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- FIFinallyFree73Nov 5, 2019
I agree with everything you said, everything . Even as a total newbie to the social nudity lifestyle, I felt that strangeness if you will that is going out of ones way to avoid almost any and all contact. If we want others to see us as normal people. (Just naked) then normal common decency rules should be enough. The three rules you listed, yep thats all it should be... Easy as 1,2,3.
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StevieLornaNov 5, 2019Naturist etiquette is actually quite simple.
Its exactly the same as being a textile . (Apart from always have your towel with you)
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EarlDNov 5, 2019[quote]Naturist etiquette is actually quite simple.Its exactly the same as being a textile . (Apart from always have your towel with you)[/quote]
Right dont know where the idea came from nudists dont touch. Just cause genuine nudists/naturists dont do full on sexual touching in public? Isn't appropriate to do that in any case.ReactReply - NUnudonyOriginal PosterNov 5, 2019I didn't post this in the "Sex and sexuality" section. Obviously I'm not talking about sexual touching.
On the topic of touching (which is just one element of my post), in the non-nudist world we give our friends full-body hugs. In the nudist world it's usually avoided. So it's not the same. To say: "nudist etiquette is the same as social etiquette in the textile world" is not quite accurate. My actual point is whether etiquette - beyond the 3 - is actually helpful or meaningful.ReactReply - NUnudeyooperNov 5, 2019[quote] I think most people have enough common sense to know what "bad behavior" is.[/quote] Most people yes, but it seems a growing number do not whether nude or textile.ReactReply
- EAEarlDNov 5, 2019[quote]I didn't post this in the "Sex and sexuality" section. Obviously I'm not talking about sexual touching. On the topic of touching (which is just one element of my post), in the non-nudist world we give our friends full-body hugs. In the nudist world it's usually avoided. So it's not the same. To say: "nudist etiquette is the same as social etiquette in the textile world" is not quite accurate. My actual point is whether etiquette - beyond the 3 - is actually helpful or meaningful.[/quote] Interesting I didnt address my post as response to your post but rather the reply about touching being the norm across all social setting. I dont know what anyone elses experience is but that is mine people touch hug comment as they would appropriately in a "textile" setting in the naturist community I frequent. There are some thing appropriate in public and others are to be left for private. Wives and husbands and partners hug kiss or high five after a great point in a volleyball game in a casual non sexual way just as they might in a clothed situation. They only time I have seen touch cautioned is if it develops into something overtly sexual. To bad that isnt your experienceReactReply
- JO
JohnNov 6, 2019Nudony - it would be helpful to the debate if you could do two things:
(1) Post a copy of the sheet of rules if you still have it but not necessarily identifying the resort.
(2) Amend your third rule "Only naked in the pool and hot-tub" to read "nudity is compulsory in the pool and hot tub" as your wording can be misinterpreted by non USA English speakers as stating that the pool and hot tub are the only places when you can be naked.
Personally I would also include the sauna and steam room in the list of places where nudity is compulsory but that may be a matter of taste.
My own take on nudist etiquette is: "Behave as you would in the public rooms of a high class hotel."ReactReply - MC
McdcvsNov 12, 2019Of the few "Nudist" places i have visited, Non Sexual touching is allowed as well as cameras, phones and tablets.
The only places I have been that restrict both are the hot springs. They all require that you leave your phones or other photographic devices in you car. Except for Valley View where they just request that you don't photograph anyone without their permission.
One place in particular has a reputation of the owner kicking people out for innocent physical contact between adults. My thinking is that there must have been something that happened and the law cracked down on them.
