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DanandJanetteOriginal Poster
Oct 3, 2013Still confused about the details. Supposedly this woman rammed a barricade, but pictures of her car afterwards show a front end in pristine condition. Did she ram it in reverse?
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ManOfWicklowOct 14, 2013[quote]Who shall control the guns?[/quote]Government imbeciles.ReactReply - MA
ManOfWicklowOct 14, 2013[quote][quote][quote]Who shall control the guns?[/quote]Government imbeciles.[/quote]Then how do you have "sensible" gun control?[/quote]Exactly, you don't and never can.ReactReply - MEMemberOct 14, 2013[quote][quote][quote][quote]Who shall control the guns?[/quote]Government imbeciles.[/quote]Then how do you have "sensible" gun control?[/quote]Exactly, you don't and never can.[/quote]Not true-you can have sensible gun control:
If you have been convicted of a violent crime, if you are a habitual drug offender, if you suffer with certain mental illnesses, if you are a 'anti-gun' Democrat like Feinstein, then you are not permitted to own or possess a weapon.
If you do so illegally, then you go to prison for five years.
If you do so during the commission of a crime, then your prison term beyond the other crime is an additional twenty five years.ReactReply - MA
ManOfWicklowOct 14, 2013[quote]Not true-you can have sensible gun control:
If you have been convicted of a violent crime, if you are a habitual drug offender, if you suffer with certain mental illnesses, if you are a 'anti-gun' Democrat like Feinstein, then you are not permitted to own or possess a weapon.
If you do so illegally, then you go to prison for five years.
If you do so during the commission of a crime, then your prison term beyond the other crime is an additional twenty five years.[/quote]Oh yes, and with all the thousands of gun deaths every year, it is certainly working.ReactReply - T=
Tom === Thomas S. TierneyOct 14, 2013[quote][quote][quote][quote][quote]Who shall control the guns?[/quote]Government imbeciles.[/quote]Then how do you have "sensible" gun control?[/quote]Exactly, you don't and never can.[/quote]Not true-you can have sensible gun control:
If you have been convicted of a violent crime, if you are a habitual drug offender, if you suffer with certain mental illnesses, if you are a 'anti-gun' Democrat like Feinstein, then you are not permitted to own or possess a weapon.
If you do so illegally, then you go to prison for five years.
If you do so during the commission of a crime, then your prison term beyond the other crime is an additional twenty five years.
[/quote]That is not "Gun Control" That is people control.ReactReply - T=
Tom === Thomas S. TierneyOct 14, 2013[quote][quote][quote][quote][quote][quote][quote]Who shall control the guns?[/quote]Government imbeciles.[/quote]Then how do you have "sensible" gun control?[/quote]Exactly, you don't and never can.[/quote]Not true-you can have sensible gun control:
If you have been convicted of a violent crime, if you are a habitual drug offender, if you suffer with certain mental illnesses, if you are a 'anti-gun' Democrat like Feinstein, then you are not permitted to own or possess a weapon.
If you do so illegally, then you go to prison for five years.
If you do so during the commission of a crime, then your prison term beyond the other crime is an additional twenty five years.
[/quote]That is not "Gun Control" That is people control.[/quote]@bruce to use a worn out phrase, since when have criminals obeyed the law?@thomas People control IS the end game and the ends justify the means.[/quote]You want to control people? Seems I remember a war that theory caused.ReactReply - DE
DesertRatOct 14, 2013A while back we had a "lively" discussion on gun control and the 2nd amendment. Why are we going over these issues again? Has anything changed?ReactReply - T=
Tom === Thomas S. TierneyOct 14, 2013Oh! Was the problem solved?ReactReply - DE
DesertRatOct 14, 2013I thought the problem was solved on December 15, 1791. That is the date the Bill of Rights was ratified.ReactReply - SO
SoupieOct 14, 2013And slavery was legal then. Still in favour of that? Do you live in 1791?
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Tom === Thomas S. TierneyOct 14, 2013[quote]A while back we had a "lively" discussion on gun control and the 2nd amendment. Why are we going over these issues again? Has anything changed?[/quote]"A while back we had a "lively" discussion on:"Erections -ShavedGenitals -Driving Nude -Cooking Nude -Exposing ones self to the neighbors -Answering the door naked. -And Maaany more. -Shall we refrain from "going over these issues again?"OR Should we check with you first before we go over past issues?ReactReply - DE
DesertRatOct 15, 2013[quote]
And slavery was legal then. Still in favour of that? Do you live in 1791?[/quote]
Slave states also had laws that prohibited blacks from owning or using guns. Why was that? They knew that an armed slave was no longer a slave. The reason the founders of this Nation provided for the ownership of guns by the populace was because they knew that unarmed citizens would be at the mercy of a tyrannical government.
It is human nature that those in power will seek to increase their power in all ways possible. That innate desire is offset by the checks and balances provided by our Constitution. One of those checks is the second amendment.ReactReply - SO
SoupieOct 15, 2013Your argument leaves out any civilizing factor in society. It assumes that people are still basically neanderthal.
ReactReply - MEMemberOct 15, 2013[quote]Your argument leaves out any civilizing factor in society. It assumes that people are still basically neanderthal. [/quote]Proof of power corrupting is rampant throughout history-and so it is the government that should be considered inclined to being uncivil once the law abiding citizen is disarmed.
But, Soupie; the positions of those who oppose the Second Amendment leaves out civilizing factors in society and assumes people are basically neanderthals. That law abiding citizens are not responsible-shall we say not evolved sufficiently-to be trusted with firearms. It assumes that only those in power-those who are subject to the temptation of corruption-should be trusted with firearms.ReactReply - SO
SoupieOct 15, 2013"I'm not here to argue with you, so kindly leave me the hell alone"
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DesertRatOct 15, 2013[quote]
Your argument leaves out any civilizing factor in society. It assumes that people are still basically neanderthal. [/quote]I don't know who said it but I believe it's true. Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely.ReactReply - SO
SoupieOct 16, 2013I was just restating the obvious as well Gassy.
ReactReply - DADanandJanetteOriginal PosterOct 16, 2013[quote][quote] Video of police car striking pop up barrier, causing the horrendous damage to it, seen in many pictures. Many stories implied the woman caused this damage by striking the vehicle herself.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ao3617loZ0k
[/quote]Thanks for posting this[/quote] My pleasure. Knowledge is power.ReactReply
