California Court Rejects Nude Beach Policy

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  GarrettOriginal Poster

  Oct 27, 2009

  And in these tough economic times, people need fun, inexpensive places to go and unwind. What's better than a day at the beach.

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  Weazie

  Oct 27, 2009

  The decision by the courts had little to do with nudity, but rather that the Parks Department's original policy (the "Cahill policy") did not comply with the process of how to create regulations.  It was an invalid policy, but not a forbidden policy; if implemented correctly, it could become valid again.
  As for California, the majority of the voters are democrats, but it is not an overwhelming majority, and there is a strong east-west divide.  Look at the results for any recent election, and you'll notice that the coastal counties tend to vote democrat while the inland counties vote republican.
  As for the current budget woes, the California Constitution requires that the budget be passed by a supermajority.  Although democrats control the California legislature, the reality is that a small group of republicans can filibuster the budgetary process to get what they want.  So the economic crisis is not any one party's fault.

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  Miss_Linda

  Oct 29, 2009

  May I be among the first to welcome Callyfornya into the Bible Belt.

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• GA

  

  GarrettOriginal Poster

  Nov 1, 2009

  Sorry about the link not being a true hyperlink. I had problems with my browser. Safari on the PC won't let me paste in a real link for some reason.

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• GA

  

  GarrettOriginal Poster

  Nov 1, 2009

  I finally figured out how to post a link from another forum.   Here it is again for anyone who missed it:California Court Rejects Nude Beach Policy

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  macnude

  Nov 2, 2009

  [quote]And in these tough economic times, people need fun, inexpensive places to go and unwind. What's better than a day at the beach.[/quote]  This is an edited version of a post which I made over 5 months ago in the South Carolina Nudists Group advocating the establishment of nude, C/O beaches in our state. I think it illustrates how conservative legislators with tight budgets are cutting their own throats, driving potential revenue out of their state and the country.   To the best of my knowledge there are no beaches in South Carolina where we nudists can sunbathe or swim nude without legal repercussions. California and Florida and Hawaii have recognized the economic benefits of designating some beaches as nude or clothing optional.  Over the past several years my wife and I have booked vacations at resorts which have nude pools and beaches. The cost of these one week vacations is typically three to four thousand dollars. While I would prefer to spend the money here in the USA, these trips are usually out of country, Jamaica, Mexico, St. Martin for example.   Assuming, very conservatively, three hundred like minded couples across the entire state, spending that money locally would result in nine hundred thousand to one million-two hundred thousand dollars not leaving the state or country. All for the cost of erecting a couple of signs on the beach stating ; “Anti-nudity laws not enforced beyond this point. Nude bathers may be encountered.”   Special use fees could also be instituted. Say, $ 10.00 per person. A simple colored plastic bracelet, such as used in the all inclusive resorts would indicate at a glance who is authorized to be on the beach. The State could realize additional income of thousands of dollars, per beach, per week. Such a system would also keep the casual gawkers off the beach and that alone would justify the expense to us.   In these dire economic times, can even the most conservative ignore the benefits of designating a nude or clothing optional beach here in South Carolina? I feel that I’m too old to pick up the banner and run with it but if someone out there wants to start a letter writing campaign or start a petition, I will give you my full support.

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  Philfreeeuk

  Nov 19, 2009

  Time for a bump!

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• MI

  

  Miss_Linda

  Nov 30, 2009

  [quote][quote][/quote]  In these dire economic times, can even the most conservative ignore the benefits of designating a nude or clothing optional beach here in South Carolina? I feel that I’m too old to pick up the banner and run with it but if someone out there wants to start a letter writing campaign or start a petition, I will give you my full support.[/quote]   Maybe you could walk at a slow saunter?

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  Miss_Linda

  Feb 5, 2010

  [quote]Textiles, nudists, why can't we all just got along. You let me wear what I want and I won't tell you what to wear.[/quote]    That would be too simple and we'd all have to get along.

