Political Correctness

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  catbird

  Jul 22, 2010

  [quote][quote]THis thread is NOT about health care reform...it's about political correctness.  Stay on topic please.  If you'd like to debate healthcare refrom start your own thread.   Jen[/quote]   [quote]I'll second that[/quote]  [/quote] I third that.

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• UP

  

  Upstatenude

  Jul 22, 2010

  in my PERSONAL opinion, Politicians are people who will lie to your face, with a smile and expect you to believe it without question..... and to be Politically Correct.. one would be expected to be more like them.... for example... Your not black... your African American No... Your Black... get over it... why complicate Logic with Stupidity?  you will just get Stupidity in return... because logic will always reject stupidity... I can understand not wanting to "hurt people feeling" the problem with that is.... you develop a country of MUSH... everyones feeling are so weak its pitiful its ridiculous!!!  terms like cockpit and fireman, policeman, does the Air Force still have Airmen???? Why change those terms.... how sensitive can people be to really let the word "cockpit" offend them... anyway... Political Correctness just takes everything WAY to far... and makes us all look like bumbling idiots, I personally wouldn't talk to people if they were actually offended by my non-political correctness... Lucky for me, I am not in a position in my life that I actually HAVE to talk to the emotionally "you hurt my feeling, now I'm gonna cry" weak people.

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• GE

  

  Gerry-4

  Aug 3, 2010

  “This is, in theory, still a free country, but our politically correct, censorious times are such that many of us tremble to give vent to perfectly acceptable views for fear of condemnation. Freedom of speech is thereby imperiled, big questions go undebated, and great lies become accepted, unequivocally as great truths.”Simon Heffer in The Daily Mail, 7 June 2000

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• JA

  

  JackNeilsonOriginal Poster

  Aug 3, 2010

  A news story has gone viral here in Canada. A British passenger posted a video on you-tube of Muslim female passengers being boarded on his flight without having to prove their identity (remove veils to show face). The male passengers presented the women's passports, itself a violation as persons are required to present their own passport and the veiled women were allowed to board. Airport workers stated that there is "the lack of a clear policy from airline management, worries about political correctness, and often aggressive behaviour from men travelling with veiled women". This is a security problem not just a cultural one. "Somali Mustaf Jama, wanted for murder and one of Britain's Most Wanted is believed to have fled Britaindressed as a woman wearing a Muslim niqabwhich covers the whole face except for the eyes". In response Canadian Muslims, Islamic organizations and Muslim travelers all expressed surprise  and all agreed that security must trump personal freedoms at all airports. Alia Hogben,a spokesperson for the Canadian Council Of Muslim Women, a well traveled woman and prolific author said "she was astonished to hear that women were able to board a plane without identifying themselves." Many mainstream airline staff report that they are afraid to breach political correctness for fear of adverse reaction from employers resulting in possible censure and even being sued by the offending parties as happened in 2006 when a group of immams were removed from a US Airways flight and later sued the airline. Many veiled women have stated that they would not hesitate to show their face for security purposes, especially to a woman and have stated that "women in the Gulf States are all expected to show their faces. They have a portable screen near the gate, she goes behind the screen. It takes seconds."  In my and many others opinion security must trump a cultural custom which is in itself not a religious one. As Islamic scholar Abourahman Kahin states "Head to toe coverings are not mentioned in the Koran, Canadian law must be paramount at airports, and the security breach highlights the importance of separating religious and cultural norms", a sentiment echoed by nine Muslim organizations across the country, including the Canadian Muslim Forum, Canadian Council of Muslim Women, Muslim Canadian Congress, Council on American-Islamic Relations Canada, and others.   (underlined portion is highlighted in the news report.) Have we become so afraid of being branded racist or bigots due to political correctness that we will endanger the security of our citizens, not to mention the other restrictions political correctness has saddled us with.

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• JA

  

  JackNeilsonOriginal Poster

  Aug 3, 2010

  [quote]It is an important point Jack- and hope the airplay it had will lead the way to clear policies being set so that security concerns will be addressed![/quote]   I should have mentioned that it is in clear violation of regulations and the Canadian Transport Minister has ordered an investigation into the situation. The lack of clear policy from management reported by some airline workers does not reflect the government regulations. 100% of people must be screened at the gate. It is also required that persons must produce their own passport which again is a violation as the male members of the party produced the passports for the females. I was heartened to note that the majority of Muslims see the issue as one of security, not of political correctness or religious/cultural norms.

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• MA

  

  macnude

  Aug 3, 2010

  [quote][quote]Call him a Bulgarian.[/quote]    Aw bless you Ninny- you were the first one in there with a reply!!! Or a troll would that work? What if I were to say I was an american living overseas. Would you feel guilt for insulting a nation? I'm guessing not ;-)[/quote]  Watching, a  good thread possibly disintegrating into another flame fest  makes me wish dueling was still in vogue. The duel, hopefully ending in a tie. Advocating violence may not be “Politically Correct” but then.............. Now can we get back on track?

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• JA

  

  JackNeilsonOriginal Poster

  Aug 3, 2010

  [quote][quote][/quote]    Watching, a  good thread possibly disintegrating into another flame fest  makes me wish dueling was still in vogue. The duel, hopefully ending in a tie. Advocating violence may not be “Politically Correct” but then.............. Now can we get back on track?[/quote] I agree fully. If you need a second for your duel I am available. This seems to be the month for flame wars to break out.

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