Self defence

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  Thomas

  Feb 14, 2011

  Good for her.  I have heard of it happening once at beach I go to but thankfully it is rare.

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  baredazzaOriginal Poster

  Feb 14, 2011

  i'm hoping it's a rare thing too but with todays more voilent society it seems even the once safe domain of nude beaches is becoming a place for thugs and trouble makers

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  Curt, or Cowboy

  Feb 14, 2011

  As a black belt, I'd assume she is quite capable of disabling an attacker without putting him in the hospital ?
  Some just won't learn, I suppose, but her "gentle hint" should convince him.

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  JackNeilson

  Feb 14, 2011

  Actually, if it is necessary to use force against a larger, stronger opponent which is likely the case here it is wise to use maximum aggression to ensure that the opponent is not going to get up and attack you. Too many people, both men and women, highly qualified in a martial art have learned this the hard way. Kudos to the lady involved.

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  nude_chilly_willy

  Feb 14, 2011

  if a lady has to protecr herself from a pervert then I say good for her
  it is a shame this happens but the world is changing

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  Thomas

  Feb 14, 2011

  [quote]Actually, if it is necessary to use force against a larger, stronger opponent which is likely the case here it is wise to use maximum aggression to ensure that the opponent is not going to get up and attack you. Too many people, both men and women, highly qualified in a martial art have learned this the hard way. Kudos to the lady involved.[/quote]  Very good point.  My training stressed containment and control.  It is not as effective when opponent is still under influence of drugs.

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  westheathen

  Feb 14, 2011

  Well done that lady!!!!

  The suggestion that people learn self-defence is a good one, but notpractical for everyone.  If folks have for instance an artificial hip they could quite eailly dislocate it while doing the manouvers involved.

  I went on a personal safety course from work sometime ago, and the instructor mentioned that a friend of hers had been mugged - a big 6 footer with a self defence belt of some sort.  He never used his skills though just froze at exactly the wrong time.

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  Roosterock

  Feb 14, 2011

  I carry either a 380, 9mm or 45 depending on what I have on or with me.

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  Oregongirl

  Feb 14, 2011

  since resorts are private property the owners always make a "no weapon" rule.  A concealed carry permit would do you no good there.

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  Cheri Donna Dawson

  Feb 15, 2011

  I've not ever been attacked at a  nudist venue.  I have been in the textile world.   From this, I would have to think that it's much safer generally in a nudist enviroment.

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  DesertRat

  Feb 15, 2011

  Good fo her! When physical force becomes necessary, there should be no half measures. You must make certain that the attacker is completely rendered harmless.

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  westheathen

  Feb 15, 2011

  [quote]Good fo her! When physical force becomes necessary, there should be no half measures. You must make certain that the attacker is completely rendered harmless.[/quote]  Surely the breaking of all limbs and castration is a little OTT?  That is the only sure way.

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• ME

  Member

  Feb 15, 2011

  [quote][quote]Good fo her! When physical force becomes necessary, there should be no half measures. You must make certain that the attacker is completely rendered harmless.[/quote]   Surely the breaking of all limbs and castration is a little OTT?[/quote]   LOL, westheathen, I don't see where any one suggested breaking all limbs and castration.  But having been a victim of sexual assault (waaaaay before I was a nudist) the castration part sounds pretty fair to me.   [quote]As a black belt, I'd assume she is quite capable of disabling an attacker without putting him in the hospital ? Some just won't learn, I suppose, but her "gentle hint" should convince him. [/quote]    Curt, I hear where you're coming from but having learned self defense while taking Karate (Tang So Do) and having had to use a very simple technique to break a choke hold from a man easily 8" taller and 60lbs heavier than me, I can tell you that had the shock of my fighting back not resulted in me not needing to complete the action, his jaw would have been broken and he would have ended up in the hospital.   My Sa Bum Nim taught us that the true winner of any fight was the one who walked away before the fight began, but that when one was attacked, make sure the attacker could not get up to attack you again.   Nudedazza, Kudo's to your girlfriend.  Sorry to hear that she experienced this at a nudist venue.  As vulnerable as nudity can be, I've always felt physically safer in a nudist environment than I have in most textile environments. And the two times I've been attacked had absolutely nothing to do with nudism.   Jen

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  westheathen

  Feb 15, 2011

  It was the comment about the asailant being rendered completley harmless that made me suggest that.  It would remove any threat that a man could have over a woman, which are normally either physical or sexual in origin.

