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Posted Aug 11, 2017

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jackOriginal Poster
Aug 11, 2017

I moved to my new location about 4 years ago. I like to have at least one nude day a week. At my old location, my next door neighbor saw me naked through my sliding doors in my kitchen. She was planting flowers by our adjoining fence when she saw me. Later that day she knocked on my door to let me know that I could be seen . When I asked , she said that she was not offended , which was a relief. She told me not to worry about it even after I let her know that I am like this at least one day a week.
My new neighbors were not so understanding when they caught a glimpse of me though the side dining room window. I got a knock on the door telling me to close my blinds when Im walking around in the nude . There goes the thought of sunbathing in the nude on my deck . lol
Does anyone have any similiar stories.

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  • HA
    Half
    Half
    Aug 12, 2017

    Sounds like its time to move.

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  • JA
    jackOriginal Poster
    Aug 12, 2017

    maybe my last neighbour thought the same

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  • NA
    NatureBoy24
    Aug 12, 2017
    [quote]Hey you are legally within the privacy of your own home. [/quote] Are you a lawyer? Licensed to practice in the OP's place of residence? There have been cases of people being charged - and I believe convicted - of indecent exposure while nude in their homes. The one I'm particularly thinking of was a guy drinking coffee in his front window when a mother and child passed by. In many (most? all?) jurisdictions you are considered "in public" if you can be seen from a public place - e.g. the road.
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    Tom
    Tom
    Aug 12, 2017

    The law does vary from jurisdiction to jurisdiction. Here in PA, seeing you naked is all it would take. Neighbors might be understanding, or they might not. Once a report is filed with local law enforcement, it will be investigated.

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  • TO
    Tom
    Tom
    Aug 12, 2017
    Caution needs to be exercised, especially where the textile world interfaces with the naturist world. In this VA case, it cost the accused time to appear over months of court proceedings and he incurred thousands in attorney's fees and court costs for his defense. Intent (not proved) is also written into the laws. According to YNA, Virginia law 18.2-387 Indecent exposure: Every person whointentionallymakes an obscene display or exposure of his person, or the private parts thereof, in any public place, or in any place where others are present, or procures another to so expose himself, shall be guilty of a Class 1 misdemeanor. No person shall be deemed to be in violation of this section for breastfeeding a child in any public place or any place where others are present. Where I live, in PA, 3127. Indecent exposure: (a) Offense defined.A person commits indecent exposure if that person exposes his or her genitals in any public place or in any place where there are present other persons under circumstancesin which he or she knows or should know that this conduct is likely to offend, affront or alarm.
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  • JO
    johnwsliger
    johnwsliger
    Aug 12, 2017
    [quote]Hey you are legally within the privacy of your own home. Are you a lawyer? Licensed to practice in the OP's place of residence? There have been cases of people being charged - and I believe convicted - of indecent exposure while nude in their homes. The one I'm particularly thinking of was a guy drinking coffee in his front window when a mother and child passed by. In many (most? all?) jurisdictions you are considered "in public" if you can be seen from a public place - e.g. the road.[/quote] This guy appealed and it was found that the woman was NOT just passing by and had actually gone onto the man's property and stood on tip-toe to see into his window, He was acquitted. She SHOULD have been charged with trespass an, voyeurism, and invasion of privacy.
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  • JO
    John
    John
    Aug 12, 2017
    [quote] 2) because she was going to miss watching me clean the pool and do yardwork while naked, on the side of the house where she had a view from her upstairs master bedroom. I thought I had plenty of privacy screening but I thought wrong! :D [/quote] If you can see the window, they can see you through the window.... John aka cobeachbum
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  • T=
    Tom === Thomas S. Tierney
    Tom === Thomas S. Tierney
    Aug 12, 2017
    [quote]2) because she was going to miss watching me clean the pool and do yardwork while naked, on the side of the house where she had a view from her upstairs master bedroom. I thought I had plenty of privacy screening but I thought wrong! :D If you can see the window, they can see you through the window.... John aka cobeachbum[/quote]Very well said. So simply put. I wonder why anyone wouldn't know that.
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    NudeJohnny
    NudeJohnny
    Aug 13, 2017

    If you can see the window, they can see you through the window....

    So true!

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  • NA
    NatureBoy24
    Aug 13, 2017

    I think we lost the ball a bit in this thread.

    The OP said the neighbors complained they could see the OP nude through the window. Someone said the OP was within their legal rights being nude in their home. I cited a case indicating that's not necessarily so. Then things seemed to devolve into debating the case I cited.

    The particulars of that case aren't super relevant to the OP's situation. What's relevant is that the neighbors COULD call the police and the OP COULD end up in jail/court/spending lots of $$$/etc. It depends on the particulars of the OP's local laws, what mood the police are in, what mood the local DA is in, and a bunch of other factors. The least dangerous thing to do is say, "Sorry" and keep the blinds closed.

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  • JA
    jackOriginal Poster
    Aug 14, 2017

    thanks for the replies . Makes me wonder if you are on a roof top deck sunbathing nude and a drone flies by and videos you. Who can file the complaint ?

