On another board I made a statement that not all nudists share the same vision of naturism and that I didn't agree with forcing unwanted nudity on the general public. I was not referring to nude beaches, resorts, clubs or some forms of protest but I was informed that I was anti-nudist and generally not politically correct. Both charges baffled me as I am pro responsible nudism and political correctness seems to be taking over too many facets of our lives.
Examples:
I have friends of different colors/religions etc ... therefore I am enlightened.
I dislike certain people of different colors/religions etc ... therefore I am a bigoted racist.
I like and respect certain gay people and call them my friends ... Therefore I am enlightened (again).
I dislike certain gay people ... therefore I am homophobic.
I have both left wing and right wing friends and some I dislike ... therefore I am wrong depending on your stance.
Nudists are people with many different likes and dislikes (and yes prejudices) yet many think we should all conform to a set standard simply because we enjoy nude recreation.
I would like your thoughts on how political correctness is affecting our lives and especially our naturist philosophy and attitudes.
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jasonJul 20, 2010so the entire membership of the NRA is homophobic for disliking rosie o'donnel?
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Cheri Donna DawsonJul 20, 2010I go along with everything you said in your statement about liking some of just about everything/one.
I am a fiscal conservative, socially liberal - I don't let others dictate what i should believe in. I try to be inclusive rather than exclusive
ReactReply - JAJackNeilsonOriginal PosterJul 20, 2010
"Politically Correct" was originally a term (translated) used in the Soviet Union to refer to strict adherence to the party line. Politically incorrect persons were closely watched, arrested and worse. How it ended up with its current meaning in the West is a mystery to me and why does the word "political" form part of it in its current (Western) meaning? In essence if you were politically correct you would never deviate from the party line in thought, word or deed. It has nothing to do with acceptance, discrimination etc except in the minds of a few who seem to feel that their thoughts interpretations of others etc are the only correct ones and who wish to impose those thoughts on others. My thoughts are my own and may be interpreted by some as being politically incorrect and by others as being benign and to be honest I really don't care as I am true to myself as an individual. Yes, I have strong feelings on some subjects and I will defend them but I also will respect those who disagree with me and their right to do so. Sometimes it is best to simply agree to disagree and get on with life. ... End of rambling thoughts.
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Paul VoglerJul 20, 2010Political Correctness is just another term for lying. But people can't handle the truth anymore.
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AJul 21, 2010If you have to be politically correct, you don't have balls any more, regardless of gender.
I f..k care about political correctness in my private life, and happily observe some people are shocked by my language. On the other hand I dislike bigotry, slander and prejudice and try not to insult people unless they have done something to deserve seriously negative feedback. Having been some 200+ times in a political entity called Soviet Union before its collapse, I am sad to observe that there are in the free world more and more all kinds of attempts to emasculate language and other public expression. Unfortunately US is somewhat further in that than the old continent, but Europe is catching up quickly.
Politically corret language is an endless abyss of making language poorer and poorer and finding out indirect or complicated expressions to simple things.TravelNudie aka Aki
Proud for not being politically correct
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BudJul 21, 2010I refuse to be politically correct for the sake of appearing to be some way that I am not... Manners and ettiquette are all thats required...
I refuse to call black people "African Americans" it is stupid and pretends we don't have race differences, just regional ones.
Bullshit! I asked my Black friends which term they preferred and their answer was unanimous... African American is for people who immigrated from africa whithin 1 or 2 generations...Every one else is a Black American... This is a city phenominon anyway, only in the large cities do people worry about such crap...ReactReply - MEMemberJul 21, 2010
Politically correct is an oxymoron. It's also neither. Fits right up there with moral majority.
NIM, not sure where your "leftist" diatribe came from, but being someone who is neither left nor right (or maybe both) I can tell you that the most "politically correct" people I know are hard-core, right-wing, conservatives.
Jen
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UKrudegirlJul 21, 2010Political Correctness is the last refuge of the Intellectually Inept.Love n stuff,Rudie xReactReply - RO
RoosterockJul 21, 2010Obama is taking our freedom. On the health care, the american people said we do not want it. Obama, who cares, you will take it because I say so. American people say protect our borders. Obama says no, I need the criminals to vote for me. Americans say protect our shores from oil. Obama refused help that could have kept the oil from our shores. The American people are losing there rights and we need to take back our rights in Nov.
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Gerry-4Jul 21, 2010Political correctness is one of those things that looked good on paper. In real life, sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.
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mrsun57Jul 21, 2010Damned if you do and damned if you don't. (WTF. Sh*t happens.) It comes down to, what is best for you. Harm None. Being PC is like banging your head into the nearest wall without a helmet.
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njmikeJul 21, 2010Rudie - very well said. Political correctness is nothing more than another form of censorship, and always was. Political correctness was about not offending anyone's sensibilities - and some people need to have their sensibilties offended (particularly the immature). As far as the rightbeing the only ones using the term - wrong. I've heard plenty of liberals over the years use it.
