"Revolutionary Nudism" by E. Armand

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• ME

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  May 31, 2026

  Yes. Some huge similarities to my beliefs. A lotta what I know about nudism comes from excerpts from Revolutionary Nudism by Armand.

  That book is really good for schools of thought like the anarchist nudist school of thought.

  Try to read it if you can find it. Just try to go to Google books if it is on there. Or just find it at a bookstore or library if you can find it.

  I have only read excerpts from it, but I have seen the name of that book and the author before, which is so refreshing to see folks bring up the name on here. I might try to read it a soon as possible.

  Good stuff folks. good stuff.

  Thanks.

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• ME

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  May 31, 2026

  And Deschenes, the host of Bare Oaks podcast from the Bare Oaks nudist club in canada is very clear to make that point online and offline about clothes, it is a tool of oppression. Very good arguements from Armand's writing and from Deschenes' podcast.

  Everyone on here should take a look at it if they can.

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• ME

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  May 31, 2026

  What an interesting insight. I agree with the view of total or highest level of emancipation ideology.

  But I draw the line on clothing being tools of aggression. The book "Lord of the flies" defines why we as a community have to elect or promote people to certain roles. Without order we have disorder. The need for the roles of 'aggression' are bought about by our own behaviour whether we are clothed or not.

  You only have to observe the behaviour of many males at or near CO beaches to understand that even the nude community, and even if the entire population was nude, to understand why rules and people to enforce them would be and is entirely necessary.

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• ME

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  May 31, 2026

  [quote]What an interesting insight. I agree with the view of total or highest level of emancipation ideology. But I draw the line on clothing being tools of aggression. The book "Lord of the flies" defines why we as a community have to elect or promote people to certain roles. Without order we have disorder. The need for the roles of 'aggression' are bought about by our own behaviour whether we are clothed or not. You only have to observe the behaviour of many males at or near CO beaches to understand that even the nude community, and even if the entire population was nude, to understand why rules and people to enforce them would be and is entirely necessary.[/quote] Yes. Stephene Deschenes, the host of the Bare Oaks' "Naturist Living Show," often tries to point out that "behavior is the same, whether you are clothed or not." That is him telling the truth certainly. People's individual aggression is not the reason we need to wear clothes. We have nothing to lose by shedding clothing, all to gain by shedding clothing. Remember, I said "oppression" and not "aggression" in that sentence. The main point is simply that the oppression is the same, whether you are clothed or nude, meaning that clothes are just a veil often used by non-nudists to cover-up their own behavior through social masking. And their aggresion usually is the same aggression clothed or not, every single time, every single day. Yes, clothing makes it easier to hide their beliefs and behavior than to be open and transparent. We have nothing to lose being nudists, we have everything to gain by being nudists. The police have all the power to surveill and oppress us, but we excuse it by letting them hide what they believe behind authority. Their authority is a vehicle of oppression, and they are eroding the first amendment federally and in the states in government in the United States of America. That is what I specifically am talking about, the abuses of authority and the suppression of freedom and equality. That is what I always look to avoid, the oppression and repression, since that is one of the components of these bad people's aggression. I try to call that out on this website and in protest in public, when I go to protest in public areas wherever and whenever I can. Everyone should read Revolutionary Nudism by Armand. It is often said as a directive to each audience member of the Naturist Living Show Podcast from Canada, "Free Your Body Free Your Mind." I also always try, finally, to say "Get Up,Stand up, Stand up for your rights. Get up, Stand up, Don't give up the fight!" I listen to that song and a few other songs from that time as well.

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• ME

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  Jun 1, 2026

  [quote]What an interesting insight. I agree with the view of total or highest level of emancipation ideology.But I draw the line on clothing being tools of aggression. The book "Lord of the flies" defines why we as a community have to elect or promote people to certain roles. Without order we have disorder. The need for the roles of 'aggression' are bought about by our own behaviour whether we are clothed or not.You only have to observe the behaviour of many males at or near CO beaches to understand that even the nude community, and even if the entire population was nude, to understand why rules and people to enforce them would be and is entirely necessary. Yes. Stephene Deschenes, the host of the Bare Oaks' "Naturist Living Show," often tries to point out that "behavior is the same, whether you are clothed or not." That is him telling the truth certainly. People's individual aggression is not the reason we need to wear clothes. We have nothing to lose by shedding clothing, all to gain by shedding clothing. Remember, I said "oppression" and not "aggression" in that sentence. The main point is simply that the oppression is the same, whether you are clothed or nude, meaning that clothes are just a veil often used by non-nudists to cover-up their own behavior through social masking. And their aggresion usually is the same aggression clothed or not, every single time, every single day. Yes, clothing makes it easier to hide their beliefs and behavior than to be open and transparent. We have nothing to lose being nudists, we have everything to gain by being nudists. The police have all the power to surveill and oppress us, but we excuse it by letting them hide what they believe behind authority. Their authority is a vehicle of oppression, and they are eroding the first amendment federally and in the states in government in the United States of America. That is what I specifically am talking about, the abuses of authority and the suppression of freedom and equality. That is what I always look to avoid, the oppression and repression, since that is one of the components of these bad people's aggression. I try to call that out on this website and in protest in public, when I go to protest in public areas wherever and whenever I can. Everyone should read Revolutionary Nudism by Armand. It is often said as a directive to each audience member of the Naturist Living Show Podcast from Canada, "Free Your Body Free Your Mind." I also always try, finally, to say "Get Up,Stand up, Stand up for your rights. Get up, Stand up, Don't give up the fight!" I listen to that song and a few other songs from that time as well.[/quote] Hi Vince - you did say oppression whereas I said aggression. I guess when you consider the unform of an army it could have the shift from oppression to aggression. The fundamental reasons we have armies is to protect 'what we have' . They were first formed tribally around the production of food sources. Farming and storing grain especially. But the shift came over the last six centuries or so to using the army to attain, aggressively, what other people have. Thats a very long way of saying that a behaviour by a society (farming and storing food) created yet another need (an armed force) and again that need would be warranted even if the entire population was nude. After all there are still indigenous peoples around the world that live fundamentally nude and they still have the need for rules and some sense of order and authority. I find way too many people on here have this ultrasonic belief that living nude will solve everything.

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• ME

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  Jun 8, 2026

  Ya Say Ya Want a Revoluion

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• ME

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  Jun 16, 2026

  [quote]What an interesting insight. I agree with the view of total or highest level of emancipation ideology. But I draw the line on clothing being tools of aggression. The book "Lord of the flies" defines why we as a community have to elect or promote people to certain roles. Without order we have disorder. The need for the roles of 'aggression' are bought about by our own behaviour whether we are clothed or not. You only have to observe the behaviour of many males at or near CO beaches to understand that even the nude community, and even if the entire population was nude, to understand why rules and people to enforce them would be and is entirely necessary.[/quote] Lord of the Flies is afictionalstory, not an analysis of real world occurrences or trends. You can write any fictional story where characters do anything and claim it speaks to some aspect of human behavior, but that does not make it true or reasonable whatsoever. Why you thought it was at all relevant to bring it up here is beyond me. Also, anarchy doesn't at all mean "no rules," "disorder" and "chaos," that's a deliberate distortion perpetuated by the very institutions threatened by idea that we don't need to submit to their "authority."

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