? Did any of the textiles also try going nude? Did people leave or stay? Did the nudists get dressed again? There had to be a lot to talk about not only then, but for days, months, and years to come.
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    nudony
    nudonyOriginal Poster
    Aug 18, 2022
    [quote]Recently a newer single female unwittingly hosted a mixed friends party and when a few took off there clothes the textiles were shell shocked. Her comment was I will not make that mistake again.[/quote] My experience being naked around covered/dressed non-nudists is that they've struggled with it more often than not. Either they have a hard time not staring at body parts; or they're clearly "faking" being totally comfortable with it. I was at a "mixed" get together recently; but it was at a nudist resort's "after hours" event. Due to the cooler evening temps and the mosquitoes, some people opted to be fully dressed, many others bottomless; and the bravest went fully nude. But these were all nudists; with an understanding of nudist etiquette and a "proven" comfort with nudity. No one cared who was naked or who was not. So there was no weirdness about the "mixed" setting.
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    Guzzi27
    Guzzi27
    Aug 18, 2022
    [quote]Sidebar question. Are ..Jocks and Yes Men ways of labelling a certain type of person? Asking for a friend.[/quote] I dont know about yes men but jocks has different meanings depending on where you live. In the UK jock is a colloquial term for a Scotsman.in the US is something different.
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    Tom D
    Tom D
    Aug 18, 2022
    [quote]Sidebar question.Are ..Jocks and Yes Men ways of labelling a certain type of person?Asking for a friend. I dont know about yes men but jocks has different meanings depending on where you live. In the UK jock is a colloquial term for a Scotsman.in the US is something different.[/quote] Jocks in the US is a term for athletes, especially those whose life revolves around athletic activities.
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    StevieLorna
    StevieLorna
    Aug 18, 2022

    Guys, I am a Jock, on both sides of the Atlantic and you have both answered a question I did not ask.

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    StevieLorna
    StevieLorna
    Aug 18, 2022
    [quote]I guess to answer your question, Jocks and Yes Men being labels, I think it's a label for describe certain guys. Sometimes, people with refer to a "jock" not only as a physically fit guy but also a brainless guy. "He's a jock. If only his brain were as big as his muscles." Yes Men is a term we've used a lot on the fire department. "He's a Yes Man. Does everything he's told by the higher ups and can't think for himself." Is this what you're speaking of?[/quote] Thanks, I think they are labels and you agree, these are labels that describe certain traits in people. So if someone was to use the term Jock and Yes Men in a post they would be labelling people. I just wanted to get that straightened out. Once again, thank you for your help.
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    StevieLorna
    StevieLorna
    Aug 19, 2022
    [quote] Depends on the venue. I read on another board that a couple got married at a festival that was known to be nude tolerant. The groom walked in wearing a only a kilt and as the ceremony was about to begin, he removed it, gave it to the best man and remained nude throughout the ceremony and reception.[/quote] Id like to fact check this, which venue are you talking about?
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    Tom D
    Tom D
    Aug 19, 2022
    [quote]Depends on the venue. I read on another board that a couple got married at a festival that was known to be nude tolerant. The groom walked in wearing a only a kilt and as the ceremony was about to begin, he removed it, gave it to the best man and remained nude throughout the ceremony and reception. Id like to fact check this, which venue are you talking about?[/quote] It has been a while since I saw it and I don't remember the venue, and it was in one of my Yahoo Groups which have since been disbanded.
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    Tom D
    Tom D
    Aug 19, 2022
    [quote]Depends on the venue. I read on another board that a couple got married at a festival that was known to be nude tolerant. The groom walked in wearing a only a kilt and as the ceremony was about to begin, he removed it, gave it to the best man and remained nude throughout the ceremony and reception.Id like to fact check this, which venue are you talking about? It has been a while since I saw it and I don't remember the venue, and it was in one of my Yahoo Groups which have since been disbanded.[/quote] Might have been Burning Man.
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    StevieLorna
    StevieLorna
    Aug 19, 2022

    Send me your wifes brothers email. He should know. Ill ask him.

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    Tom D
    Tom D
    Aug 19, 2022
    [quote]Send me your wifes brothers email. He should know. Ill ask him.[/quote] I think you are combining two events. My wife's brother started stripping at his wedding reception and another brother stopped him before he removed anything below the waist. The person who got married nude is someone that I only read about on line, in Yahoo groups which no longer exist.
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  • ME
    Member
    Aug 21, 2022
    [quote]Depends on the venue. I read on another board that a couple got married at a festival that was known to be nude tolerant. The groom walked in wearing a only a kilt and as the ceremony was about to begin, he removed it, gave it to the best man and remained nude throughout the ceremony and reception. Id like to fact check this, which venue are you talking about?[/quote] Steve it appears to be a fact check fail.
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  • ME
    Member
    Aug 21, 2022

    Our neighbor girl at our club relocated to Florida several years ago. We were close friends and tears fell when she left of course and secondly she connected to a textile guy who has a temper. We never figured that one out however we are still close and she stays with us when she flies in.
    I swore to Luann if her idiot loudmouth hothead BF ever did one of his surprise show ups (jealous type keeping tabs on her) I was getting on the phone and call in all nudist friend we have. He has never challenged Luann in our past and I find that so humorous being he is a self proclaimed bad ass biker. Nudity to him is like Off is to mosquitoes.

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    EarlD
    EarlD
    Aug 21, 2022

    Just realized the header for the forum says it is intelligent discussions - this post and subsequent conversation suggest that may be an inaccuracy.

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    Tom D
    Tom D
    Aug 21, 2022

    Probably more a plan or goal than a reality.

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    Tom D
    Tom D
    Aug 21, 2022

    It seems that people who don't consider themselves nudists are more likely to sleep nude or swim nude a private pool than do other activities so that might be a way to approach the subject.

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  • ME
    Member
    Aug 25, 2022
    [quote]Just realized the header for the forum says it is intelligent discussions - this post and subsequent conversation suggest that may be an inaccuracy.[/quote] You are correct. There is a member I refrain to name that post very frequently and when that happens things run off in the ditch.
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    nudeyooper
    Aug 25, 2022

    Labels are with us and ingrained from an early age. I don't believe that will ever change, but if you are speaking strictly of derogatory labels only, more people seem to be aware of how hurtful they can be. There is a concerted effort to not use them, but in that attempt an new one is used in its place. It may be more acceptable, but is still a label.
    What about the labels we can be proud of? Would you stop using them? That list seems to be endless. Here are the ones I tend to like: husband, dad, grandpa, singer, engineer, craftsman, and more. To be sure, nudist is on the list too.

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  • ME
    Member
    Aug 26, 2022
    Personally Ive not been in a setting where nudist and textiles is a pleasant feeling in a setting. To much of a non understanding I spose of each other about nudity. I read enough about one spouse is apposed and the other is sneaking around to get naked time in. I do feel for those in that position no doubt. I too lived in a world once where naked was met with intolerance and punishment when "caught" or things discovered.





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