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Norman Lane

Sex and Sexuality

Habitual nudity and physical attraction.

Posted May 14, 2015

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Norman Lane
Norman LaneOriginal Poster
May 14, 2015
Physical attraction to the opposite sex must be an innate feature, else we wouldn't be here.

I'm interested in what happens when the nudity taboo is taken away. Some studies have hinted at "built-in" responses. I've had people claim that sexual attraction becomes a thing of the mind and there is no physical component. I find that unlikely and of course, the possibility of human pheromones certainly complicates the issue.  Perhaps even auditory stimulation plays a role.

Assuming nudists have sex, some of the people posting cast doubt, how do you become attracted? What prompts you to approach someone?

I enjoy public nudity, especially outdoors, but I don't do it enough to wear off the turn-on. Not at all sure I'd want to really.

So, what is a "natural" response?
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    StevieLorna
    StevieLorna
    May 21, 2015

    Clothes can be far more sexually provocative than the naked body, this is why the fashion industry is so big.

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    sargam
    sargam
    Sep 19, 2024
    [quote]Clothes can be far more sexually provocative than the naked body, this is why the fashion industry is so big.[/quote] its very true
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    John
    John
    Sep 19, 2024

    I think that our sexual response to nudity is Pavlovian. Pavlov, you remember taught dogs to salivate whenever they heard a ringing bell, because the dogs linked the sound to their being fed. After a while, the dogs would salivate to the sound even without being fed.

    In much the same way, we are conditioned to equate nudity with sex. The only time we see nudity in the media is in a sexual situation, and the only time the textile world sees another nude body of a potential sexual partner is as a prelude to the act. So we come to associate nudity with sexual arousal.

    But when you're in the constant presence of nude people, that conditioning wears off, just as a dog's reflex to the sound of a bell wears off after the dog realizes that it isn't going to be fed. The sexual reflex is diminished. That doesn't mean that we won't get aroused when there is a real prospect of sex, just as the de-conditioned dog will still salivate in the presence of food. Our sex drive isn't muted entirely, just put in the context of anticipated sex.

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    Rex
    Rex
    Nov 5, 2024

    Im a life long nudist and my partner the last 10years, We are both attracted to physical atributes, So no the mind does not take over

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    Hawk
    Hawk
    Nov 5, 2024
    [quote]For long time/life-long nudists, the desire for sex is not kindled at the sight of naked bodies. They connect mentally first and then physical desires may or may not take over.[/quote] Ditto
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    EarlD
    EarlD
    Nov 6, 2024

    IMO It is Important to remember that much of physical arousal and attraction is first formed in the mind. There is much more than physical and visual nakedness.

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    George
    George
    Nov 15, 2024

    As a long time nudist/naturist, I have come to realize that there are many levels of attraction that come into play, especially in relationships between other nudists/naturists. Simply finding someone physically attractive does not necessarily mean that I want to engage in sexual activities with them. I often meet people who I have common interests with and that is another level of attraction. Once a real relationship has developed, I sometimes develop a spiritual or emotional connection with them as well. For me, a strong emotional connection is required before I will even bring up the topic of a mutual sexual relationship and only if both of us are free of any other commitments. It's a moral standard that I find comfortable for myself.

    This does not necessarily mean that I'm a prude or anything. I have been approached by others, singles and yes even couples, who express an interest in sharing sexual activities with me. I try not to judge those who live that kind of life. I merely thank them for the wonderful compliment, but excuse myself as requiring a prior emotional connection first. I have yet to encounter a disrespectful response.

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    Joby
    Joby
    Nov 20, 2024

    Who are we kidding, folks. ;)
    When I first started practicing nudity I was always self-conscious about thoughts that might cross my mind if I saw someone with a nice physique. Or whatever.
    As if that went against the bylaws of what a true nudist is. 'You can't have those thoughts!'

    But let's face it, we all do.

    When a man sees a woman walking down the street with her breasts hanging out, and her mini skirt hiked up her thighs. you don't think she wants guys looking at her, or that guys AREN'T looking at her.

    So what makes you think they aren't going to be checking out a woman who his naked.

    And the female response to a naked man will be the same.

    I popped over to the chat board a few minutes ago and there was this pretty boy, in his 20s, who posted his pic. Perfect body. Great penis.
    And a gazillion "like" hearts popped up next to his picture within seconds.

    The 70 year old man above him, nothing.

    Again, when they saw the young hottie, sex was on their mind. Let's not fool ourselves. Sex and nudity go hand in hand. No matter how much we might pretend to distinguish between them. Even on a board that celebrates nudism.

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    Bill
    Bill
    Nov 20, 2024

    Balderdash. Sex and nudity can surely go together - in fact nudists should fuck and make babies if we're going to keep nudism healthy and going in a forward direction in this wacky world - but both subjects are not always on every bare person's mind simultaneously. That connection is always dependent on the situation. If one cannot separate the two when there is no specific sexual component involved, it might be time for a professional's input.

