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DanandJanetteOriginal Poster
Oct 3, 2013Still confused about the details. Supposedly this woman rammed a barricade, but pictures of her car afterwards show a front end in pristine condition. Did she ram it in reverse?
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Tom === Thomas S. TierneyOct 3, 2013"Attempted"ReactReply - DADanandJanetteOriginal PosterOct 3, 2013Attempted isn't the way it's been stated. Reports clearly said she rammed the barricade. Something about this story doesn't add up.....her vehicle comes to a stop, no weapon visible, THEN the cops unload on her. One cruiser has it's side almost completely ripped off by colliding with a barricade.....the damage is unbelievable. The whole thing is beginning to look like a horrendous over-reaction on the cop's part.ReactReply
- MEMemberOct 4, 2013From what I've seen, it's a real sad story. She fought with post-partum depression and possibly other mental afflictions; she had been hospitalized for mental illness. She out-maneuvered cops with her driving ability-maybe they need to drive Infinity's. As far as shooting her-well, she was clearly a danger and turned the car into a weapon. What's more, there was a child in the car and gunshots had to be precise.
Yet another indication that our mental health system is lacking common sense measures in favor of personal 'rights'. Only this time, a car was used-not a gun.ReactReply - DADanandJanetteOriginal PosterOct 4, 2013[quote]From what I've seen, it's a real sad story. She fought with post-partum depression and possibly other mental afflictions; she had been hospitalized for mental illness. She out-maneuvered cops with her driving ability-maybe they need to drive Infinity's. As far as shooting her-well, she was clearly a danger and turned the car into a weapon. What's more, there was a child in the car and gunshots had to be precise.
Yet another indication that our mental health system is lacking common sense measures in favor of personal 'rights'. Only this time, a car was used-not a gun.[/quote] Agree with all of the above, but what puzzles me was the deadly force used after the vehicle came to a stop and was no longer a threat. Is pouring lead into a car at the conclusion of a high speed chase SOP? Or would she be still alive had this happened away from a highly visible potential target?ReactReply - NU
NudeJohnnyOct 4, 2013Uhoh, I bet she knew who really killed JFK and "THEY" had to silence her.
ReactReply - MEMemberOct 4, 2013[quote][quote]From what I've seen, it's a real sad story. She fought with post-partum depression and possibly other mental afflictions; she had been hospitalized for mental illness. She out-maneuvered cops with her driving ability-maybe they need to drive Infinity's. As far as shooting her-well, she was clearly a danger and turned the car into a weapon. What's more, there was a child in the car and gunshots had to be precise.
Yet another indication that our mental health system is lacking common sense measures in favor of personal 'rights'. Only this time, a car was used-not a gun.[/quote] Agree with all of the above, but what puzzles me was the deadly force used after the vehicle came to a stop and was no longer a threat. Is pouring lead into a car at the conclusion of a high speed chase SOP? Or would she be still alive had this happened away from a highly visible potential target?
[/quote]I didn't watch all of the videos, so I don't know.
And now, there's a guy in Oregon who shot at a cop n started a gun battle---with 3 kids in the car!!! WTF!!! People are crackin up.ReactReply - MA
ManOfWicklowOct 5, 2013We know prime concern at all times is security,but from what I have seen,there was no need to shoot her. They overreacted.ReactReply - DE
DesertRatOct 6, 2013I believe that there was an over reaction by the police. What's really strange to me is that Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson and others haven't jumped into the controversy to condemn the shooting.ReactReply - RE
renebbareOct 6, 2013In a country where so many carry guns (for personal defence) surely you cant argue that in this, or any case, the authorities are not right to shoot to kill? After all the reason for any shooting is to kill something? And if she was not dead or incapacitated then surely the authorities would be right to continue shooting?As for the poor innocent child, well maybe he/she will get to vote one day and decide that maybe gun proliferation is not such a good thing after all!
ReactReply - DADanandJanetteOriginal PosterOct 6, 2013[quote]I believe that there was an over reaction by the police. What's really strange to me is that Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson and others haven't jumped into the controversy to condemn the shooting.[/quote] One key ingredient is missing. The Capital Police are in the employ of Dear Leader.ReactReply
- DADanandJanetteOriginal PosterOct 6, 2013[quote]In a country where so many carry guns (for personal defence) surely you cant argue that in this, or any case, the authorities are not right to shoot to kill? After all the reason for any shooting is to kill something? And if she was not dead or incapacitated then surely the authorities would be right to continue shooting?As for the poor innocent child, well maybe he/she will get to vote one day and decide that maybe gun proliferation is not such a good thing after all![/quote] Things haven't degenerated enough to shoot on the POSSIBILITY someone may be armed. Not yet, anyway.ReactReply
- MAManOfWicklowOct 6, 2013The main problem is,security personnel are insufficiantly trained when it come to using one's initiative with regards to fast reaction in life threatening situations.ReactReply
- NUNudeJohnnyOct 6, 2013
Yeah those bad cops, they should have let that poor innocent woman drive right over them. Damn self defense.
