"MUST BE CERTIFIED!" "NO" Absolutely "NO" Private, Or "This user only allows picture/video access to friends," Blank or Empty profiles. Must have at least 2 full frontal nude photos w/ face Must have profile pic. For true nudists who want to meet or share with other true nudists!
I dont have a problem with most of it but because of personal and employment reasons I will not post two full frontal pictures with no restrictions. I exchanged some messages with miev123 quite a while back regarding this and while acknowledging he can establish the rules the way he wants I just pointed out reasons this seems to me to be requiring too much. I didnt get anywhere and now miev123 has apparently blocked me and more recently I can no longer even read the groups that have discussions Im interested in reading. I could be reading too much into this but I feel like miev123 is trying to force people to post pictures that they cant because of personal and or employment issues so that he can collect them. Why else would the requirement be as it is?
Thoughts?
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Tom DJun 22, 2021[quote]I know the moderator of a group can set their own rules and if I dont like them I dont have to join and could even create my own group. But there are some interesting groups Ive enjoyed reading and at times would like to add my two cents to (if its even worth that much :D ). Anyway the user miev123 is moderator on a number of groups like Everyday Naked Living and on those groups the rules are: "MUST BE CERTIFIED!" "NO" Absolutely "NO" Private, Or "This user only allows picture/video access to friends," Blank or Empty profiles. Must have at least 2 full frontal nude photos w/ face Must have profile pic. For true nudists who want to meet or share with other true nudists! I dont have a problem with most of it but because of personal and employment reasons I will not post two full frontal pictures with no restrictions. I exchanged some messages with miev123 quite a while back regarding this and while acknowledging he can establish the rules the way he wants I just pointed out reasons this seems to me to be requiring too much. I didnt get anywhere and now miev123 has apparently blocked me and more recently I can no longer even read the groups that have discussions Im interested in reading. I could be reading too much into this but I feel like miev123 is trying to force people to post pictures that they cant because of personal and or employment issues so that he can collect them. Why else would the requirement be as it is? Thoughts?[/quote] I agree with you. I will not post full frontal nude photos because I do not trust the security of anything on the internet, so there are several interesting groups that I cannot access.ReactReply - M
MJun 22, 2021Have the same problem with said moderators and another (Avardo) has created over 20 more that already exist, believing it's only for the photoes. Where do they get the time to moderate unless it's for non-nudist reasons.
ReactReply - MEMemberJun 22, 2021
If this was a genuine nudist site with only real and respectful people, then that would be one thing. Sadly this site is anything but and it seems to get worse by the day. There are far too many creeps who would do anything to make money including stealing your photos and selling them all over the internet to anyone with a penny in their pocket. They could care less if you lose your job, career, spouse, etc. You are being smart to resist being forced to post full frontal nudes in order to join a group. If you do not feel comfortable with the rules of any group, then you just do not become a part of that group (which you have done). Congratulations!
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GeoffJun 22, 2021Ive recently found that on joining groups this Miev guy is the moderator and then writes some copy and paste quite rude messages. Although the groups were of my interest, any group that would have someone such as h as moderator probably isnt one Id enjoy in the long run. Im just moving on and he can have his little empire. I DO however understand your frustration and its good to complain sometimes. I have better things to do than del with online empire builders maki g demands of me.
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TJJul 3, 2021This is why I wish all wise and responsible adults would show some spine and solidarity and get proactive about this issue with potentially "compromising" photos getting leaked. Everyone should take selfies naked and slung over a toilet (preferably an obviously public one) with one or more bottles of booze nearby, as well as maybe a straw and a little baggie or something for added punch.
Flood the internet with them. Once nearly everyone has one, they'll cease to be an issue.
Stand up and take action! Do it for the children! Leave them a world where this stuff isn't a fear anymore!
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Stone AndyJul 3, 2021It's ironic when a group monitor demands pictures to prove your authenticity while the site mod removes at the same time as your mailbox is getting flooded with spam from fake people advertising sex sites.
I've kind of given up on all that along with idea of "true nudism." "True" + any "ism" = rigid dogma.
This site is dying.
