Chat Room Moderator FAQS — Rules for posting in here on True Nudists

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Sep 8, 2010

CHAT ROOM MODERATOR FAQSQuite a bit of time seems to be taken up in the chat room with question and answer sessions with the moderators. This becomes repetitive and breaks up the flow of conversation so we’ve put together a list of the most frequently asked questions:Who are the chat room moderators?The chat room moderators are long time members of the site and frequent users of the chat room. We are male, female, married, single or couples ranging in age from 25 – 66, we are from the United States (three different time zones), the United Kingdom and Australia.Why does TN now have chat room moderators?Because Teamtrue1 (the owner of this site) decided it was necessary.Who chose the moderators?TT1 (Teamtrue1 – the site owner).How were the moderators chosen?Some applied, some were nominated and some were asked by TT1.Are the moderators paid?No. We are volunteers. But maybe we’ll get a Christmas bonus! (Just kidding TT1)Are the moderators on TT1’s”friends list”?Some of us are and some of us aren’t.Will you put in a good word for me so that I can become a moderator?If you’ve applied or have been nominated and TT1 feels it’s necessary to add more chat room moderators, we’re sure he’ll come to us if he wants our opinion. If one of us decides they no longer want the responsibility, we might offer a recommendation as a replacement.Why did someone get “muted” or "kicked" from the chat room?Because they broke one of the six rules that TT1 has asked all to agree to before entering the chat room. Other than that, it is a private issue between the offender, the moderator and TT1. Please don’t ask us. If we had an issue with you, I’m sure you would appreciate us not discussing it with other people in the chat room.How long does a "mute" or "kick" last?A "mute" lasts for 60 seconds. A kick lasts for 24 - 48 hours. Please don't ask us to change the time limits. We can't. Only TT1(site admin) has that ability.What are the rules?If you are in the chat room, you’ve had to click on a button (directly below the six rules) that says:I agree. Please let me in.But just in case you’ve missed them or if you are not a chat room user here, they are (although, the rules are simple enough, there are some who don’t quite seem to understand them or feel that they are open to interpretation so we have annotated the rules):Chat Room Rules and Regulations: 1. No Sexual Discussion, or Sexual Activities on Chat (No Sexual Discussion – this means no talk about fetish’s, masturbation, sexual positions, sexual fantasies, what you’d like to “do” to someone, how you want to “do” it, etc. No asking others to stand up, twirl, describe themselves or their spouses, or their spouses’ measurements, solicit males or females to get on cam, etc. You get the picture. Does this mean you’ll get muted for an off color joke or bawdy humor? No. All the members here are adults and have a wonderful sense of humor. No Sexual Activities on Chat – this means no masturbating, no erections, no having sex, no fondling or stroking your penis, your breasts or your partner, no tying your breasts up, etc. (ON CAM) 2. No Crotch Shots. Faces on cam please. (No crotch shots – this means do not point your cam at your crotch, do not make your crotch the focal point of your cam. Faces on cam please – ummm…can’t believe we have to explain this one, but…it’s one of the most argued points in chat. Your face must be visible on the cam. The rest of your body can be visible as long as your face is on cam. This is not a question just because the word please is being used. It is a polite way of telling you that your face must be visible on cam. Afraid of screen captures or video recordings? All of the mods understand this and you have a choice, follow rule number three) 3. If you do not want to be seen on your cam. Do not use it. Your cam is visible to all users. (No explanation is necessary.) 4. Please talk nice. No trolling. (No insulting or being rude to other users, refrain from vulgarities, no inciting fights or arguments, no challenging moderator’s or badgering them for answers – this is disruptive to the flow of chat. If you have an issue or a question regarding a rule or a moderator address it to site admin (TT1) atsupport@truenudists.com) 5. Flag users who do not follow the rules. (These rules were written before the assignment of moderators – you now have another choice, you can flag the offender OR you can report them to a moderator in a private message) 6. Have Fun! (Chat can be a really fun place to meet other nudists from around the world, help “newdbies” and to educate those who are curious about nudism/naturism. A side note, if breaking rules 1 - 4 is your idea of having fun, then you might want to find another chat room)What does trolling mean?Trolling is posting inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum, chat room, or blog, with the primary intent of provoking other users into a desired emotional response or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion. Deliberately posting a provocative message to a newsgroup, message board or chat room with the intention of causing maximum disruption and argument.