Thanks for the correction. I am Panamanian I learned the English language in 1 month. Did not have time to be correct. I fondle on words all the time.
I Usually tell people that I don't need to look to smart. It is usually more embarrassing that I am also from somewhere else.
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- PE
Jun 15, 2011[quote]A fact of life: since language is the human species' primary medium of communication, it behooves those who wish to present arguments that are strongly against established norms and conventional wisdom to master the medium of words prior to offering those arguments. The more far-out the theories and arguments are, the more the readers are going to cite the communication deficiences of the arguer to reject the text in toto. Your opinions and viewpoints are, to be kind, radical if not unscientific. They cannot afford to be burdened with the added onus of poor spelling, grammar and word usage.[/quote] Of course.. I can own hope that your spanish is a good as his. If you are going to coomplain about his English remember he knows more than one language which is a lot more than a lot of Americans. Does your pettiness ever extend any further than insults.. NIM? I can see why you are always so cranky.. living alone as you do.. I could take the time to tear apart your profile for amusement the same way you do for fun. Sheesh.. read a book.. watch TV.. do something rather than being the site gossip and bitch.ReactReply - MEMemberJun 15, 2011
Hmmm, the OP is fluent in more than one language, and engineer, analyst, and nudist.
Seems like a smart guy to me. Is there some reason all the hostility has been levelled at him, or are you all just assholes??
Lets see, what shall we do today....oh lets go ginsult someone because he is different.
Trolls.
Every one of you. (cept Budgreen and Pete of course)ReactReply - BL
Jun 15, 2011[quote]A fact of life: since language is the human species' primary medium of communication, it behooves those who wish to present arguments that are strongly against established norms and conventional wisdom to master the medium of words prior to offering those arguments. The more far-out the theories and arguments are, the more the readers are going to cite the communication deficiences of the arguer to reject the text in toto. Your opinions and viewpoints are, to be kind, radical if not unscientific. They cannot afford to be burdened with the added onus of poor spelling, grammar and word usage.[/quote] For once NIM was just giving some advice. Unlike most other post ive read by NIM where he was just condesending. I must agree with NIM on this one. I read MANNYOCEANS profile and saw his charts there is definately a communication issue. But for the record its just "not smart" to tell someone you dont know anything about they're no smart. If you can care enough to insult someone then take the time to insure the insults are well deserved.ReactReply - PV
Jun 15, 2011[quote][quote]A fact of life: since language is the human species' primary medium of communication, it behooves those who wish to present arguments that are strongly against established norms and conventional wisdom to master the medium of words prior to offering those arguments. The more far-out the theories and arguments are, the more the readers are going to cite the communication deficiences of the arguer to reject the text in toto. Your opinions and viewpoints are, to be kind, radical if not unscientific. They cannot afford to be burdened with the added onus of poor spelling, grammar and word usage.[/quote] Of course.. I can own hope that your spanish is a good as his. If you are going to coomplain about his English remember he knows more than one language which is a lot more than a lot of Americans. Does your pettiness ever extend any further than insults.. NIM? I can see why you are always so cranky.. living alone as you do.. I could take the time to tear apart your profile for amusement the same way you do for fun. Sheesh.. read a book.. watch TV.. do something rather than being the site gossip and bitch.[/quote] He never complained about his English, and he never insulted him. (quite impressive restraint, seeing that he is a wacko)ReactReply - JA
Jun 15, 2011I believe that the subject was a comment on Manny's use of English in another of his posts and for some reason he started a new thread in reply. The problem most of us have is not with his English but with his subject matter and rambling writings. Examples can be found herehttp://www.truenudists.com/forum/viewthread.php?id=22254and herehttp://www.truenudists.com/forum/viewthread.php?id=22254ReactReply - DE
Jun 15, 2011Why was this original post put in The Ladies Room? At least it should have been under General Discussion.
ReactReply - SO
Jun 15, 2011You mean 'Stumble' on words not Fondle, which is to touch someone or something. Personally I think your command of English as a second language is very good indeed and that you learned it so quickly is amazing. Do not be put off by those on here that nit pic and criticize your efforts. They have nothing better to do with their lives.
ReactReply - JAJun 15, 2011[quote]Why was this original post put in The Ladies Room? At least it should have been under General Discussion.[/quote] His reason in post #42 of the above link was quote To be with woman, if I am lucky I can get their attention, after all since I am a real bonafyed scientist and I know that is impossible to settle in a plane with another guy unquoteReactReply
- JAJun 15, 2011Tom, in one of his posts he admitted that he did not have a PhD and had never attended college. His veracity in other statements he has made such as having been given letters of recommendation by the world's top scientists and world leaders are also suspect. Why then should we believe that he learned English in one month? Perhaps if you read his posts athttp://www.truenudists.com/forum/viewthread.php?id=22254andhttp://www.truenudists.com/forum/viewthread.php?id=22254you will understand why many of us are frustrated with him.ReactReply
- CR
Jun 15, 2011I am not sure what “Manny” was originally attempting to post or even why he posted what he did. What I am sure of is I find it extremely disturbing and alarming that so many here are so willing to bash, degrade and be so openly unkind. I speak several different languages and must admit I butcher the English language often and it is my first language. While I speak several different languages, fluently, English is by far the hardest to learn AND use.