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  Thomas

  Feb 5, 2010

  [quote][quote]And in these tough economic times, people need fun, inexpensive places to go and unwind. What's better than a day at the beach.[/quote]   This is an edited version of a post which I made over 5 months ago in the South Carolina Nudists Group advocating the establishment of nude, C/O beaches in our state. I think it illustrates how conservative legislators with tight budgets are cutting their own throats, driving potential revenue out of their state and the country.   To the best of my knowledge there are no beaches in South Carolina where we nudists can sunbathe or swim nude without legal repercussions. California and Florida and Hawaii have recognized the economic benefits of designating some beaches as nude or clothing optional.  Over the past several years my wife and I have booked vacations at resorts which have nude pools and beaches. The cost of these one week vacations is typically three to four thousand dollars. While I would prefer to spend the money here in the USA, these trips are usually out of country, Jamaica, Mexico, St. Martin for example.   Assuming, very conservatively, three hundred like minded couples across the entire state, spending that money locally would result in nine hundred thousand to one million-two hundred thousand dollars not leaving the state or country. All for the cost of erecting a couple of signs on the beach stating ; “Anti-nudity laws not enforced beyond this point. Nude bathers may be encountered.”   Special use fees could also be instituted. Say, $ 10.00 per person. A simple colored plastic bracelet, such as used in the all inclusive resorts would indicate at a glance who is authorized to be on the beach. The State could realize additional income of thousands of dollars, per beach, per week. Such a system would also keep the casual gawkers off the beach and that alone would justify the expense to us.   In these dire economic times, can even the most conservative ignore the benefits of designating a nude or clothing optional beach here in South Carolina? I feel that I’m too old to pick up the banner and run with it but if someone out there wants to start a letter writing campaign or start a petition, I will give you my full support.[/quote] I misssed this when it was first posted, but now that I saw it I wanted to add something.  In Texas a county or state park has to provide something if they charge an access fee.  Hippie Hollow is a clothing optional county park on Lake Travis and it costs $8 and you can get a yearly pass for those who go a lot.  They have restrooms available, a nice paved path overlooking the lake, and stairs down from the path.  There is even a handicap ramp near one of the restrooms.  I don't know the exact economic impact, but on an average summer weekend day there are between 400 and 600 people there.  While a lot of the regulars there live close to Austin, I have met people from all over the state there.  Thomas

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  Cheri Donna Dawson

  Feb 5, 2010

  How about a letter writing campaign to the the Tourism commission in SC or NC or whatever state?
  I've even spoken to the chairman of the Judiciary committee here who was supposed to pass on the info to them.  I think everyone needs a refresher and the $ that could be added to the state coffers.
  Cheri

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  blueiron35

  Feb 5, 2010

  Isnt it amazing that a State with a governor who was an actor, movie star, had no political background and posed nude makes such a fuss about nude beaches.

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  Wolf

  Feb 5, 2010

  [quote]"If you had absolute power to do anything at all in order to address a state's financial woes, what would you do?" It's amazing how that question leads to hemming and hawing.[/quote]  The first and most important thing I would do is become major hardcore on removing illegal aliens and getting rid of the anchor baby law.

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  Wolf

  Feb 5, 2010

  [quote]May I be among the first to welcome Callyfornya into the Bible Belt.[/quote]  We like to think of it as the Girdle of the Goddess

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  blueiron35

  Feb 5, 2010

  I agree DarkMoonWolf. Too many "freebies" being handed out.

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  macnude

  Feb 5, 2010

  [quote]How about a letter writing campaign to the the Tourism commission in SC or NC or whatever state? I've even spoken to the chairman of the Judiciary committee here who was supposed to pass on the info to them.  I think everyone needs a refresher and the $ that could be added to the state coffers. Cheri[/quote]  A group has been formed for nudists who wish to see anti-nudity laws changed.http://www.truenudists.com/group/1296/. To preserve the nude/CO beaches which still exist, it is necessary to become proactive in their support. I have encouraged TNs to read and comment on this TV story which aired last April regarding the enforcement of the anti-nudity law on a beach what was accepted as C/O.http://www.wwaytv3.com/no_birthday_suits_just_bathing_suits_bird_island/04/2009There has been some success in getting a dialog started. Please join in Additionally, I e-mailed the following to the Brunswick County,  NC  Board which issued the enforcement order. Gentleman of the Board,   I am writing in reference to the Board’s decision to enforce the anti-nudity law on Bird Island. TV3s coverage may be found here: http://www.wwaytv3.com/no_birthday_suits_just_bathing_suits_bird_island/04/2009   In an economy which is shaky, at best, I can’t help but wonder if the Board considered the possible negative effect that the enforcement of the anti-nudity law on Bird Island could have on the local area.  Nude tourism has been growing year by year, slowed, now, only by the recession. Many area residents may spend their recreational dollar elsewhere, just for the opportunity to skinny dip in the ocean. Tourists from neighboring states, who may wish to include a day at a clothing optional beach in their vacation plans may skip the Grand Stand and travel instead to Florida, New Jersey, California, Hawaii or the Caribbean.   Many have participated in at one time or another and perceive skinny dipping as harmless, innocent fun. Surveys, taken elsewhere, have shown that the vast majority of the public have no objection to the establishment of clothing optional beaches in designated areas.    While it is clear that nude sunbathing or skinny dipping is not legal under NC state law, is continued enforcement on this isolated stretch of beach in the best interest of the Brunswick county and the Grand Strand?   It should be noted that should the Board see fit to rescind the enforcement order, private funding can be obtained to replacing the signage which once existed warning the “Nude Bathers May be Encountered Past This Point”.   Thank you for your consideration of these observations. Yours truly, Arthur Johnson Deleated, SC    To date I have recieved no response!

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  blueiron35

  Feb 16, 2010

  Thought we could all read Arts letter again.

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• ME

  Member

  Oct 2, 2013

  This month, October 2013http://naturistaction.org/AlertsAdvisoriesUpdates/ALERTS/CA_2013_Parks_Forward_10-01-13/ca_2013_parks_forward_10-01-13.htmlWe're Attending [ck]

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  outothebakyrd

  Oct 2, 2013

  Move.

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