(sources: wikipedia.com, urbandictionary.com)Why is this rule or that rule in place?Because those are the rules that TT1 (site admin) wants for his chat room. Please don't try to debate these rules with the moderators. If you have an issue with a particular rule, please contact site admin. The moderators did not make up the rules nor can we change them, we were asked by TT1 to make sure they were complied with.Do the moderators have rules and guidelines to follow?Yes, we do.What are the moderator’s guidelines?At this time, those guidelines are between TT1 and the moderators. He will address this question if he chooses to.Can moderators see “private chats”?No. And we really don’t want to. As long as both parties are agreeable to the conversation, the conversation you have with another user in private is just that - private. However, chat room rules still apply in private conversations. If someone complains about your conversation or questions while in private chat and they inform the moderator’s, we can help them.Can moderators see cams that are set to “private chat”?No. However, the chat room rules still apply on private cam. If someone complains about your actions while on private cam and they inform the moderator’s, we can help them. Remember No means No, even in private.What do I do if someone is saying things to me or showing me things privately that I don’t want to read or see?You have a few options. You can block the user so that they can no longer chat with you and click out of the private chat. You can copy and paste what they are saying to you and put it in a flag message to TT1. If you feel it needs immediate attention you can copy and paste the conversation into a private message to a moderator – they have the means to immediately mute or kick the person if they are breaking any of the rules or being offensive. Please use the copy and paste if you go to a moderator – we do need proof that the person is being offensive or breaking the chat room rules if we are to take action. You can copy and paste from “private chat”, or go to the chat history icon above the room list, and copy from the message history.Can moderators do anything about a “fake” profile or inappropriate pictures? Can moderators speed up the picture approval process?No. We can not take immediate action on those issues. We are chat room moderators NOT site moderators. We can only recommend that you go to the offender’s profile and use the flag button on their profile to report what you think may be a violation, issue or concern. Make sure you state a valid reason for flagging them. False flagging can get you banned from the site. As far as picture approval is concerned – it can take a couple of hours to a couple of days for one’s pictures to be approved. There is nothing we can do to speed this up.Please understand if a moderator will not speak in “private chat” with you. It distracts us from our responsibilities and is one of the downfalls of this job. It is easier and less distracting for some of us to communicate in a “whisper” when we wish to have private words with a friend. We are all trying to reserve the “private chat” as a place for people to come to us if they have a problem. Also, please, if a mod asks you to make a simple adjustment to your cam, don't spend 10-20 minutes arguing with us about it. That keeps us from dealing with the REAL problems in chat. Remember, the moderators are people and members just like every one else. We are on TN and in the chat room because we enjoy the site, enjoy making friends and enjoy getting to know people via the chat room. We do NOT enjoy muting or kicking. We’d all really prefer not to have to take those measures. Please, make our job easy for us!This message was approved by Teamtrue1 (TT1) - Site Admin

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Curt, or Cowboy
Oct 2, 2010
[quote]I'm sorry mate you are wrong. Once you set up a site on the WWW it is not really "owned" by anyone. When you allow others to join or participate then you accept that they have freedom of speech and a say in the way things operate. That is the fact. Human nature means that people do not like to have someone dictate to them.[/quote] No sir !! The owner remains the owner, and supreme dictator. That the "public" is allowed to visit does not change that. While it *may* be a bad idea to excessively restrict the exchange of ideas ( as demonstrated by the failure of other sites, and many governments ) it remains the option of the owner. The owner does not by default relinquish any dictatorial authority, though he does take on the responsibility regardless. People may not like being dictated to, but they always have the option ( on a web site ) to leave. Poorly managed, the site may not be a success, but that does not change the fact that it *is* the owners option, rightly or wrongly.
