Chat Room Moderator FAQS — Rules for posting in here on True Nudists

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Sep 8, 2010

CHAT ROOM MODERATOR FAQSQuite a bit of time seems to be taken up in the chat room with question and answer sessions with the moderators. This becomes repetitive and breaks up the flow of conversation so we’ve put together a list of the most frequently asked questions:Who are the chat room moderators?The chat room moderators are long time members of the site and frequent users of the chat room. We are male, female, married, single or couples ranging in age from 25 – 66, we are from the United States (three different time zones), the United Kingdom and Australia.Why does TN now have chat room moderators?Because Teamtrue1 (the owner of this site) decided it was necessary.Who chose the moderators?TT1 (Teamtrue1 – the site owner).How were the moderators chosen?Some applied, some were nominated and some were asked by TT1.Are the moderators paid?No. We are volunteers. But maybe we’ll get a Christmas bonus! (Just kidding TT1)Are the moderators on TT1’s”friends list”?Some of us are and some of us aren’t.Will you put in a good word for me so that I can become a moderator?If you’ve applied or have been nominated and TT1 feels it’s necessary to add more chat room moderators, we’re sure he’ll come to us if he wants our opinion. If one of us decides they no longer want the responsibility, we might offer a recommendation as a replacement.Why did someone get “muted” or "kicked" from the chat room?Because they broke one of the six rules that TT1 has asked all to agree to before entering the chat room. Other than that, it is a private issue between the offender, the moderator and TT1. Please don’t ask us. If we had an issue with you, I’m sure you would appreciate us not discussing it with other people in the chat room.How long does a "mute" or "kick" last?A "mute" lasts for 60 seconds. A kick lasts for 24 - 48 hours. Please don't ask us to change the time limits. We can't. Only TT1(site admin) has that ability.What are the rules?If you are in the chat room, you’ve had to click on a button (directly below the six rules) that says:I agree. Please let me in.But just in case you’ve missed them or if you are not a chat room user here, they are (although, the rules are simple enough, there are some who don’t quite seem to understand them or feel that they are open to interpretation so we have annotated the rules):Chat Room Rules and Regulations: 1. No Sexual Discussion, or Sexual Activities on Chat (No Sexual Discussion – this means no talk about fetish’s, masturbation, sexual positions, sexual fantasies, what you’d like to “do” to someone, how you want to “do” it, etc. No asking others to stand up, twirl, describe themselves or their spouses, or their spouses’ measurements, solicit males or females to get on cam, etc. You get the picture. Does this mean you’ll get muted for an off color joke or bawdy humor? No. All the members here are adults and have a wonderful sense of humor. No Sexual Activities on Chat – this means no masturbating, no erections, no having sex, no fondling or stroking your penis, your breasts or your partner, no tying your breasts up, etc. (ON CAM) 2. No Crotch Shots. Faces on cam please. (No crotch shots – this means do not point your cam at your crotch, do not make your crotch the focal point of your cam. Faces on cam please – ummm…can’t believe we have to explain this one, but…it’s one of the most argued points in chat. Your face must be visible on the cam. The rest of your body can be visible as long as your face is on cam. This is not a question just because the word please is being used. It is a polite way of telling you that your face must be visible on cam. Afraid of screen captures or video recordings? All of the mods understand this and you have a choice, follow rule number three) 3. If you do not want to be seen on your cam. Do not use it. Your cam is visible to all users. (No explanation is necessary.) 4. Please talk nice. No trolling. (No insulting or being rude to other users, refrain from vulgarities, no inciting fights or arguments, no challenging moderator’s or badgering them for answers – this is disruptive to the flow of chat. If you have an issue or a question regarding a rule or a moderator address it to site admin (TT1) atsupport@truenudists.com) 5. Flag users who do not follow the rules. (These rules were written before the assignment of moderators – you now have another choice, you can flag the offender OR you can report them to a moderator in a private message) 6. Have Fun! (Chat can be a really fun place to meet other nudists from around the world, help “newdbies” and to educate those who are curious about nudism/naturism. A side note, if breaking rules 1 - 4 is your idea of having fun, then you might want to find another chat room)What does trolling mean?Trolling is posting inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum, chat room, or blog, with the primary intent of provoking other users into a desired emotional response or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion. Deliberately posting a provocative message to a newsgroup, message board or chat room with the intention of causing maximum disruption and argument.