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  JackNeilson

  Feb 15, 2011

  [quote][quote]Good for her! When physical force becomes necessary, there should be no half measures. You must make certain that the attacker is completely rendered harmless.[/quote]         Surely the breaking of all limbs and castration is a little OTT?  That is the only sure way.[/quote] I don't remember reading anything about broken limbs or castration. True, that would be over the top but the following from an unarmed combat instructor (language cleaned up) would be really over the top: "The first step is kicking him hard in the kneecap while gouging toward his eyes, thus bringing him to the ground and he will automatically protect his eyes. Once you have your enemy off his feet you have to finish him off quickly and quietly. The first step is falling on his chest with both knees thereby crushing his ribs. Take two quick swipes with the flat of your hand first across the bridge of his nose thus busting in his face and blinding him, second at the base of his neck thus stunning him or maybe cracking his spinal column. For neatness use both thumbs jamming down into his adams apple thus choking him. To polish the job you may kick him square between the legs a few times. --- but if that s.o.b. gets up you'd better take off and start praying."   Obviously if you tried this you would be arrested for at the very least excessive use of force. That instructor taught only a few of the basic kicks, blows and blocks from martial arts which pertained to unarmed combat and he never took any of the martial arts up as a sport but he sure knew his unarmed combat and got the message across. To the best of my knowledge he has always been able to talk his way out of possible confrontations as a civilian.

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  Oregongirl

  Feb 16, 2011

  [quote][quote]since resorts are private property the owners always make a "no weapon" rule.  A concealed carry permit would do you no good there.[/quote]   HAHA good one. Where on a nudist can you conceal a weapon????[/quote] Well having a loaded gun in your car makes it concealed.  Having it in your backpack, purse, or fannypack or anything else you carry your stuff in makes it concealed.  I assume that a lot of us carry something around to keep our personal belongings in such as cellphones, sunblock...etc.  Just because someone is nude doesn't mean that they don't have a weapon. To be honest, that was the one thing I disliked about being at a resort.  My fiance has his CCW and it makes me feel a lot safer knowing that we have a surefire method of self defense.  Not just against people, but mostly at resorts and campgrounds to be against animals.  Lots of big animals here that like to bite people's heads off.

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  r-a-891

  Feb 23, 2011

  Good for her indeed.

  I'm sorry to say this but Im disturbed by the comments regarding carrying things such as a 9mm.

  You cant complain about the world being a more violent place if you yourself own a weapon. Thats just my personal opinion. There are dozens of effective ways to apprehend a human being without firing a piece of metal into them.

  Please think again before making such brazen comments regarding ownership of guns. Its hugely insulting to those who believe they are a major source of many of the worlds problems.

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  paul

  Mar 3, 2011

  sounds like shi did a great job   keep it up

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  paul

  Mar 3, 2011

  sounds like shi did a great job   keep it up

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  paul

  Mar 3, 2011

  sounds like shi did a great job   keep it up

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  muskate16

  May 4, 2011

  I would of done the same exact thing! Kudos! I guess this is one of the reasons i am a little leery of going to  a beach alone, have heard some horror stories!

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• ME

  Member

  May 4, 2011

  Where does a nudist carry and conceal a deadly weapon safely!  I am a law abiding citizen with a CCDW.  But only carry when textiled.  However, I often have a pistol nearby when naked.

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  Curt, or Cowboy

  May 4, 2011

  [quote][quote]As a black belt, I'd assume she is quite capable of disabling an attacker without putting him in the hospital ? Some just won't learn, I suppose, but her "gentle hint" should convince him.[/quote] Curt, I hear where you're coming from but having learned self defense while taking Karate (Tang So Do) and having had to use a very simple technique to break a choke hold from a man easily 8" taller and 60lbs heavier than me, I can tell you that had the shock of my fighting back not resulted in me not needing to complete the action, his jaw would have been broken and he would have ended up in the hospital.[/quote] Don't misunderstand ! Apparently, your "gentle hint" was enough to convince your attacker to back off. IMHO, that's the way things go, ideally. Failing that, kill him ! If you're a little squeemish for that, then dislocate a shoulder, and break both knees, but do understand that he'll probably sue you for it. In the USA, you'd probably lose. Self defense is only applicable to criminals. The rest of us are supposed to call the police, and let nanny government handle it. For me, some suspect that I carry. Some are pretty certain I don't. By the time anyone knows for sure, someone is in a whole heap 'o trouble ! [quote]My Sa Bum Nim taught us that the true winner of any fight was the one who walked away before the fight began, but that when one was attacked, make sure the attacker could not get up to attack you again.[/quote] A wise man. I'll walk away from a fight every time, if possible. If not possible, severe damage will be done. I'm assuming such was the case in the situation originally posted, or at least hoping so. [quote]There are dozens of effective ways to apprehend a human being without firing a piece of metal into them.[/quote] When they've all failed, and I believe that my life is in imminent peril, then you have my permission to be hugely insulted. ( but *I* will still be breathing )

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  Curt, or Cowboy

  May 4, 2011

  [quote]Where does a nudist carry and conceal a deadly weapon safely![/quote] You do always have your towel handy, don't you ? [quote]I know that if someone around me were being harassed, I'd be inclined to tell them to stop it.[/quote] Personally, I'll try to avoid becoming directly involved, but make it quite clear that should the lady ask for assistance.....

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