MikeReactReply - JAJackNeilsonOriginal PosterJul 21, 2010[quote]Political Correctness is the last refuge of the Intellectually Inept.Love n stuff,Rudie x[/quote] You have a knack of getting right to the heart of the matter Rudie. I think I might add socially inept to it as well. As Gerry said it might have looked good on paper but ....ReactReply
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Curt, or CowboyJul 21, 2010[quote]Political Correctness is the last refuge of the Intellectually Inept. Love n stuff, Rudie x[/quote] As usual, on target. [quote] [quote]Obama is taking our freedom. On the health care, the american people said we do not want it. Obama, who cares, you will take it because I say so. American people say protect our borders. Obama says no, I need the criminals to vote for me. Americans say protect our shores from oil. Obama refused help that could have kept the oil from our shores. The American people are losing there rights and we need to take back our rights in Nov.[/quote] [/quote] 'Scuse me ? CONGRESS passed "health care" not a single man. No, most people didn't want it, but put the blame where it belongs, on your own elected congress-critter. Boarders ? That's so balled up in "agency" and "commission" blame deferment it's almost impossible to say. Oil spill ? Again, congressional and EPA action, not the most recent occupant of a particular oval shaped office. As a mostly Libertarian, ( as opposed to libertine ) I've little use for any of the Republicrats, be they textile or nudist.ReactReply - JAjasonJul 21, 2010the bush administration and fcc really over reacted over that whole janet jackson nipple baring incident. do we blame them or justin timberlake or both with having superbowl halftime acts taken from the membership of aarp?
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On health care issue. Curt said "Your own elected congress" No it was NOT all of congress that voted for the health care bill. Only Democrates, who Voted for something they never read and will fix later. I say Bull-shit on doing something like that. As far as the border is concerned, I believe like Most any true American believes that you come here like our fore fathers and learn English. Why should we the tax payer be stuck with having to give them health care, welfare, housing, schooling. If you feel we should pay for criminals then you Pay and let us americans support our country. We did not ask them to come here so if you don't like it here, you know where the door is. I fought for this country to give you and everyone else the right to freedom of speech.
ReactReply - NUnude-and-tattooedJul 21, 2010
I'm getting SO tired of hearing this line of BS about how the "majority of Americans" didn't want the health reform bill to be passed by Congress. While it's true that the polling data showed a narrow majority of the people didn't agree with the bill, the right-wingers out there conveniently leave out the fact that many of those who opposed the bill did so because they believe it did not go far enough and wanted to hold out for a bill that included a public option. If you remove those people from the polling data, you no longer have a "majority". It's a total misrepresentation of the facts to state that the American people did not want health care reform.
ReactReply - MEMemberJul 21, 2010
THis thread is NOT about health care reform...it's about political correctness. Stay on topic please. If you'd like to debate healthcare refrom start your own thread.
JenReactReply - JAJackNeilsonOriginal PosterJul 21, 2010[quote]THis thread is NOT about health care reform...it's about political correctness. Stay on topic please. If you'd like to debate healthcare refrom start your own thread. Jen[/quote] I agree. Please lets get back on subjectReactReply
- RORoosterockJul 21, 2010
NudeInMA, you hit the target right on. I agree with everything you said. What some of us are saying is our rights are being taken away. An that means when it came to the health care bill. America did want change, but not a change from poor to out right terrible.
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macnudeJul 21, 2010[quote][quote]THis thread is NOT about health care reform...it's about political correctness. Stay on topic please. If you'd like to debate healthcare refrom start your own thread. Jen[/quote] I agree. Please lets get back on subject[/quote] Jack, I don’t think that anyone who has read your straight forward, common sense posts to this Forum gives a damn if they are “politically correct “ or not. Stay on course. Many us are behind youReactReply - COCurt, or CowboyJul 21, 2010To say that America wants health care reform is both true AND politically correct. To say that America wanted THIS health care reform, is both politically correct, but patently false. Clear ?
ReactReply - JAJackNeilsonOriginal PosterJul 21, 2010
Health care reform may be a political issue but it has nothing to do with the sense in which the term political correctness is used which was the intent of this thread. Please get back on subject and if you wish to discuss health care open a new thread to discuss it. There are a myriad of political subjects which can be discussed but please do it in separate threads.
Thank youReactReply - JAJackNeilsonOriginal PosterJul 22, 2010
If I can't be politically incorrect then can I be empathy challenged?
Sorry, I couldn't resist it.Political correctness rears its head on a national institution:
It has been suggested that certain words of the Canadian National Anthem be changed:
Replace "native" (as in Native Land) with "Cherished"
Replace "Thy sons" (as in All Thy Sons) with "All Of Us)
Replace "God" (as in God Keep Our Land) with "Come Keep Our Land"On March 3, 2010 a plan to "review gender neutral wording" was announced by the Governor General. A poll resulted in a massive outcry by polled Canadians and two days later the Prime Minister' Office announced a cabinet decision to leave the National Anthem alone
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