(sources: wikipedia.com, urbandictionary.com)Why is this rule or that rule in place?Because those are the rules that TT1 (site admin) wants for his chat room. Please don't try to debate these rules with the moderators. If you have an issue with a particular rule, please contact site admin. The moderators did not make up the rules nor can we change them, we were asked by TT1 to make sure they were complied with.Do the moderators have rules and guidelines to follow?Yes, we do.What are the moderator’s guidelines?At this time, those guidelines are between TT1 and the moderators. He will address this question if he chooses to.Can moderators see “private chats”?No. And we really don’t want to. As long as both parties are agreeable to the conversation, the conversation you have with another user in private is just that - private. However, chat room rules still apply in private conversations. If someone complains about your conversation or questions while in private chat and they inform the moderator’s, we can help them.Can moderators see cams that are set to “private chat”?No. However, the chat room rules still apply on private cam. If someone complains about your actions while on private cam and they inform the moderator’s, we can help them. Remember No means No, even in private.What do I do if someone is saying things to me or showing me things privately that I don’t want to read or see?You have a few options. You can block the user so that they can no longer chat with you and click out of the private chat. You can copy and paste what they are saying to you and put it in a flag message to TT1. If you feel it needs immediate attention you can copy and paste the conversation into a private message to a moderator – they have the means to immediately mute or kick the person if they are breaking any of the rules or being offensive. Please use the copy and paste if you go to a moderator – we do need proof that the person is being offensive or breaking the chat room rules if we are to take action. You can copy and paste from “private chat”, or go to the chat history icon above the room list, and copy from the message history.Can moderators do anything about a “fake” profile or inappropriate pictures? Can moderators speed up the picture approval process?No. We can not take immediate action on those issues. We are chat room moderators NOT site moderators. We can only recommend that you go to the offender’s profile and use the flag button on their profile to report what you think may be a violation, issue or concern. Make sure you state a valid reason for flagging them. False flagging can get you banned from the site. As far as picture approval is concerned – it can take a couple of hours to a couple of days for one’s pictures to be approved. There is nothing we can do to speed this up.Please understand if a moderator will not speak in “private chat” with you. It distracts us from our responsibilities and is one of the downfalls of this job. It is easier and less distracting for some of us to communicate in a “whisper” when we wish to have private words with a friend. We are all trying to reserve the “private chat” as a place for people to come to us if they have a problem. Also, please, if a mod asks you to make a simple adjustment to your cam, don't spend 10-20 minutes arguing with us about it. That keeps us from dealing with the REAL problems in chat. Remember, the moderators are people and members just like every one else. We are on TN and in the chat room because we enjoy the site, enjoy making friends and enjoy getting to know people via the chat room. We do NOT enjoy muting or kicking. We’d all really prefer not to have to take those measures. Please, make our job easy for us!This message was approved by Teamtrue1 (TT1) - Site Admin

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Thomas
Sep 8, 2010
[quote]We love the mods. they are doing a kick ass job.[/quote] Thanks for the kind words, we try to do our best.
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MemberOriginal Poster
Sep 9, 2010
needs to stay on home page for a bit
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renebbare
Sep 9, 2010
[quote]We love the mods. they are doing a kick ass job.[/quote]In agreement.
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Philfreeeuk
Sep 9, 2010
Good job! ... Jen, I'll link this in to thecomputer club FAQ's.This old box still won't let me go and play in the chat room, but I'm hearing that it's a million times better now. This is one message I received, from one very happy bunny. "Just droppin by to see how its going. Wish you could see the change that Mods in the chatroom have made. I actually enjoy chatting now. No more fights, jerkin off on cam or any of that other bull." After all the hassle, this is sooooooooo good to hear, maybe now, the ladies will stick around long enough to see what a GREAT site, AND, what a great community, this really is. Phil.
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MemberOriginal Poster
Sep 9, 2010
Thanks everyone! It's great to get positive feedback. While I understand that not everyone is happy or in agreement with the chat room being moderated, it's nice to know there are those who are seeing a positive change and are coming back to chat.

Phil, thank you for sharing that message.

Jen
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ME
Member
Sep 9, 2010
[quote]Thanks everyone! It's great to get positive feedback. While I understand that not everyone is not happy or in agreement with the chat room being moderated, it's nice to know there are those who are seeing a positive change and are coming back to chat. Phil, thank you for sharing that message. Jen[/quote] Excellent explanation of the mod''s job. However, the face answer is a bit fuzzy, lmao! Speaking of fuzzy, IMHO, I suggest Steve be know as the "The Big Bunny" when he is on duty as Mod. Of course, you may remain the "SnuggleBunny" when on duty. "Big Bunny", I do apologize for the disagreement I had with you in the chat room. Please accept my apology, I should have locked heads with you in pm or pc .my error, my fault.
