In the last two years we have visited a dozen nudist/clothing optional resorts in the eastern quarter of the U.S. The overwhelming majority of guests are nude only at the pools. At dinners and dances some males are nude, but very few females. We just had dinner (nude) with 45 other diners at a prominent Florida resort and there were two other nude diners. The temperature outside was 80, so weather wasn't an issue. Looking for resorts where this isn't common.
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- MEMemberApr 12, 2016I think I know where you had dinner. If I am correct you are right. This same restaurant offers one night a week as nude night where you get a free glass of wine if you dine nude. Its crazy to think a resort has to resign to that. I am at the resort numerous days a week. I walk the perimeter of the park for exercise. It too isnt uncommon to see residents and RVers out in their yards or sitting around clothed. I live a short distance from the resort and our community is made up of 60 percent of members of the resort and the attitude of my neighbors are the same way. They almost live in denial of nudism. I had one neighbor who sold their home in the resort and bought in our community because they felt pressured to live nude at the resort but yet they are still members and visit and do activities nude there. In fact, my own wife has now adapted herself to only being nude at the resort and never at home. Go figure!ReactReply
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JohnApr 12, 2016My very first resort experience was at a very well known and very nice place in Florida near Mickey's place. Had a really great first time experience. Facility was top notch, friendly people, etc. I was however, very disappointed the the diner and subsequent dancing to a DJ was clothed. I felt cheated in a way as that would have been as liberating as my first steps onto the pool deck.
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J.Apr 12, 2016John and new are definitely talking about the same resort. When we were last there the nude diners were making a better showing (the first night was the aforementioned free glass of wine if you are nude night, and the second & third nights were part of Nude-a-palooza weekend). We still have fun there every October for J's birthday, which happens to fall on Nude-a-palooza week.
One resort where nudity is more common than clothes in the dining area is Club Orient. There are usually less than 3-4 that ARE wearing clothes when we have been there for dinner. Lunch can sometimes draw people from the cruise ships who are clothed as well. Not in the US, though. How about White Tail Resort in Ivor, VA? I thought they were nude not C/O.ReactReply - JOJoeD1949Original PosterApr 15, 2016White Tail policy says nude in the pool, in the restaurant and at dances. The only place the policy is followed is at the pool. I admire Bob for trying and he certainly leads by example, but like other places mentioned in the topic, people just don't get it.
Club Orient is indeed the most nude place we've been. Since Papagayo is an open air restaurant it tends to get a little toasty many nights. Dancers that start the evening clothed often take it all off later.
Nude Night is a big hit. We especially like first Thursdays when Big Dan does his hits from the 50s and 60s. Since most diners are nude anyway the dancers are as well. That's often our favorite night at Lakeside, but it's only one night a month.ReactReply - MEMemberApr 15, 2016
My wife and I attend many of the dances at Lakeside on the weekends. Many stay dressed. A couple may be entirely nude. Myself.... I usually go nude or to stay with the theme I go bottomless. My wife will normally be dressed.