I for one find it very difficult to understand why or how a group of people who claim to be so openly diverse unable or unwilling to accept everyone for who they are, as they naturally present themselves. Almost daily, there are posts about erections, jewelry, or some other adornment that raises eyebrows and it seems the same few are eager to tap into the thread with fiery remarks discounting and shunning the original poster for various reasons. Now this open attack on someone who merely, in his mind, world, imagination, made a post that even I didn’t understand and you bash him?
Maybe this place is not what I thought it was…I will continue to watch from a far but not really not so sure I like what I see thus far.ReactReply - CO
Jun 15, 2011[quote]I for one find it very difficult to understand why or how a group of people who claim to be so openly diverse unable or unwilling to accept everyone for who they are, as they naturally present themselves. Almost daily, there are posts about erections, jewelry, or some other adornment that raises eyebrows and it seems the same few are eager to tap into the thread with fiery remarks discounting and shunning the original poster for various reasons. [/quote] As you say, "the same few." Note that out of the 80 plus thousand members, that few are VERY few indeed.ReactReply - CRJun 15, 2011
Curt agreed. However those "few" seem to be the ones who are almost so hungry and eager to lash out and be the first to point out the faults of the others. So why don’t more of the silent people speak up? Perhaps because they don’t want the wrath of the minority? It really does pain me and concern me that should any of these individuals be in the same setting as I that they might unleash this negativity on me there.
I just do not know...
ReactReply - SOJun 15, 2011[quote]A fact of life: since language is the human species' primary medium of communication, it behooves those who wish to present arguments that are strongly against established norms and conventional wisdom to master the medium of words prior to offering those arguments. The more far-out the theories and arguments are, the more the readers are going to cite the communication deficiences of the arguer to reject the text in toto. Your opinions and viewpoints are, to be kind, radical if not unscientific. They cannot afford to be burdened with the added onus of poor spelling, grammar and word usage.[/quote] It is said that 'people in glass houses should not throw stones'!! Is 'Behooves' some sort of indigenous word for the Berks of Berkshire MA? It's certainly not a word from the English language! The reason why English is the world's Lingua Franca (that's Latin before you ask) is because it's a living and accommodating language. That's why it can accommodate the way you misspell Labour and Neighbour for example. You see to most people it's what is being said that is important, not how it is spelt. How do you know that a person is not dyslexic before you lay into them? You show no signs of being dyslexic so what's your excuse? I know, you won't say, you'll just call me names as usual! BTW why is it always you that nit pics? Most of us are more interested in what people have to say rather than how they spell it. You are lucky that it is the English that created your country and not the Spanish because then you would be as disadvantaged as the other non English speakers on this site. Learn some charity and humility and perhaps you could become a better human being...ReactReply
- SOJun 15, 2011[quote]On the other hand, NudeInMA posts the most erudite and helpful comments on this web site.[/quote] Is that the moonshine talking? verbosity and the use of long made up words does not make someone a sage or indeed 'erudite'. Could we do as well in Spanish?, I couldn't.ReactReply
- SOJun 15, 2011[quote][quote]On the other hand, NudeInMA posts the most erudite and helpful comments on this web site.[/quote] I agree with you PK, the poor pathetic few that mock him, don't even have 10% of his scholary knowledge. AND they certainly don't have his good sense of humour or excellence of fair play.[/quote] How sad!ReactReply
- SOJun 15, 2011[quote][quote]He's from somewhere else alright![/quote] No, I don't buy that story, he's a fruitcake born and bred in the USA.[/quote] Who are we, or you to judge? He could say the same thing about you but is probably too well mannered....ReactReply
- SOJun 15, 2011[quote][quote][quote]A fact of life: since language is the human species' primary medium of communication, it behooves those who wish to present arguments that are strongly against established norms and conventional wisdom to master the medium of words prior to offering those arguments. The more far-out the theories and arguments are, the more the readers are going to cite the communication deficiences of the arguer to reject the text in toto. Your opinions and viewpoints are, to be kind, radical if not unscientific. They cannot afford to be burdened with the added onus of poor spelling, grammar and word usage.[/quote] Of course.. I can own hope that your spanish is a good as his. If you are going to coomplain about his English remember he knows more than one language which is a lot more than a lot of Americans. Does your pettiness ever extend any further than insults.. NIM? I can see why you are always so cranky.. living alone as you do.. I could take the time to tear apart your profile for amusement the same way you do for fun. Sheesh.. read a book.. watch TV.. do something rather than being the site gossip and bitch.[/quote] He never complained about his English, and he never insulted him. (quite impressive restraint, seeing that he is a wacko)[/quote] Eh? What post were you reading?ReactReply