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blueiron35
Sep 9, 2010
The mods are definately making a huge difference. Great to see them taking time out of their days to help keep the site friendly for everyone.
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Philfreeeuk
Sep 9, 2010
[quote]Thanks everyone! It's great to get positive feedback. While I understand that not everyone is not happy or in agreement with the chat room being moderated, it's nice to know there are those who are seeing a positive change and are coming back to chat. Phil, thank you for sharing that message. Jen[/quote] I can't imagine why any decent true nudist would be unhappy that the chat room is now moderated. Surely if they are, it can only be because they want to conduct themselves in a manner that contravenes the rules, and if that's the case, they should not be in there. Simple. The only reason that I can think of, is that if a moderator were to get too heavy handed. I can't see that happening, but if it were to, I'm quite sure that the other mods would be quick to deal with him/her. Phil. btw, even though I can't use it, I'm so glad that it's been sorted, it makes the whole site, a much more desirable place to be.
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blueiron35
Sep 9, 2010
Sure would be a blast if we could get you in there Phil!
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catbird
Sep 9, 2010
I too think that the moderators are doing an excellent job. I had quit using the chat room. I have now come back to the chat room.
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MemberOriginal Poster
Sep 10, 2010
A must read for all wanting to participate in chat, it's fun in there again/now!
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Cheri Donna Dawson
Sep 10, 2010
Yesterday was my first visit to the chat room in a VERY long time. It was relaxing and fun. When I told one person who PMd me that I prefer to chat in the room, he stopped.
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Member
Sep 10, 2010
[quote]Yesterday was my first visit to the chat room in a VERY long time. It was relaxing and fun. When I told one person who PMd me that I prefer to chat in the room, he stopped. [/quote] I enjoyed our brief chat andam glad you may come back more often.I agree we need to have people in the public chat. Too many are using PM, Whisper, or going completely under the radar with private video. The private video has it's own problems but at least it will not be overt in the public chat room.
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limestone26
Sep 10, 2010
I may just try the chat room again, Snuggle.
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renebbare
Sep 11, 2010
I find the constant listing of joiners and eavers to the room makes it difficult to chat easily in the open room. It would be helpful to be able to turn this off[/quote] I have to go with you on that one it disturbs me as I am reading the posts.
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riya222222
Sep 15, 2010
If you locked my chat room. Then what can i do for unlock.
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Member
Sep 15, 2010
TN has grown to be the worlds leading nudist website much in part due to the way it has evolved in a manner of being a nudist site formed by nudists for nudists. In a manner of speaking we are the mods with our flagging system implemented by TT1, so even if we see abuse coming from a mod do not hesitate to flag their actions, as we have done because TT1 knows they are just as human as every one else. So we are the mods for the mods! you can also download the printkey program to capture screen events of their actions the same as they do and report it as abuse. All of the Mods are only over the CHAT section of TN, and any mod madness in the forum has only the same power as any other user to flag people, they do however congregate together to flag in concert things they feel may be in violation of the TOS or photo guidelines. However some of them have failed to clearly understand the written guidelines and try to use their own interpretations that defy the guidelines as written by TT1. If you feel that they have altered from the written guidelines you should as many of us are doing flag them for abuse of power. If you can not find a free screen capture program ask me and I will Google it for you and give you the URL. Do your part to keep TN the fastest growing and leading nudist website on the internet. BTW most of the mods are doing a great job for the most part in the CHAT rooms
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MemberOriginal Poster
Sep 15, 2010
Out of respect for each member and to protect everyone's privacy we will NOT discuss publicly why ANY ONE was kicked out of the room. That is an issue between the moderator, the member and TT1. If anyone feels that they have been abused by ANY moderator we encourage them to report it to site admin at abuse@truenudists.com. Keep in mind, that we fully document exactly why any one has been kicked out in case TT1 has any questions.
If any one has been permanently banned from the chat room or removed from the site, that was a choice made by site admin. Moderators do NOT have that ability.
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blueiron35
Sep 16, 2010
I have said it before and ill say it again. The mods are doing a great job. Like anything else in life there will be a few glitches with the system set up, it doesnt change the fact that the mods have made a huge difference in the way the room is moving now. I have yet to hear of anyone blocked without a warning message. So when you get a warning, guess what, your doing something wrong. Holy crap, that is simple folks. There is never going to be a way to keep everyone happy at the same time about every aspect of the site, thats not a possibility.