ReactReply - JOJoeD1949Original PosterApr 15, 2016Lakeside is a special place for us. It's by far the site of most of our dinners out the past two years. Papagayo is second. Many of the guys wear only a shirt. I wear that if anything. My wife has purchased quite a few sexy outfits at Fig Leaf and enjoys wearing them. A few leave nothing to the imagination. Last week, three ladies showed up for dinner wearing the same "dress" and two of them had the same color! The last two Saturdays were huge nights. All tables were filled and they were turning guests without reservations away. The dance floor was packed most of the night and near the end most guys and lots of women were nude. That's the way it should be every night.ReactReply
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Lakeman221Apr 15, 2016If I take the time, effort and expense of going somewhere where nekkidness is allowed, then I am going to be NEKKID as much and as long as I can while there. I can wear clothes everywhere, but there are only a select few places by comparison that I can be without clothes, and if I go there, it is for the purpose of being with NO clothes on. Otherwise, why go? You could just as easily have gone to one of the Millions of places that MAKE you wear clothes, no option to go without. If you see me at a place where I can be nekkid, and I have clothes on, it is ONLY because I just got there within the last couple of minutes, or I am about to go out the gate. Other than that, I am going to be nekkid for as long of a continuous time as I can be. See my thread in General Discussions, titled Longest Time Spent Nude for a better understanding. Please add comments on there if you would. Maybe most have seen it by now though, but haven't added their time for some reason.ReactReply - DE
DesertRatApr 16, 2016In my estimation, even though it is CO, I believe that nudity is the rule at Shangri La Ranch in Arizona. I wish that the management was more into practicing what they are selling.ReactReply - MEMemberApr 16, 2016
An article this past fall in the NUSA sun magazine by Jaye Francis spoke of this particular thing. She talked about the new ways of nudism and the freedom of choice and how they blend together. Do I necessarily agree with? No. I too feel nudism is about being nude.... Not mingling with nudes while clothed. I think many at the Lakeside are dressed either for the theme party and some feel they dress so as not to be the minority being unclothed. The second is the one that troubles me. I feel if clothing is more accepted, we will soon just be another resort but with the option of clothing. If that happens will our memberships or entrance fees drop being more visitors will be using the facilities. I doubt it. But again I see that with the decrease in nudists especially with youth. It may be an opportunity for none nudists to understand the luxury nudism brings and maybe promote the life we enjoy. So maybe its a give and take situation.
ReactReply - J.J.Apr 16, 2016[quote]Lakeside is a special place for us. It's by far the site of most of our dinners out the past two years. Papagayo is second. Many of the guys wear only a shirt. I wear that if anything. My wife has purchased quite a few sexy outfits at Fig Leaf and enjoys wearing them. A few leave nothing to the imagination. Last week, three ladies showed up for dinner wearing the same "dress" and two of them had the same color! The last two Saturdays were huge nights. All tables were filled and they were turning guests without reservations away. The dance floor was packed most of the night and near the end most guys and lots of women were nude. That's the way it should be every night.
[/quote]Keep that momentum up! Hopefully when we get there for Nude-a-palooza, nude will still be the majority. This last October seemed to be trending that way as well, at least compared to the year before.ReactReply - CA
CabotCheeseApr 19, 2016If the resort is a nudist resort, nudity should be required.
At a clothing optional resort, the patrons can chose as they wish. I've been to dinner at a resort where the majority were dressed. I knew it was optional so felt quite normal naked even though the majority were clothed, I knew they would not mind. I found it liberating to go everywhere naked regardless how others dressed.
Some people like the choice. I'm comfortable at either type of resort.ReactReply - FU
FullSunApr 19, 2016I do not understand why it should be required. If I want to be nude I will be but I have no right to tell someone they must be if they are not comfortable. This evening we went to dinner at Cypress Cove and probably 25%-30% were nude but many were not. Why? As evening set in it got cool. I heard a number talking about how they were cold including my wife who needed to put something on to be able to go to dinner and not be 'freezing'. Others said they had plans offsite after dinner and I'm sure some had other reasons. Other times my wife will go nude. She didn't get fully dressed but needed something to be comfortable.
ReactReply - JOJoeD1949Original PosterApr 21, 2016
We are really on the fence with this issue and it often results in inflammatory responses when addressed. It's a nudist resort, so people are there to be nude. But.... No one should be forced to be nude or those that are uncomfortable with nudity at dinner won't be there at all. We lean toward the all nude, all the time, weather permitting argument, but can see the other side as well.
ReactReply - DEDesertRatApr 21, 2016Here's a hint for the ladies who, for whatever reason, go to a nudist resort and do not want to disrobe. Nothing screams "Look at me, I'm NOT a nudist." more than wearing a one piece bathing suit. You will stand out like a giraffe in a heard of cows. If you want to remain a little less obvious, just wrap a towel around your self. If you're wearing a bathing suit or not, it won't be obvious that you are not a nudist.ReactReply
- MEMemberApr 21, 2016
Maybe a positive to this argument would be that the non nudists would become comfortable around nudists. And with that maybe through time laws on nudism would be relaxed as people are less offended or afraid.