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Thomas
Oct 2, 2010
Freedom of Speech is going off topic of this thread, but the site owner can set guidelines but the ones here are just to keep it friendly.

In reference to full nudity being allowed in pics but not on cams, it is allowed on cams also. You just have to have your face on cam and nothing sexual.
Thomas
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Curt, or Cowboy
Oct 2, 2010
[quote] some members wrongly think they can get away with any nude pose as long as their face is somewhere in the distance.[/quote] Though I don't do chat, based entirely on forum content, I suspected as much !
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Thomas
Oct 2, 2010
[quote][quote]Freedom of Speech is going off topic of this thread, but the site owner can set guidelines but the ones here are just to keep it friendly. In reference to full nudity being allowed in pics but not on cams, it is allowed on cams also. You just have to have your face on cam and nothing sexual. Thomas [/quote] And Thomas, as said in rule #2, no crotch shots. The confusion lies in what you just said, and some members wrongly think they can get away with any nude pose as long as their face is somewhere in the distance.[/quote] A crotch shot is one where the crotch is the primary focus of the cam. The person's face being closer to cam should not require a tape measure to check, it shoud be clearly a lot farther.
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Curt, or Cowboy
Oct 3, 2010
[quote]CURT44319 you are certainly able to express your own opinion. In the end I also do not fully agree with you. If you listen to what I am saying it really is about the site being a better place by everyone sharing in the decision making process. The most powerful people in the world are those that share the power and are inclusive in designing and implementing guidelines. Ultimately "owners" are only as successful as their team members. This site will only be as successful as its members. Sharing, understanding, respect and learing to accept each other as valued members of the team will make this a better community. Thank you all.[/quote] While the manner in which some seek to express themselves may be a bit acidic, it is hard to argue with the underlying premis. You and I do not disagree that it may be advisable to consider the input of others, we apparently do disagree that it's mandatory. We disagree that " The most powerful people in the world are those that share the power and are inclusive in designing and implementing guidelines." but we are in full agreement that "Ultimately "owners" are only as successful as their team members." On my sites, I AM the supreme dictator, if by no other virtue than the simple fact that it's a short walk to the power plug, and that I, with no consultation from anybody, can simply pull the plug, and the site(s) is/are gone ! That it may be ill advised is another matter entirely. The most successful companies, governments, web sites, anything really, are not democracies. They are ( as history repeatedly teaches ) benevolent dictatorships. Decades of experience teaches me ( and you will not change my mind ) that input from all relevant parties is of great value, and probably should be considered, but that ultimately the decisions, and the responsibility for those decisions, rests solely and entirely with the owner, and no one else. To bring this back on-topic, the owner of this site has realized that the chat room needed some degree of moderation. His decision was to put in place designated moderators. Obviously, that decision was made with months of input from the membership clamoring for moderation. The affects of moderator decisions are immediate, as designed. It may be a good idea for TT1 to review the actions of the designated moderators, and decide to keep, kick, or replace certain mods, but the decision to do so is his alone, not ours collectively, or individually. Perhaps an alternative would be a clarification of certain rules over which there seems to be some discrepancy. He will do so either by action, or inaction. Either way, that decision will be his and his alone, based on whatever input he decides to consider, rightly or wrongly. He DOES remain owner, and supreme dictator, regardless of opinion to the contrary, OR opinion in favor. That's just a simple fact. Additionally, it remains his, and his alone, *responsibility* to approve, disapprove, clarify, or review the actions and circumstances leading to such actions of the mods, members, and either support them, or take whatever other action he deems appropriate, including none, if he so desires. Meantime, ours is but to recognize and comply with the rules as they stand, or to advize TT1 through the established means, of a better idea. It WILL shake out, and the lines will become clear, regardless of anything we do, or don't do. It WILL be inferred from the shake out, the direction this site will take, and what it will be in the future.