Add your thoughts to a good thread, give your contact info to a select few to continue communicating offsite and good luck.ReactReply - FUFullSunOriginal PosterJul 4, 2021[quote]That miev123 bloke is a clown. I have full frontal pics that I only allow friends to see because of work etc. For some reason he has blocked me so I can't plead my case. So I just keep trying to join his groups so he keeps having to sending me those stupid messages. Petty for petty I say. Complete clown.[/quote] I agree. If you read his rules, which I copied into my original post, or ask him (which I did before he blocked me) the pictures cannot be private. He doesnt care.ReactReply
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DGDec 13, 2021I had the same issue with him despite being a certified long term member of good standing. Based on his other perverted posts I believe he's actually catfishing to collect other users pictures - he blocks before he can be reported for it.
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Strandjunge59Dec 13, 2021[quote]That miev123 did the same to me, Blocked me from his profile and his groups.[/quote]
So I am not the only one. He sent me a Welcome-message to his group and then blocked me.
My experience with private profiles is that they only want to cover up that they have an empty profile without any information or media.[/quote]ReactReply - PH
PhilipDec 13, 2021I've had no problems with Miev, on the other hand, I have found myself blocked by people I don't even remember contacting. Possibly some people just enjoy blocking people.
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Wish I could. Hope this site connects you with a lot of real Nudists. I havent had much luck & may be jumping ship to flickr soon where theres much more FRIENDLY real NUDIST ( the closeted-nudist trolls are the least of the problems & not as annoying as some of the dimwits on this site ) engagement & much less inexplicable cowardly illogical censorship & manipulation of users content by management; users are fully in charge of their account on flickr unlike tn.
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All of the above &AND& the new SECURITY for 18+ which is irrelevant because we ALL already were required to upload FACE shots & LEGALLY attest to our ages to get an account in the FIRST place &AND& with varying AGE OF MATURITY laws in the US & internationally, 18+ is a ridiculous bar for security or engagement; the age of consent/maturity in WASHINGTON DC/USA CAPITOL CITY is .... wait for it... 16 ... TWO (2) YEARS younger than what this site permits; in Spain, the age of maturity is ... 14 .... & that is based on RELIGIOUS grounds because THE VIRGIN MARY, MOTHER OF GOD/Christ, was widely accepted to be be 14 when she gave birth to GOD. ... AMAZING how RELIGIOUS STANDARDS are more liberal than the corporate standards of the cowardly anonymous censors & money makers who claim they're tryin to PROTECT US(?) by making this site less useful. ... I may be jumping ship to flickr soon where theres much more FRIENDLY real NUDIST ( the closeted-nudist trolls are the least of the problems & not as annoying as some of the dimwits on this site ) engagement & much less inexplicable cowardly illogical censorship & manipulation of users content by management; users are fully in charge of their account on flickr unlike tn.
ReactReply - MEMemberDec 13, 2021
EXODUS2021/EXODUS2022 has begun. .... I may be jumping ship to flickr soon where theres much more FRIENDLY real NUDIST ( the closeted-nudist trolls are the least of the problems & not as annoying as some of the dimwits on this site ) engagement & much less inexplicable cowardly illogical censorship & manipulation of users content by management; users are fully in charge of their account on flickr unlike tn. Hope others will follow suite & maybe then management will get a clue.
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StuDec 14, 2021I feel this site along with others I'm a member of has changed over the years. Okay, yes, there will be changes but not always for the better.
I've found here that there are many American women using it for a dating site and nothing about nudism at all. I think it should be stipulated as it's a nudust site you have naked pictures of yourself on here. After all, if you are a true nudist you've nothing to hide if you get my drift.
Be interesting to hear what others here think.
Happy naked feastive season coming up and a better 2022 (fingers crossed).ReactReply - MI
MikeDec 14, 2021I find that many block, and I have no recollection of contacting them??
ReactReply - SAStone AndyDec 14, 2021
Why waste any time with dysfunctional groups or people? Perhaps this site has more of its share of human oddities. Nudism certainly isn't about being conventional. However, it draws some amazing and authentic people who have made it worthwhile for me. The rest is just background noise. Ignore or block the strange birds, just don't try figuring them out.
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JohnDec 14, 2021I'm with you there, Andy.