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nudonyApr 24, 2016[quote]I will see women with wraps that they pull up and around themselves when they leave the pool area, then sit somewhere else, and sometimes open it, or sit with it closed. No reason for why or not,,,they can be indoor or outdoors. The thin 'sarong' or wrap acts as their decency towel to sit upon, but so many times also becomes a total body cover if at a picnic table or for dining indoors. Men just arrive naked, toss down a towel for their hairy butt side, and enjoy the group or location in the nude nearly 24 hours a day at our resort. Dances the same way. Women in a sarong around waist, maybe topless. Men just out there on the dance floor flinging that penis in all directions as it flap-slaps loudly from thigh to thigh as they dance. Seems a bit one sided I'd say.
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Stéphane Deschênes wrote an interesting article on the sarong:- http://www.blog.bareoaks.ca/2014/08/the-sarong-destroyer-of-naturist-worlds.html
- And I quote: "Another element of textile mentality is the provocative tease. While it may not be the intention of the woman wearing a sarong, that aspect quickly manifests itself. As she walks, her legs are intermittently exposed, and occasional glimpses of her hidden body are revealed through the wrap’s slit. As naturists know, and many textiles will agree, partial exposure is far more erotic than complete nudity.
While the majority of women wrapped the sarongs only around their waists, some were wrapping their entire bodies. This is clearly a sign of further expansion in the redevelopment of body shame."
- Whether one agrees or not on the adverse ramifications of the wearing of the sarong, I've personally just come to accept it as a "staple" of the C/O culture. Which is why I'm partial to the nude resort culture, where the sarong is rendered "superfluous." As I've witnessed myself, the predominance of unclad women is a natural deterrent to the wearing of the sarong. On the other hand, a predominance of sarong-clad women can deter other women from being completely nude.
- I was at a club get-together once that lasted well into the evening, where merriment and drinking induced a party atmosphere. One woman was very reluctant to part with her coverage. With a little encouragement and support with all the nude people there, she opted to part with her sarong and no longer be the only covered person there.
- That kind of "nude spirit" is scarce in the C/O environment, hence the prevalence of the "dreaded" sarong.
ReactReply - J.J.Apr 24, 2016Before our first trip to Club Orient, my wife bought an opaque sarong to wear to dinner and dancing at night. On our first nude cruise she bought two sheer ones. These sheer ones hide NOTHING. She still wears the sheer ones to dinners and dancing, but has mostly retired the opaque one. For all intents and purposes she is nude, but she gets to feel like she is more modest in the indoor evening setting.
Getting that free glass of wine at the Lakeside was enough for her to take off the sheer sarong, so the bribery angle does work!ReactReply - KE
KeithApr 24, 2016Many of us on here feel the same way Julia, But alas we are such a small minority in the prudish world of ours.
ReactReply - NUnudonyApr 25, 2016[quote] Before our first trip to Club Orient, my wife bought an opaque sarong to wear to dinner and dancing at night. On our first nude cruise she bought two sheer ones. These sheer ones hide NOTHING. She still wears the sheer ones to dinners and dancing, but has mostly retired the opaque one. For all intents and purposes she is nude, but she gets to feel like she is more modest in the indoor evening setting.
Getting that free glass of wine at the Lakeside was enough for her to take off the sheer sarong, so the bribery angle does work![/quote]
I was at St Mart. in February. My GF brought a dress/wrap, which provides minimal coverage since it is intended to be worn over a bathing suit.- We went to Club O. and she decided to wear the dress/wrap sans bikini at Papagayo. And since the "bra" part of the outfit is very loose, well her breasts were hanging out of the sides in a "sideboob effect." Not to mention that the outfit was so short that part of her bottom was showing as well. There were a few nude women sitting close by; and personally, I thought her getup was much more "distracting" than these women's complete nudity. She stated that she felt much more comfortable with a "little something on." Her comfort mattered more to me than her "peek-a-boo" effect so I was ok with that. But I think it was more of a psychological thing/crutch; since her outfit left very little (or too much) to the imagination, and she would have blended in a lot better had she just gone nude.