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  • JA
    jackOriginal Poster
    Aug 14, 2017

    thanks for the replies . Makes me wonder if you are on a roof top deck sunbathing nude and a drone flies by and videos you. Who can file the complaint ?

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  • DO
    Don
    Don
    Aug 14, 2017
    May I say that I happen to know that AndyDi lives in California, and specifically, Riverside County. As a former California Peace Officer, I know that there is not a single District Attorney who would file a case on this. The State of California has decided that Nude is not Lewd, and in order for there to be charges filed against someone for being nude, there must be a lewd act involved, IE: someone touching their privates in a sexual manner. If you take reasonable steps to ensure your privacy, and someone takes steps to see you that are above and beyond their normal activity, they can actually be charged for being a peeping Tom.

    True story: In the city I worked in, I was called about an indecent exposure situation, and when I arrived, this 80 year old woman took me into her bathroom (ya'll understand that in California, the houses are often so close together that you can reach out and shake hands with your neighbor... right?), and she went to her open window. I could see that her neighbor's window was open, and could hear the sound of a shower running. This old woman proceeded to stand on top of a step ladder so that she could look down into her neighbor's bathroom, and when he exited the shower to towel himself dry, she shook her head and asked, "what should I do about this?"

    I told her to buy a shorter step ladder and left.

    Don
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  • JE
    John English
    John English
    Aug 15, 2017

    Best thing I did was to talk to my nextdoor neighbor , found out they had no problem with it . Now I do not have to seek around in my own yard

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  • JO
    John
    John
    Aug 15, 2017
    [quote]The law does vary from jurisdiction to jurisdiction. Here in PA, seeing you naked is all it would take. Neighbors might be understanding, or they might not. Once a report is filed with local law enforcement, it will be investigated.[/quote] That sucks
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    Don
    Don
    Aug 17, 2017

    You're welcome Andy. This year would have been a great year to do that nude hike I told you about. I bet the swimming holes are awesome!

    Don

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    outothebakyrd
    outothebakyrd
    Aug 17, 2017

    Makes me wonder now. ?? I may have been seen. None of my neighbors have said anything and one is a police officer. I have a privacy fence 6' tall but that is mainly because I have 3 Rottweilers. Very friendly.

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  • R
    R
    R
    Sep 3, 2017

    We only have one neighbor that lives behind us that could possibly see into our house and we know this because we can see into theirs, mostly at night. We started out by closing the blinds but eventually got out of that habit. We've only been in this house for a year and these neighbors have never been very friendly from the beginning. Not mean or anything just haven't introduced themselves. We never blatantly make our nudity known so it isn't a problem. Our neighbor across from us knows to text before she drops in if she doesn't want to see us nude. lol

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    Paul
    Paul
    Sep 14, 2017
    [quote]It varies significantly depending on which country you are in as well, a lot of posts online in general seem to forget that the 'www.' part of a website address means world wide web[/quote]
    Well on our side of the pond it is far more easy to be nude inside and outside without having to think if someone sees us nude we are doing something wrong.
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  • ME
    Member
    Sep 17, 2017

    Our house was the first one in the village quarter. In this time I began my life as a naturist (or nudist). Ten years later the first neighbours built her house. They saw me often naked in our garden or around our house. They accepted it. Their children saw me, when tey were babies. Their was never any problems.

    Regards from Switzerland

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  • PA
    Paul
    Paul
    Sep 17, 2017
    [quote]Isn't it basically a question of having respect for other people? I know that I can be naked anywhere in the house except one room where one set of neighbours will see me by just looking out of their window. If I know next door neighbours on either side are in then I will only go naked in parts of the garden that I know they can't see by just looking out if their windows. I know they would be uncomfortable with it and we get on well and I don't want to spoil that. If I know they are both out then I will go naked anywhere in the garden because I know anyone who sees me must be really trying to see into my garden, so if they don't like what they see tough. UK law centres on intent to distress people by behaviour, not by being naked in itself. So if they can see me naked only because they are hanging out of their windows then good luck proving intent.[/quote] If you are in your garden you have the right to be nude and if they see you the legal rights are on your side.
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  • SU
    sunnmaxx
    Dec 21, 2017

    Just go ahead and ask her to join you guys in the hot tub.

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  • KS
    Kristina Stumpf
    Kristina Stumpf
    Jan 5, 2018

    I've always lived in areas that were either secluded from my neighbors view or where concrete wall was 8 ft high and only way to see my backyard was to be on a ladder or step stool. This is not to say I haven't been caught or seen by neighbors, UPS delivery, gardeners or pool service workers, etc.; just that when that happens they were intruding and I wasn't doing it intentionally or at least the guilt was on them and not me. Getting caught actually turns me on and sometimes I am quick to cover up, while other times I will just cover my bottom and continue sunning and other times if it's the gardener at the neighbors just pretend I am sleeping or didn't notice.

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  • OL
    Olly
    Olly
    Mar 31, 2018

    Why be angry? Just get naked, lay back and enjoy. If someone intrudes and sees you - they have seen your true self. They are the intruder so have no right to get upset.

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