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Thomas
Oct 3, 2010
[quote] CURT44319 you are certainly able to express your own opinion. In the end I also do not fully agree with you. If you listen to what I am saying it really is about the site being a better place by everyone sharing in the decision making process. The most powerful people in the world are those that share the power and are inclusive in designing and implementing guidelines. Ultimately "owners" are only as successful as their team members. This site will only be as successful as its members. Sharing, understanding, respect and learing to accept each other as valued members of the team will make this a better community. Thank you all.[/quote] Ausrat, I agree with you on this. The site owner does have the ultimate say on things on how things are done here. Ihave seen that he does pay attetion to what the members here say. That is one of the things I like about being here. He has posted forum threads informing us of projected changes and has asked for our opinions. I see by your poste and from seeing you in chat that you have same values as a lot of us here. I came into chat as someone was giving Jen, the female half of Snugglebunny, problems and you were helping her in a non confrontational way. I haved been friends with both of them for over two years and they are great people. Thomas
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Member
Oct 3, 2010
While in the chat room over a couple of evenings (local time), there were a number of dicussions and remarks that were homophobic and intolerant of a non-christian religion. When I flagged this the mods, I felt I was brushed off.
This really bothers me. It is not a space that I feel comfortable in participating. I, quite frankly, have put up with enough discrimination and bigotry in my life, and don't have to pay to witness to more.
Mods - step up and warn/boot of those who persist in using homophobic and prejudicial terms, regardless of cultural context, to ensure a more safe and inclusive environment.
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Thomas
Oct 4, 2010
[quote]I am glad you think of my issue as "pitiful." This is an international forum, not Australian. If it were Australian, maybe you should simply refund non-Aussies subscriptions. Apparently, discussions are in English and one one think there were a common platform for dialogue. It is apparent to me that you don't understand my concern. Language can be used for both inclusive and exclusive purposes. Simply putting down someone's concerns as "pitiful" is demeaning and demonstrates willful ignorance. As a gay, Muslim person of colour who strives hard to create an inclusive work place for my employees and contribute to my community to address issues of intolerance, I now realize that "within certain cultures" my concerns will always be entertained from me as a second class citizen. At least I know where the mods stand on perpetuating double standards and disrespect for cultural diversity. And from nudists, nonetheless.[/quote] This is indeed an international site. As such we should be understanding of all. English is the most common language but I have seen many languages in the chat room when some converse in their native tongue. I have learned a lot of the slang of other English speaking countries and have taught others some of our slang. I feel it is being small minded to be offended by something that is not meant to be offensive, is a slang word with a totally different meaning in that person's country.
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ME
MemberOriginal Poster
Oct 4, 2010
Well said, Txag.
To all our Aussie friends an FYI - if an American says they're pissed...it means we are angry NOT drunk! LMAO!!
Jen
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Member
Oct 4, 2010
Thanks for this. Regardless where you are from, there is a need to level the field of comfort. And moderation is supposed to deliver on that promise.
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JackNeilson
Oct 4, 2010
[quote]This is an international forum[/quote] Bullerman, Slang and/or colloquialisms are common in most languages including English and due to the wide diaspora of English speakers varies very widely. You are Canadian as am I. You live in Alberta; I live in Ontario. Some differences in slang usage between us is probable. Newfoundlanders have a very rich usage of slang and colloquialisms, some of which you would not understand or would misinterpret yet we are all from the same country. Now consider the number of countries who speak English and the wide variance of slang which is inevitable. An American would say soda when referring to a soft drink whereas a Canadian would likely say pop, which has a very different meaning in American slang. I am reminded of an occasion when my British father in law saw a man putting a large roast on the BBQ and blurted out ... "Look at the size of that man's joint" or when he would say "I'll knock you up in the morning", both of which have very different meanings to a Canadian. Slang is an integral part of speech and can vary by country, province/state, demographics of age, employment, ethnic origin or other factors. You use the term "gay" which is understood widely as referring to "homosexual" but there are still places where the word is meant to denote only "happy" or "carefree". Even "person of colour" would not be understood in many places. I see no disrespect for cultural diversity in a person using what to them is a commonplace and everyday way to refer to a cigarette which is incidentally understood in many places besides Australia. If you had a problem with the term you could have simply asked for clarification which would probably have been politely given. In my opinion there was no intent to cause insult or offence to anyone.