    And for goodness sake, to use a trip into TN chat and attempt to convey that semen-drenched area as a reasonable, real world example, it does not strengthen the 'nude/sex are inseparable' premise at all. Certain people will never, ever be convinced that there is nothing inherently sexual about being bare in social situations. Offered by me, as part of a couple living full time without clothes, when there is constant exposure to everyone naked, as opposed to visiting a beach or resort on occasion, there is an overall comfort with the subject of no clothes needed. A day at the beach does not teach the lesson effectively. Try a week at a family nudist retreat and become one with the bare. Normalize it, learn to live it, get educated as to why it is perfectly beautiful and wholesome to share this thing with the whole planet, and without the permanent undercurrent of intrigue itinerant nudists oftentimes find themselves getting trapped in. It ain't so!

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    nudony
    nudony
    Nov 27, 2024
    [quote]Balderdash. [/quote] For the most part, I agree with that statement. :) My 5 cents on this topic. On the one hand, I do not subscribe to the idea (sometimes proclaimed by nudist ideologues) that "everyone looks the same" or "no pays attention." Maybe if you're away from the crowd looking in; then yes, naked bodies might seem to just "blend in" together. And I think most resort nudists would actually find it a little "unsettling" if other nudists in fact did not pay any attention to them. I've been a social nudist for 25ish years, and it would just be disingenuous for to me to say that I've never found anyone physically attractive because "everyone looks the same" or "I didn't pay attention." Interpersonal interactions in close settings/proximity required my full attention, and the diversity in physical attributes is hard to ignore when people are naked right in front of me. And yes I've had a fair share of "oh wow" moments. Now for my "other hand." Let's take for example a nudist friend of my wife and I's, who is considered - in accord with our mutual friends and acquaintances - attractive. She also happens to be fairly uninhibited and confident in her nakedness - which probably adds to her attractiveness. But here's the thing: her uninhibitedness is clearly an expression of body-positivity (or lack of body-shame); as opposed to an expression of sexuality. What's the difference? Whether you're looking at an OF model online, an exotic dancer sliding naked down a pole; or if you're lucky, your wife in the bedroom being "sexy" to punctuate a romantic evening - the BIG difference is intent and context. The point here is that when you come to understand social nakedness as an expression of body-positivity (or lack of body-shame), and unless you're a complete animal; by acclimatization or desensitization or habituation or whatever you want to call it, you start seeing it very differently from an expression of sexuality. The friend I mentioned above: I never thought of her in a sexual sense, no matter how attractive I found her/how exposed she was in front of me. But, that can take many trips to the resort/club, and a lot of socialization with other nudists. Online "nudism" just ain't going to do it. Anyway I hope my post makes sense it was all stream of consciousness.
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    naturist_rp6590_84899
    naturist_rp6590_84899
    Dec 14, 2024

    Having been into Naturism since 1960, when quite young, the problem of an unwanted and unexpected erection was the worst thing that could possibly happen. The blind panic and flying leap into the swimming pool was for others a source of benign humour. I once witnessed such in a textile swimming pool! The poor fellow, thirty-ish, just dived in. As a spectator, my bemused interest barely lasted a moment.
    The rest of the time nudity is quite boring and was not, for me, the answer to life's existential problem. For this reason I left this otherwise quite wonderful family friendly comunity for Buddhism.
    Having returned to the fold some fifty years later, the naked unadorned body remains inherently boring.
    The joy of Naturist fellowship arises from the eye contact that completely forgets the whole issue within the sunshine and fresh air of the great outdoors that is a well run SUN club.

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    LakePowellAuNaturel
    LakePowellAuNaturel
    Dec 20, 2024

    If we're honest we have to admit that sexual attraction is involuntary. Nudity just shows "the whole package" and there's nothing wrong with admiring a nice physique. Clothed or unclothed, the problem occurs when unwanted sexual advances are happening. A male friend of mine won't go to nude beaches because he gets an erection at the site of a nude female. I have had that happen as well and spent a fair amount of time sunning my backside. Anymore, I rarely visit public nude beaches and prefer to find isolated places where no one is around to gawk at me. I find the sun itself to be sexually stimulating and don't have to be embarrassed or ashamed of a natural response when no one's around to see it.

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    EarlD
    EarlD
    Dec 20, 2024
    In circumstances like this it is usually best to speak for yourself. I have been a part of the nudist community for over a decade and I dont have involuntary sexual. I see attractive women all the time and have had relationships with some but never have involuntary sexual attraction. I practice control of my gaze and behave like an adult should whether I have clothes on our not. [quote]If we're honest we have to admit that sexual attraction is involuntary.[/quote]
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    StevieLorna
    StevieLorna
    Dec 20, 2024
    [quote]If we're honest we have to admit that sexual attraction is involuntary. Nudity just shows "the whole package" and there's nothing wrong with admiring a nice physique. Clothed or unclothed, the problem occurs when unwanted sexual advances are happening. A male friend of mine won't go to nude beaches because he gets an erection at the site of a nude female. I have had that happen as well and spent a fair amount of time sunning my backside. Anymore, I rarely visit public nude beaches and prefer to find isolated places where no one is around to gawk at me. I find the sun itself to be sexually stimulating and don't have to be embarrassed or ashamed of a natural response when no one's around to see it.[/quote] Do you have to lay on your belly in the cinema when an attractive actress is on screen? That must be so debilitating. Im joking of course and if just being nude in the sun stimulates you sexually youve made the correct choice of only doing it solo. Too many guys here think its their right to impose themselves in a crowd. Im attracted to a lot of women, (yes even when they have clothes on) but I never need to turn my back on any of them because Im a grown man with self control.
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