ReactReply - EAEarlDNov 12, 2019[quote]Of the few "Nudist" places i have visited, Non Sexual touching is allowed as well as cameras, phones and tablets. [/quote] This has been my experienceReactReply
- KE
KevinNov 12, 2019I'd have to agree with the majority of posters here that things have gone too far, and in my opinion it's because both nudists and non-nudists often still equate nudism as being tied to sex or sexuality. We're sexual beings but because non-nudists often associate nudity with sex (and because we as nudists want so desperately to correct that way of thinking), we as a group have legitimatized excessive rules in trying to eliminate any behavior that might even remotely hint of sexuality or intimacy. In an attempt to validate that we participate in non-sexual social nudity we've literally tried to sanitize every aspect of interaction we have with spouses and friends. As long as physical interactions aren't sexual then they aren't bad. I would want to see spouses react to one another in a naturist setting just as they would interact as if they were in a grocery store or on a textile beach. Friends who would interact with one another in a specific way if they were playing volleyball in a public park should interact with one another the same way on a nude beach - a hug or a slap on the buttcouldbe normal for this group and it's not being done in a sexual manner so it shouldn't be scrutinized as such. While I think when you first meet another nudist there is a more stringent and correct way to interact physically with someone, spouses and friends who interact physically with one another in a non-sexual manner shouldn't change the way they do based on whether they are naked or clothed. I would say that we all do need to be cognizant of the fact that just as there are non-nudists who do not appreciate physical contact or have personal limits that there are nudists with the same personal preferences, and you have to know your friends. We all know who the "huggers" are in our lives and I assume we all have that one friend that hates to hug, but to remove all contact with those close to you (and whose thresholds you know) when you are in a nudist setting is not healthy and does nothing to promote the nudist lifestyle. As for always acting like I'm in a 5-star hotel lobby when we're on a nude beach, I'm loathe to think that a man or woman at a nude beach shouldn't be able to lay back with their husband's or wife's head on their stomach or shoulder and enjoy the moment with one another, or that any one of us would be sexist enough to think that any gender would need to sit or lay in a specific position in order to keep nudism "respectable" to the outside world. Nudism should be safe, but it should also feel natural and right now it doesn't always feel natural having to cross-reference some very archaic checkpoints on our self-imposed lists...ReactReply - MEMemberNov 12, 2019
Thank you.
Let's not adopt rules that even many of those who wear clothes would scoff at. Violence and harassment should be banned and reported as the crimes they are. Also, we all have the Constitutional Right to look and or walk away. If someone is breastfeeding, most adults won't stare; if someone is cleaning their nose, most folks look away. A book and or headphones at a beach help keep the peace.
ReactReply - JOJohnNov 12, 2019[quote]As for always acting like I'm in a 5-star hotel lobby when we're on a nude beach, ... ...[/quote] I apologise for not making it clear that I was equating a nudist resort to a hotel and in that context I was trying to differentiate respectable hotels from establishments such as the type of place which which lets rooms by the hour. Behaviour on a textile beach is often different from behaviour elsewhere and I would expect the same behaviour on a nudist beach. I except, of course such stretches of beach as the notorious portion at Cal d'Agde.ReactReply
- SA
Stone AndyNov 12, 2019Ive only been to one nudist resort, Valley View in Wisconsin and didnt care for it much because it felt very confining and the people werent friendly. I remember the main event was couples in their 60s silently bobbing on foam noodles in a small swimming pool. I didnt pay much attention to the written rules since the unwritten rules werent particularly inclusive or welcoming. As an overwhelmed but still boring single dad, Ive come across the rule that solo parents must have a written consent from the other parent if both parents are not attending. Do I need to call a lawyer or recruit a mom to bring my kids? Will they do a blood test to ensure paternity? On the other hand, Ive also heard of resorts with explicit sexual behavior out in the open.
There doesnt seem to be a happy middle ground for resorts between inactive vs. active in all the wrong ways or no touch or any touch, any where, any how. I like to hike but prioritize the trail over pants and understand resorts on the coasts would be better suited to me. In the meantime, I prefer hiking in shorts only in a state park. Given the etiquette and written or unwritten discrimination against males guilty of nudity by singlehood, nudist resorts, at least in the Midwest USA, are not a growth industry.