ReactReply - RErenebbareOct 6, 2013The 'possibility' is that a trained guard shot an unarmed woman rather than incapacitate the vehicle she was sitting in. No doubt he was feeling threatened and felt deadly force necessary.
I'm sorry I was not aware training was necessary for the use of initiative.
As for good cops/or bad, innocence of a woman and/or self defence - we will see this played out in court no doubt.ReactReply - DADanandJanetteOriginal PosterOct 6, 2013[quote]Yeah those bad cops, they should have let that poor innocent woman drive right over them. Damn self defense.[/quote] She had already stopped and was exiting the vehicle when they shot her, the danger of anyone being run over was past. So unless you're suggesting retribution was called for, her death was unnecessary. Critical thinking makes things a bit clearer, Johnny.ReactReply
- DADanandJanetteOriginal PosterOct 6, 2013[quote]The 'possibility' is that a trained guard shot an unarmed woman rather than incapacitate the vehicle she was sitting in. No doubt he was feeling threatened and felt deadly force necessary.
I'm sorry I was not aware training was necessary for the use of initiative.
As for good cops/or bad, innocence of a woman and/or self defence - we will see this played out in court no doubt.[/quote] There was a volley of shots from several officers, not one individual who might have jumped the gun. No pun intended.ReactReply - NUNudeJohnnyOct 6, 2013[quote][quote]Yeah those bad cops, they should have let that poor innocent woman drive right over them. Damn self defense.[/quote] She had already stopped and was exiting the vehicle when they shot her, the danger of anyone being run over was past. So unless you're suggesting retribution was called for, her death was unnecessary. Critical thinking makes things a bit clearer, Johnny.
[/quote]Don't know what video you were watching. ALL reports state she was IN THE CAR when shoot.Truthfulthinking makes things a bit clearer, DanielReactReply - DADanandJanetteOriginal PosterOct 6, 2013One of many.
http://rt.com/usa/us-capitol-shooting-lockdown-703/
From the link above --
"The car was quickly blocked in again, jammed between a number of
patrol cars and a security barrier installed after the terrorist
attacks on September 11, 2001. Then came the gunshots."ReactReply - NUNudeJohnnyOct 6, 2013[quote] One of many.
http://rt.com/usa/us-capitol-shooting-lockdown-703/
From the link above --
"The car was quickly blocked in again, jammed between a number of
patrol cars and a security barrier installed after the terrorist
attacks on September 11, 2001. Then came the gunshots."
[/quote]While she was STILL in the car.ReactReply - DADanandJanetteOriginal PosterOct 6, 2013Video of woman "ramming" police vehicle.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjhQaPc5uX4ReactReply - DADanandJanetteOriginal PosterOct 6, 2013Video of police car striking pop up barrier, causing the horrendous damage to it, seen in many pictures. Many stories implied the woman caused this damage by striking the vehicle herself.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ao3617loZ0kReactReply - NUNudeJohnnyOct 6, 2013[quote] Video of woman "ramming" police vehicle.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjhQaPc5uX4
[/quote]While she was STILL in the car.ReactReply - DADanandJanetteOriginal PosterOct 6, 2013[quote][quote] One of many.
http://rt.com/usa/us-capitol-shooting-lockdown-703/
From the link above --
"The car was quickly blocked in again, jammed between a number of
patrol cars and a security barrier installed after the terrorist
attacks on September 11, 2001. Then came the gunshots."
[/quote]While she was STILL in the car.[/quote] In or out, the vehicle was blocked in and stationary. The threat of rundown was negated. No weapon visible or implied. Tell me again why the cops opened up on her.ReactReply - NUNudeJohnnyOct 6, 2013[quote][quote][quote] One of many.
http://rt.com/usa/us-capitol-shooting-lockdown-703/
From the link above --
"The car was quickly blocked in again, jammed between a number of
patrol cars and a security barrier installed after the terrorist
attacks on September 11, 2001. Then came the gunshots."
[/quote]While she was STILL in the car.[/quote] In or out, the vehicle was blocked in and stationary. The threat of rundown was negated. No weapon visible or implied. Tell me again why the cops opened up on her.
[/quote]While she was STILL in the car.ReactReply