- SOJun 15, 2011[quote]Tom, in one of his posts he admitted that he did not have a PhD and had never attended college. His veracity in other statements he has made such as having been given letters of recommendation by the world's top scientists and world leaders are also suspect. Why then should we believe that he learned English in one month? Perhaps if you read his posts athttp://www.truenudists.com/forum/viewthread.php?id=22254andhttp://www.truenudists.com/forum/viewthread.php?id=22254you will understand why many of us are frustrated with him.[/quote] Thing is Jack, it's not really important what he has said or that he may well be a Walter Mitty living in his own little dream world, its that he should not be so attacked for doing so. Problem is that there is a developing cabal of bullies on here who seem to think they can wander round the playground attacking whomesoever they like and who stick their finger's in their ears and go 'yayayaya' if anyone has the audacity to take them to task. Its not smart and it just shows them for the ignorant people that they are. Lots of people talk utter crap on here. NiMA thinks I do, I think he does, so what? I don't care so why should anyone else about anyone else.ReactReply
- SOJun 15, 2011
CraigS you have summed it up well and I feel the same way that you do. We will probably get called names for saying this, I almost certainly will but bullies don't worry me.
ReactReply - CRJun 15, 2011
Thanks! Calling people names instead of discussing things openly is just what people do when they don't really have a good argument. I'm use to it and usually just blow it off. I'd rather give people reason to think than argue. Maybe those who are quick on the trigger are thinking about a well formed question vs. just stooping to calling names.
Fingers are crossed!ReactReply - CRJun 15, 2011
While I agree his nonsensical ramblings are rather disturbed and a bit odd I cannot help but wonder why if the masses here are so offended and angered by him why they simply just don't pass by his posts and ignore him? Why bash him? Why give him the attention he is so obviously wanting. Perhaps he is a genius and just so unable to get past the flood of thoughts and emotions so his posts seem to be ‘out of the norm’. There have been many in history that have been so intelligent that they are unable to function on their own or interact appropriately with society.
If the owners or mod’s of this site don’t see that these types of postings violate policy then just ignore this type of posting!ReactReply - SOJun 15, 2011[quote]For those trying to stand up for Manny and lashing out at NudeInMA for criticizing him, please take a moment and read this post.* Manny started this all first by starting a thread about how stupid all Christians were ("Religion Is Out - Become Sucker FREE"). In that rambling, nonsensical post, he seemed to outline how science and space exploration were discrediting religion, clearly suggesting that Christians and believers of other religions must be stupid and/or liars, how women are stupid, how he'd come up with some bizarre pseudo-science mixture of methods involving nudity to help women improve their intellectual capacity, etc. * He's elsewhere gone on about how he's got a superior intellect, how he learned English in one month flat, and how he's awarded himself a PhD so that everyone elsecan know how smart he is. * So, if you think this is a case of the high-and-mighty intellectuals of Truenudists attacking this poor, well-meaning foreign guy, you're way off-base. * I am likely the first who suggested his language was so lacking that it tends to undermine his claims of intellectual superiority. But, it's not just his spelling -- it's the magical thinking and loose semantic associations he includes which indicate that he seems to have a very loose grasp on reality. For that reason, assuming him to be mentally damaged, I've pretty well stopped responding to him. * He has further endeared himself by posting spammy commercial posts, trying to sell his insane theory books or get roommates or renters or somesuch. I've posted complaints, but he continues to be a member. * He's also inserted himself into other threads, posting COMPLETELY off-topic content which has nothing to do with the threads. It's very irritating. * I'm quite sure that NIM and others have attacked him back, trying to intimidate the irritating lunatic from posting further since the site owner has thus far done nothing to limit the crass jerk's bad behavior. * I understand why some of you are standing up for him, but I think you really should try to step back and check the context of what has gone on -- this is not an unjust persecution, even if some of the rebuttal posts have been insulting to this easy target.[/quote] To be honest, he may be deranged and a nuisance to you but your crass inability to accept the real problem most people have here is tiresome. What he has said is unimportant and no longer the issue. Its the attacks that have been made on another member of this site. If he is out of order its for the site owner to do something not the band of bigots on this site. Dictionery definition of Nudist: a person who believes that going naked is enjoyable and good for the health. Its got nothing to do with whether or not a person can put together a good argument!!! If you had not decesended into calling this person names then you may have had a point worth considering. BTW, what sort or 'persecution' is just??ReactReply