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Curt, or Cowboy
Oct 4, 2010
TXAG_1975 wrote.... [quote]I have learned a lot of the slang of other English speaking countries and have taught others some of our slang. [/quote] Yes, but did they realize that you're in the Republic of Texas, and not necessarily representative of the USA !?
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catbird
Oct 4, 2010
The differing meaning of words in other nations is interesting.
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Gerry-4
Oct 4, 2010
Reminds of French Canadian friend who went to England to work on his English. Later he found himself working at a U.S. school. He once caught some kids smoking on school grounds. He made them clean up the area saying, "I don't want to see any fags here!"

He had to explain his comment to the principal...

As for whateversexuality, I'll always remember this deleted scene from a less-than-high quality movie:

"Here's my editorial for tomorrow: If you sleep with someone, you sleep with everyone that person ever slept with. Does that make you gay? YES! Yes, it does!"
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Thomas
Oct 4, 2010
[quote]TXAG_1975 wrote.... [quote]I have learned a lot of the slang of other English speaking countries and have taught others some of our slang. [/quote] Yes, but did they realize that you're in the Republic of Texas, and not necessarily representative of the USA !?[/quote] LOL Curt, most of them do. Thomas
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ME
MemberOriginal Poster
Oct 4, 2010
Instead of bickering about our differences on an international level, look at this as a wonderful opportunity to become more cultured in this 'global world'. Let's not start WWIII over words, embrace them, learn, understand. What - a - gift!

Steve
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ME
Member
Oct 4, 2010
[quote]Well said, Txag. To all our Aussie friends an FYI - if an American says they're pissed...it means we are angry NOT drunk! LMAO!! Jen[/quote] YOU CAN BE BOTH! HICK-CUP
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ME
Member
Oct 4, 2010
[quote]TXAG_1975 wrote.... [quote]I have learned a lot of the slang of other English speaking countries and have taught others some of our slang. [/quote] Yes, but did they realize that you're in the Republic of Texas, and not necessarily representative of the USA !?[/quote] Don't Mess with Texas"
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westheathen
Oct 5, 2010
[quote][quote]Well said, Txag. To all our Aussie friends an FYI - if an American says they're pissed...it means we are angry NOT drunk! LMAO!! Jen[/quote] YOU CAN BE BOTH! HICK-CUP[/quote] The same applies in Britain, although the anger is normally denoted by p.... off.
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Andrew
Oct 20, 2010
Bumping this to the top of the list again.
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Oregongirl
Oct 20, 2010
I am happy to have come back to be a part of TN again.
The moderators have once again made the chatroom a more enjoyable place to be! You guys are doing a spot on job so don't let any of those negative comments get you down!
=) Keep up the good work!
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ME
Member
Oct 23, 2010
You hit the nail on the head cesssez, I might also add that now with the mods
covering the chat rooms that TT has no problem cruzing the forums and easily
handling picture control with time to spare. NO NEED FOR FORUM MODS, as we see
all is working well with TT at the helm, and seeing how well that it works DON'T
FIX IT. I even heard Brian say over at NCH he alone has no problem covering pic
posts on his site as well, no need for any outside help. Self policing by
members is doing best.
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Cheri Donna Dawson
Oct 24, 2010
I ventured into chat late yesterday afternoon/early evening (for me) and ended up PMing with an old friend and never really got the chance to just chat. LOL There was lots of interaction among those there, that's really great.
I think having Moderators have definitely helped.
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ME
MemberOriginal Poster
Dec 8, 2010
this thread needs a bump for the new members here.
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