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BUT, being treated like kids in a parochial school, isn't the answer. We're adults snd should be treated as such. There'll always be a few turds ruining it, but let's be real! I cant believe some of the crap that's been pushed on some people that I've seen at some nude resorts, or campgrounds. Very childish. But no, we adult's get treated like kids. It wasn't done to me, but had it, I cant believe that I could've kept quiet. I'm not the type who suffers in silence. Rules, we need them, but we need reasonable ones too. I guess my Catholic school upbringing and experience with nuns (I shudder), is still a sore subject.
ReactReply - KEKevinNov 13, 2019[quote]As for always acting like I'm in a 5-star hotel lobby when we're on a nude beach, ... ... I apologise for not making it clear that I was equating a nudist resort to a hotel and in that context I was trying to differentiate respectable hotels from establishments such as the type of place which which lets rooms by the hour. Behaviour on a textile beach is often different from behaviour elsewhere and I would expect the same behaviour on a nudist beach. I except, of course such stretches of beach as the notorious portion at Cal d'Agde.[/quote] No apologies necessary and I may have taken that example to an extreme - bad on my part!ReactReply
- KEKevinNov 13, 2019
You all have made some very good points here, and there seems to be a broad agreement that so many of the rules in place aren't valid.
It occurs to me that many of these rules of etiquette are applied for 1 of 2 reasons: Either a nudist or nudists have crossed an invisible line and an organization wanted further moral definition to an existing rule of etiquette, or else these advanced rules were created not for nudists as a safeguard but instead to present a public statement that says that nudism is a safe albeit clinical lifestyle.
I truly think that so much of what is presented as The Rules of Etiquette at some resorts is more for external consumption and in place solely to "sanitize" the lifestyle for those not participating in it...
ReactReply - A-A-outsideNov 13, 2019
Hi, newbie here.
We have not been to an actual nudist resort, just clothing optional beaches and one sort of resort ( Nude Hotel, Zipolite ) with a very relaxed rules. Basically just the towel rule.
Everyone was still very civilized if you can believe that.
Anyway, we where contemplating checking out a resort in Palm springs this winter, prob still will, but so many rules .
We'll have to go and form our own opinion and "when in Rome ... " and hopefully be at a more relaxed place.It makes doing what we do, finding our own private spots in the countryside around here and enjoying All the sun seem like the way to go. Unless you're a really social person I guess.
Anyway, Happy trails,.
And do what works best for you and yours.ReactReply - JOJohnNov 13, 2019[quote]... ... ... ... As an overwhelmed but still boring single dad, Ive come across the rule that solo parents must have a written consent from the other parent if both parents are not attending.... ... ... ... [/quote]I wonder how a widow or widower deals with this? I've also come across a case where a club who had a quota for single men as members expelled one man immediately after his wife died.ReactReply
- JOJohnNov 16, 2019
All men are created equal but some are more equal than others.
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Florida2007Dec 10, 2019Great message! Having visited over 25 nudist resorts and beaches, I agree with what you are expressing-keep it natural and enjoy the freedom of socializing Nude!
ReactReply - MAmako09Dec 12, 2019
We have been nudists for many years and have visited many clothing optional resorts and beaches and we have never encountered rules about non sexual touching. We personally would not support a place where a couple could not touch one another or a place where they enforced posture etiquette either. We are nudists for freedom and this is not what we want. These rules are more for trying to control exhibitionists.
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thadeusDec 12, 2019Is it standard at nudist resorts that cell phones aren't permitted? My wife and I visited a resort on Vancouver Island and, while there were no cellphones, there was a significant amount of radiofrequency radiation. My wife is highly sensitive to wireless radiation that would come off of cellphones and cell towers. It seems , with the growing concern of wireless radiation, there would be more awareness in the naturist community about this and, perhaps, some nudist resorts providing unnatural electromagnetic radiation free recreation opportunities.
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SApr 12, 2021Totally agree, we don't go to resorts, we prefer to be naked on our boat and on the beach. We are affectionate clothed or naked. As shocking as it may seem, we are even have sex on the boat or on secluded beaches, but are always careful to make sure we are out of sight of others and by ourselves. Normal behavior.
ReactReply - STStevieLornaApr 12, 2021
Nothing shocking about that, Im sure most people would make love in an isolated place. We have, often.
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