But it's not about being prudish. :)
It's aboutusnudist who sometimes get bent out of shape if everyone is not nude.
I long for a time, and I think it would be quite pleasurable, to have nudism be mixed.
So even at nudist resort, some could be dressed and some not. People would have the right (and encouragement) to be dressed. And People would have the right (and encouragement) to be nude.
Being mixed in this way would a good thing.[/quote]I'm not against the idea; but personally I feel that the day nudity is legal in the textile world, it might make sense to make nudism more C/O. But since I can't go for a walk in the park nude, I prefer to be in a nudist environment where clothing is shunned. But that's just me! ;)ReactReply - MEMemberJul 28, 2016
I agree with you.If I am going to drive for 3 hours to go to the resort,I am going to be nude the whole time I am there.If you are going to stay dressed why go to a nudist resort?Being nude in the sunshine is my way of relaxing.
ReactReply - J.J.Jul 28, 2016We are heading to a local resort this weekend (Berkshire Vista in MA). They have a small restaurant with 15 or so tables, maybe 8 seats at the bar, and about 8 tables on a back deck. The deck is usually 100% nude, which is where we go to eat dinner and breakfast. Lunch is at a snack bar by the pool, so almost everyone is nude. The dances on Friday and Saturday are majority clothed in some way (including Mrs. J&C in her see-thru sarong), but I still love to dance nude. As the night goes on if the room gets hot enough more clothes come off, but it can get pretty cool in the Berkshires at night so some are nude only during the day while there. Dances are so much more fun when everyone is nude. There is no subconscious grouping into who's nude and who's not. The dances on the nude cruises usually start out mostly clothed (people have to dress in the dining room anyway). But since the dances can run to 2-3am, if you stay late enough the clothes come off there, too.ReactReply
- JOJoeD1949Original PosterJul 28, 2016
The "nude" cruise is where we expected everyone to be nude most of the time (dinner excluded). We read about people hardly waiting for the announcement that the shore officials were off the boat and it was time to get naked. The reality wasn't quite that way. The 2016 cruise was on a Celebrity ship and that upscale line provided two bathrobes per cabin. Basically, the ship looked like a floating geriatric ward! It got so bad that Barry put up signs at the theater entrances saying "no bathrobes". They were largely ignored. (Carnival is hosting the cruise for the next two years and I don't believe they provide robes.) The pool deck was really the only place onboard where the majority were nude most of the time. After dinner, we dumped our clothes and went nude to the shows and then to the lounges and we were definitely in the minority.
ReactReply - MEMemberJul 28, 2016Yes I remember the hoards of white robes walking around on the 2015 Cruise as well. Geriatric ward does describe that sight well.
If dances went till 2-3am we couldn't tell you. We can't make it past 11pm these days.ReactReply - JOJoeD1949Original PosterJul 28, 2016[quote]Yes I remember the hoards of white robes walking around on the 2015 Cruise as well. Geriatric ward does describe that sight well.
If dances went till 2-3am we couldn't tell you. We can't make it past 11pm these days.
[/quote]I had the misfortune of being sick as a dog for about four of the ten days of the cruise in 2016. At our stop in San Juan my only activity was to head for a drug store to stock up on meds. My dance card for the 2-3 am shift was definitely empty. Even after I recovered I didn't stay up much past 11. On debarkation day I overheard someone talking about everyone being naked at the dances the night before. Not going on the 2017 cruise, but we've already booked 2018. I'm thinking of pre-medicating for that one. Gotta say though, dancing naked is one of the greatest pleasures in life.ReactReply