I can see reasons why people don't want to post nude pictures of themselves on the site, and don't feel that it should be a requirement except for authenticating a certification process for the mods. If we lived in a culture where there are no repercussions at all for having nude pictures on the internet, then I might feel differently. But if a teacher loses his or her job, or a Scoutmaster finds himself barred from the Scouts, or a minister has to face her congregation and explain why there are pictures of her on some porn site she'd never heard of, then it's just not worth it for them.
If we made it a requirement that people post nude pictures of themselves here, we'd lose those people. And I'd hate to do that.
ReactReply - SAStone AndyDec 14, 2021[quote]If we made it a requirement that people post nude pictures of themselves here, we'd lose those people. And I'd hate to do that.[/quote] Given that this site software comes from 2006, the mods have no consistent standards in publishing downloaded pix, spam/fake accounts are considered member volume bragging rights and that I've been blackmailed that my TN posts will be downloaded to my Facebook account, my trust in posting pix online is very low. In any case I consider a naked mind more important than being a shower or a grower. As far as the groups, that's where the most insightful discussions happen, which I haven't seen in the chat room. I see group postings decreasing, so I'm surprised anyone would restrict them.ReactReply
- MEMemberDec 14, 2021[quote]........... In any case I consider a naked mind more important than being a shower or a grower.......As far as the groups, that's where the most insightful discussions happen, which I haven't seen in the chat room. I see group postings decreasing, so I'm surprised anyone would restrict them.[/quote]
There is a huge shortage of 'naked minds' on this site. It would be wonderful if we could have somewhat intelligent conversations in the chat room. Anything beyond the usual 'naked hugs, cyber kisses, and how is the weather.' Unfortunately no matter what a person posts in the chat room, someone will always object and complain and so real chat is long dead in the chat room. Why some of the mods will even ban anyone who dares to start and intelligent conversation about anything and so many have just plain given up on the chat room.
The forum is a different matter but the number of active posters in the forum has also decreased. At this rate, there really will not be much of a TN site left. So many here also join one group after another and then never say one word or contribute anything to those groups. What really is the point of doing this?ReactReply - ST
SteveDec 15, 2021I've also run into Miev by virtue of replying to the posts of others that have appeared in my timeline without regard as to where they were located. The TN software has allowed me to do that on the past. The result is usually a 'Get off my lawn!' response by Miev. By then I've forgotten where it was that I posted!
I've tried to be as open as possible on this site with the exception of full photos. I hope my profile reflects that. If full frontal is the bar I face, I guess I'll just have to accept that.
Others can, of course, choose to patronise the groups that have more open policies and join me there! Very few topics here are covered by just one group.
ReactReply - FUFullSunOriginal PosterDec 15, 2021
I also question the motives of miev because he has all these groups with restrictions requiring multiple full frontal pictures. But even when I could see posts in those groups etc., I have yet to see a post from miev. I get the feeling they are creating groups with topics more likely to get interest and requiring the pictures so he can do picture collecting. I cant in any way say this is fact but from what Ive seen it what I would guess.
ReactReply - SAStone AndyDec 15, 2021
If you think there's a shortage of naked minds on this site, try finding them in your local neighborhood. Perhaps people post less on threads because they don't want the trolls to get them down.
On some threads I feel the naked minds have banded together against the trolls. Key is for one or two to calmly respond against someone's unreasonable objections to the poster, to question their motives and to defend how they understand the positive intent of the poster.
I've read that if you've ever seen a ghost, you should tell them to go to the light. I find that works for trolls as well who are usually closeted and looking for attention.
There's a line from Ferris Bueler's Day off about his friend Carmen being so uptight he could put a piece of coal up his ass and pull out a diamond.
Is this the best response? Go to the light, Miev.ReactReply - STSteveDec 16, 2021
If those groups were just restricted to certified users (even when profiles are light with pictures but otherwise indicate active participation), that would seem reasonable as certification is a bar that takes reasonable effort to overcome convincingly. Asking for the pictures also and aggressively punting those who don't comply is where the motives come into question.
ReactReply - STSteveJan 9, 2022
A further thought/observation. Avardo has, in one case I've seen, joined an existing group, which now has his preferred restrictions. With those restrictions now in place, it appears he's planning to close it due to lack of members. I know one way to allow the membership to grow... :-)
The group in question is Plus30 Nudists.
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