The mods were put in place by TT1, it was not a spur of the moment thing. This has been a topic for as long as I have been here. TT1 knows who he placed in the positions, he watched them in the chatroom, he watched their posts, he knows them through messages and emails. If he did not feel as though they were right for the job then they wouldnt be mods. As has been said before, this is a private site and the owner has placed those he feels are right for the positions where he needs them.
The rules are very clearly outlined before you enter the chatroom. If while in chat you receive a warning, message or anything else from a mod then simply do as you are asked. Give this a little time to have all the kinks worked out and see how much better it can be.
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Member
Sep 16, 2010
[quote][quote]Out of respect for each member and to protect everyone's privacy we will NOT discuss publicly why ANY ONE was kicked out of the room. That is an issue between the moderator, the member and TT1. If anyone feels that they have been abused by ANY moderator we encourage them to report it to site admin at abuse@truenudists.com. Keep in mind, that we fully document exactly why any one has been kicked out in case TT1 has any questions. If any one has been permanently banned from the chat room or removed from the site, that was a choice made by site admin. Moderators do NOT have that ability.[/quote] Ok, this I understand. But I have a question here. How come the same respect for everyone's privacy is not shown when it comes to flagging individuals for alleged profile and picture violations. Ok, I think the process by which one flags somebody for breaking the rules is useful and serves a good purpose on TN. Where I see a problem is when notices are put up in forums such as 'Another Day, Another Flagging 2', their purpose being to bring atttention to an alleged rule breaker so others can flag this individual. This is all fine and good but what about the instances where after the person has been flagged TT1 decides that the person hasnt broken any rules and their pictures remain and no action is taken again this person despite having been flagged multiple times? What happens then is the person is then branded on this site for having broken a rule when our site administrator has decided that this isn't the case. A forum post is then left up regarding the persons alleged 'offence' forever to be read by other certified readers. Can someone address the issue of privacy in this instance?[/quote] This is a very important issue you bring up cesssez, and we see it is not being addressed well. We record the URL's that they post flaggings when we can see and think the pics are in compliance to TT rules, some appear questionable, so we record the URSL's and give it a week or so and if we go back and see that those allegation pictures are still posted we have a more clear interpretation of what TT means as written in the websites guidelines. Perhaps we will post sometime our collective results so others can see what has been flagged wrongfully and what is in compliance. It is clear some of the mods moderate on others sites as well as here thus some of them might inadvertently use rules from other sites and not be accurate to this sites rules and guidelines, as it is clear the mods are in a refining state as we and TN progress. Posts like yours and ours help the refining process, so keep up posting your concerns they are much needed during this refining process.
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Philfreeeuk
Sep 16, 2010
Very well said, Jane (#33), Blue #34) and R & B (#36) (Love that last comment :) ________________________________________________________ [quote]Ok, this I understand. But I have a question here. How come the same respect for everyone's privacy is not shown when it comes to flagging individuals for alleged profile and picture violations. Ok, I think the process by which one flags somebody for breaking the rules is useful and serves a good purpose on TN. Where I see a problem is when notices are put up in forums such as 'Another Day, Another Flagging 2', their purpose being to bring atttention to an alleged rule breaker so others can flag this individual. This is all fine and good but what about the instances where after the person has been flagged TT1 decides that the person hasnt broken any rules and their pictures remain and no action is taken again this person despite having been flagged multiple times? What happens then is the person is then branded on this site for having broken a rule when our site administrator has decided that this isn't the case. A forum post is then left up regarding the persons alleged 'offence' forever to be read by other certified readers. Can someone address the issue of privacy in this instance?[/quote] Cess, it's called "freedom of speech" Bad behaviour, does not attract and encourage respect. In any case, profiles are anonymous, unless you choose to disclose your identity. Imho, the chat room is not as public, as the rest of the site, offences are usually far more serious and therefore potentially more embarrassing. It is only fit and proper, that they should be dealt with in private. With regard to the rest of the site. Where complaints are subjective, if the picture or alleged offence remains, then it is obvious that TT does not consider it requires removal. Imho, this is akin to being found not guilty. As you know, ... there is always the option to change username or even create a new profile. If TT were of the opinion that this practise is undesirable, he would probably have deleted the"Another Day, Another flagging"thread. by now, and he continues to have that option. This is a private site, we all agree to abide by the owners rules and philosophy. If we disagree, we have the option to complain in writing, and if not satisfied with the result, are