A way around the law. US — Legal Issues on True Nudists

TimOriginal Poster

Oct 7, 2013

So I have been rolling something around in my head that I want to throw out there. First let me tell you all about me (Tim). Marine for 8 years. I think very logical and something that really tweaks me is when people use things the wrong way. For example, clothes are meant to protect you. From the sun, dangers at work an so on. At least that is how I see it.
Enough about me. So my idea about getting around the law is to create a religion, I do not know a whole lot about how to do it but I have googled it and found it may actually be pretty easy. Something as simple and worshipping the Christian god but believing that god wanted to us to be nude rather they eat from the tree of knowledge and cover our selves. If I understand my rights, and I may very well not. Would then freedom of religion give us the right to be nude anywhere?
Also just a side note, I think that nude protests about things other then nudist rights is offensive.

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Tom === Thomas S. Tierney
Oct 7, 2013
I hate cats - I'm going to form a religion where everyone must kill a cat under freedom of religion.
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TimOriginal Poster
Oct 7, 2013
I also dislike cats, but not really what I was going for. The US is full of loop holes and crap, is this one or no?
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Soupie
Oct 7, 2013
Believe me, the world does not need anymore religions.
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Soupie
Oct 7, 2013
What utter bullshit! The idea that christians are somehow "persecuted" in North America is ridiculous. But then, I'm sure that you are still convinced that Obama is a radical muslim. But I'm always delighted to see the stupidity and paranoia of the extreme right. It ensures that the majority of voters are convinced that they are nutbars.
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Soupie
Oct 7, 2013
The best solution is to hide in your bunker and cease all communication with the outside world.
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Member
Oct 7, 2013
[quote]What utter bullshit! The idea that christians are somehow "persecuted" in North America is ridiculous. But then, I'm sure that you are still convinced that Obama is a radical muslim. But I'm always delighted to see the stupidity and paranoia of the extreme right. It ensures that the majority of voters are convinced that they are nutbars.[/quote]Well, the Soupster has returned to vulgarize the site once again....
Here are just two articles that support my position...there are many more...http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2013/10/04/catholic-priests-in-military-face-arrest-for-celebrating-mass/

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/10/03/dr-ben-carson-says-irs-targeted-him-for-his-anti-obama-comments/

Also, I have never claimed that Obama is a Muslim. I have no proof of it-he seems much more agnostic to me. But he is clearly sympathetic to them.
Welcome back, boy. And thanks for the opportunity to once again defeat a position of yours. But in the future, keep it clean. You can use your TS account to go vulgar.
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Soupie
Oct 7, 2013
Bullshit is bullshit. As far as "clean" goes, you probably haven't seen a bar of soap in ages. It's likely to contain a brainwashing ingredient that Obama planted. When you have republican congressmen and senators admitting to the fact that they are responsible for the shutdown, who should you believe. You seem to want to pervert the democratic process in the U.S. If you don't like a law that has been passed by congress and approved by the supreme court, then you counter with a new bill and see if you can get it passed. You don't whine like babies and create filibusters where they don't even make sense. Like the crap that you parrot from Fox News. Two of their recent stories about Obama have been completely debunked by Snopes.com. Clearly, you are as gullible as a fox "host".
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Oct 7, 2013
[quote]Bullshit is bullshit. As far as "clean" goes, you probably haven't seen a bar of soap in ages. It's likely to contain a brainwashing ingredient that Obama planted. When you have republican congressmen and senators admitting to the fact that they are responsible for the shutdown, who should you believe. You seem to want to pervert the democratic process in the U.S. If you don't like a law that has been passed by congress and approved by the supreme court, then you counter with a new bill and see if you can get it passed. You don't whine like babies and create filibusters where they don't even make sense. Like the crap that you parrot from Fox News. Two of their recent stories about Obama have been completely debunked by Snopes.com. Clearly, you are as gullible as a fox "host". [/quote]Some things never change. Soupster, I'll permit you the sunshine of my wisdom.
- You're right about soap- I use liquid body wash.- Everyone with half a brain can see that it is the Democrats that are causing the 'shutdown' of 17% of the government.- The bill was passed without anyone being permitted to read it and without one single Republican vote or recommendation being written in, and then it was rewritten by the Supreme Court-twice-to have it pass constitutional muster. When a bill that impacts society so heavily, it should be carefully considered-actually read-and negotiated to achieve some level of bipartisan support. Obama has-in violation of law-suspended portions of the law that he deems necessary, but not others that are equally premature and costly. The law is damaging and illegitimate by any reasonable standard.
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Soupie
Oct 7, 2013
So why do you have more moderate republicans admitting openly on CNN that their party is responsible for the shutdown? I guess that you only hear what you want to hear. From some really scurrilous sources. But my all means, keep it up! You and Ted Cruz will be ushering Hillary into the White House in 2016.
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Soupie
Oct 7, 2013
And trust me, you can neither provide sunshine or wisdom. Just black clouds of inanity brought to you by Faux News. The republican party hasn't cared about you since you were a fetus.
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Tom === Thomas S. Tierney
Oct 7, 2013
YAY! Soupie is back.
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Soupie
Oct 7, 2013
Just stopping by to make sure that the idiocracy are still receiving their government disability and pension cheques. Sure enough, they're still biting the hand that feeds them.
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Tom === Thomas S. Tierney
Oct 7, 2013
Missed your wit.
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jason
Oct 7, 2013
another thread hijacked by arguments not exactly related to original post.
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Tom === Thomas S. Tierney
Oct 7, 2013
Original post is nonsense.
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Soupie
Oct 7, 2013
Nope. The way around the law is to pass a new one threw both houses of congress. Why doesn't someone propose one instead of holding the country hostage to stop one.
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Tom === Thomas S. Tierney
Oct 7, 2013
What are you talking about? The original post is about a religion for naked people.
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Soupie
Oct 7, 2013
I was talking to brucella.
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ManOfWicklow
Oct 7, 2013
[quote]What are you talking about? The original post is about a religion for naked people.[/quote][img src="https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/2574476288/h451E921D/">
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Tom === Thomas S. Tierney
Oct 7, 2013
I've begun worshipping the sun for a number of reasons. First of all, unlike some other gods I could mention, I can see the sun. It's there for me every day. And the things it brings me are quite apparent all the time: heat, light, food, and a lovely day.There's no mystery, no one asks for money, I don't have to dress up, and there's no boring pageantry.And interestingly enough, I have found that the prayers I offer to the sun and the prayers I formerly offered to "God" are all answered at about the same 50% rate.
~George Carlin, Brain Droppings

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Soupie
Oct 7, 2013
I don't know thomas, I've had some pretty bad sunburns.
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Tom === Thomas S. Tierney
Oct 7, 2013
That's a George Carlin quote. I agree with you. have had skin cancer. I know a very good dermatologist
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outothebakyrd
Oct 7, 2013
Wish you luck. The Puritans kinda screwed things for those who try to think with an open mind many many years ago and some how it contiues. Just my opinion.
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orbarebear
Oct 8, 2013
I think a religion that believes clothes separate us from the world we're a part of would be interesting. FWIW: http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Religion discusses the legal definition...
I participated in the World Nake Bike Ride last year, which isn't really about nudity itself, though many that participate make it so. I just thought it was fun myself, but made it about nudity when I had the opportunity to talk about it; I suspect the same could be done for any "nude protest".
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