Recently, in another thread, the issue of swinging was brought up, specifically the position of swinging as being off-limits on the site. I became curious and looked into the Terms and Conditions of Truenudists (section 8), and I can find no reference to swinging as being outside the conditions of the site. Discussions of swinging per se, are therefore within site guidelines, provided that discussion doesn't become sexually explicit. While swinging is an activity, specifically for sexual purposes, and therefore one that has become a major issue for nudism, this site has not taken the position to ban its discussion, or its inclusion into profiles, or open admission to participation. Whether this is a good thing or a bad thing is up for discussion, as is Truenudists stand on the issue.
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Paul VoglerJun 2, 2011[quote][quote]I think a lot of people are missing what I am getting at. This thread was started because of another thread where someone got really upset with a person in the chat, discussing Swinging with another swinger, apparently. This led me to question whether or not we had the right to challenge swingers. Cleary, we have seen from NudeInMa, that we do. That is the first point. . The second question that I have, even if someone is discussing swinging, but it is not sexually explicit, should that be permissable? It would be nice to get a consensus on this, but I don't see the liklihood of that happening. . Ultimately though, I hope we can deal with this issue in a civil manor. If the person becomes difficult, then flag and leave it to administration. Thanks for your participation.[/quote] seriously, this is not the place for swingers, this is the place for honest hardworking people that don't wear clothes to come together. Don't fuck it up with stupid "weenie waggers"[/quote] And I'm not sure it's a place for bigots who stereotype groups of people based on limited knowledge simply because they don't agree with them. I am not a swinger, and don't necessarily agree with the lifestyle, but TO EACH HIS OWN. The terms "Nudist" and "Swinger" are in no way MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE.ReactReply - GE
Gerry-4Jun 3, 2011Here's my take on the subject, for what it's worth. While there are people opposed to social nudity for other reasons, most who oppose it do so because they believe it to be an inherently sexual activity. For this reason, the owner of this website has asked that we all refrain from posting anything that could seem like sex and nudity are being deliberately confused.
That said, the policy so far (as far I can tell) has been to ban or otherwise act against people who try to create sexually oriented groups, post photos that are clearly meant to arouse or write in a way that could be considered reminiscent of sexual activity or experience. So far, no action has ever been taken against people who simply declare their orientation, preference or lifestyle. It may be a thin line, but I think that line is worth keeping.
Not that long ago, I saw a profile where a member said something along the lines of "My partner and I are swingers, but we recognise the difference between nudism and swinging, and act accordingly." I find this acceptable. What I wouldn't find acceptable is something along the lines of, "We're always looking for new friends to swing with." That would clearly be a violation.
Granted, if a declared swinger says, "We're always looking for new friends," and left it at that, we could assume there was an implicit invitation. But that might be assuming a little too much. Perhaps s/he already has all the swing friends s/he needs and would like to add a few platonic friends, especially a doctor for medical advice, a lawyer for legal issues, an accountant for tax time, a babysitter for the kids, a speechwriter for the next election, etc.
As a website, we don't (or shouldn't) promote swinging. But that doesn't mean we can't have swingers. My two cents' worth...ReactReply - TH
ThomasJun 3, 2011[quote]Here's my take on the subject, for what it's worth. While there are people opposed to social nudity for other reasons, most who oppose it do so because they believe it to be an inherently sexual activity. For this reason, the owner of this website has asked that we all refrain from posting anything that could seem like sex and nudity are being deliberately confused. That said, the policy so far (as far I can tell) has been to ban or otherwise act against people who try to create sexually oriented groups, post photos that are clearly meant to arouse or write in a way that could be considered reminiscent of sexual activity or experience. So far, no action has ever been taken against people who simply declare their orientation, preference or lifestyle. It may be a thin line, but I think that line is worth keeping. Not that long ago, I saw a profile where a member said something along the lines of "My partner and I are swingers, but we recognise the difference between nudism and swinging, and act accordingly." I find this acceptable. What I wouldn't find acceptable is something along the lines of, "We're always looking for new friends to swing with." That would clearly be a violation. Granted, if a declared swinger says, "We're always looking for new friends," and left it at that, we could assume there was an implicit invitation. But that might be assuming a little too much. Perhaps s/he already has all the swing friends s/he needs and would like to add a few platonic friends, especially a doctor for medical advice, a lawyer for legal issues, an accountant for tax time, a babysitter for the kids, a speechwriter for the next election, etc. As a website, we don't (or shouldn't) promote swinging. But that doesn't mean we can't have swingers. My two cents' worth...[/quote] Well said GerryReactReply