free to leave. ______________________________________________________ [quote]This is a very important issue you bring up cesssez, and we see it is not being addressed well. We record the URL's that they post flaggings when we can see and think the pics are in compliance to TT rules, some appear questionable, so we record the URSL's and give it a week or so and if we go back and see that those allegation pictures are still posted we have a more clear interpretation of what TT means as written in the websites guidelines. Perhaps we will post sometime our collective results so others can see what has been flagged wrongfully and what is in compliance. It is clear some of the mods moderate on others sites as well as here thus some of them might inadvertently use rules from other sites and not be accurate to this sites rules and guidelines, as it is clear the mods are in a refining state as we and TN progress. Posts like yours and ours help the refining process, so keep up posting your concerns they are much needed during this refining process.[/quote] Vic, and/or Jane, "WRONGFUL FLAGGING" ? ... Now I'M, ...... ROFLMAO. You are wasting your time. TT clearly states on his blog: 3000 users!!! October 23rd, 2008http://www.truenudists.com/blog/[quote]2. Help patrol the site. This is probably the most useful thing any user can do. Pervs creep in when users allow it.If someone is acting sexually or inappropriate please flag their profile.There is also a place to specify what they have done to deserve the flagging. Please use it.[/quote] He is clearly asking us to flag, when, IN OUR OPINION, someone is acting inappropriately. Therefore, if we think it deserves a flag, it CANNOT be wrong. Wrongful flagging, is a complete "None Issue" IRRELEVANT.It is TT who makes the decisions, no one else!If anyone is insensitive or bloody minded enough to offend the membership, they run the risk of being flagged, and making an appearance on the"Another Day, Another flagging"thread. No doubt the number of flags that a profile gets, helps TT to gauge the memberships opinion, therefore by bringing an incident to the members attention, will help in this process, and may even act as a deterrent.
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Philfreeeuk
Sep 17, 2010
[quote]Some time ago, you flagged a friend of mine and published her name in this forum. This was about two weeks ago. she even replied in the forum to ask what you thought she had done wrong. Anyway, all well and good. You thought there was a violation of rules and you flagged her which you have every right to do and fair enough. But your complaint was not upheld by TT1. And the photo which you deemed as inappropriate still remains on her profile. The profile has not been modified at all. So now it would appear that my friend has broken no rules and done nothing wrong as determined by the site administrator.[/quote] I assume you are talking about comment #20, as this is the only one to reply. In this instance, I'm afraid you are most definitely, very much mistaken. As stated in the update, she immediately changed her profile pic, and either deleted or set the offending one to "friends only" AND then had the cheek to ask what she had done wrong. My response was to ignore her comment and repost the updated. Comment #31. As to the rest, we will have to agree to disagree. I stand by my actions. I will of course be guided by TT, should he wish to make his position known, and listen to anyone who feels they have a justifiable complaint, I do make mistakes. Interestingly, no one else has complained.
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Curt, or Cowboy
Oct 2, 2010
Site bug
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Curt, or Cowboy
Oct 2, 2010
[quote]Bunny I have to disagree that "freedom of speech does not apply on a privately owned site" TOTALLY incorrect, freedom of speech applies to everywhere in the free world. [/quote] While I agree with most of what you say, on this point you are wrong. Internet is international by nature, crosses jurisdictions, etc. THIS site happens to be hosted in a "free" country in some part of the "free world" but the same can not be said for ALL of the members, or visitors. What may well be allowed and acceptable in San Francisco, is not necessarily allowed or acceptable in Singapoor, or Cairo, or Moscow. Free speech does NOT necessarily apply. In fact, "free speech" is merely an abstract idea codified within the USA, and perhaps a few other jurisdictions, but is not universally applicable the world over. We are still subject to the political restrictions of the jurisdiction where we happen to be at the moment. Any website is subject to the restrictions of the hosting jurisdiction at a minimum. A privately owned site, such as this one, is much like the owner's living room, and therefore subject to the additional restrictions placed by the owner, reasonable or not, whatever they are. This owner has imposed certain rules, most of which I've no issue with. That's his option. THIS owner has decided to empower certain individuals with certain responsibilities, subject to the owner's approval. That one or more of those individuals may or may not act in accord with what you or I think may be apropo in any given situation is irrelevant. That's between the mods and the owner. This owner has instituted a flagging system. His option, and that's fine. That it may, or may not, encourage behaviour that you or I might see as juvinile is also irrelevant. It's the closest thing to self-police while preventing anarchy as he could come, in his opinion, I suppose. The bottom line is that, just like in my living room, there is no "free speech." There are the freedoms that the owner allows. No more, and perhaps less depending on the jurisdiction where you are at the moment. It may or may not be in the "free" world.
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