ATM Nude

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  StevieLorna

  Aug 24, 2024

  Which few people?

  Is this the someone from another board said they done this story?

  Unless the ATM or bank is part of a nudist resort, why would you even think this is what a nudist would want to do?

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  EarlD

  Aug 24, 2024

  That is an excellent question that seems to to so disconnected from the way things are headed around here [quote] Unless the ATM or bank is part of a nudist resort, why would you even think this is what a nudist would want to do?[/quote]

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  Diane

  Aug 24, 2024

  Dont most ATMs have cameras. Smile

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  StevieLorna

  Aug 24, 2024

  [quote]That is an excellent question that seems to to so disconnected from the way things are headed around here Unless the ATM or bank is part of a nudist resort, why would you even think this is what a nudist would want to do?[/quote] Some people just want to make nudism wierder.

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  StevieLorna

  Aug 24, 2024

  Its always the same people who come up with this shit.

  Theyve never experienced social nudism, so they have to imaging what things nudist do. Having never met real nudists they always get it wrong.

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  EarlD

  Aug 24, 2024

  The difference between nudism and exhibitionism etc has been blurred to such a degree that no one what it is anymore. There is no completion to get naked in various different places. Public nudity is not a goal of nudism. Respectful social nudity is what nudism is all about.I went out to empty the garbage collect the mail early in the morning and my neighbor almost caught/saw meis notstatement about nudism. That just competitive individualist nakedness.

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  Tom DOriginal Poster

  Aug 24, 2024

  [quote]Which few people? Is this the someone from another board said they done this story? Unless the ATM or bank is part of a nudist resort, why would you even think this is what a nudist would want to do?[/quote] All but one were in England or Spain, both of which are more accepting of public nudity than in the US. The one in Florida was before dawn.

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  StevieLorna

  Aug 24, 2024

  [quote] All but one were in England or Spain, both of which are more accepting of public nudity than in the US. The one in Florida was before dawn.[/quote] This statement is exactly what I mean. You are so totally misinformed. No nudist in England or Spain would do this.(Ive never been to Florida. maybe they are all weird ) You have zero concept of the actual nudist world and what it means to be a social nudist.

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  Tom DOriginal Poster

  Aug 25, 2024

  [quote]All but one were in England or Spain, both of which are more accepting of public nudity than in the US.The one in Florida was before dawn. This statement is exactly what I mean. You are so totally misinformed. No nudist in England or Spain would do this.(Ive never been to Florida. maybe they are all weird ) You have zero concept of the actual nudist world and what it means to be a social nudist.[/quote] Public nudity is legal in many places in England and Spain. Why not take advantage of this?

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  EarlD

  Aug 25, 2024

  There is a real difference between social nudism and public nudity. If you look at the British Naturism guidelines they encourage public nudity as a group not just individual. You may not have a grasp of naturism and its expression of nudity in Europe. One final thought is just because something is allowable doesnt mean it is neccessary or acceptable. [quote] Public nudity is legal in many places in England and Spain. Why not take advantage of this?[/quote]

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  StevieLorna

  Aug 25, 2024

  [quote] Public nudity is legal in many places in England and Spain. Why not take advantage of this?[/quote] Once again you show your total ignorance of nudism. You, as always confuse your personal fetish for nudism, it is completely disingenuous and harmful to real nudists.

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  Fabienne

  Aug 25, 2024

  [quote]... Public nudity is not a goal of nudism ...[/quote] Maybe I can put this right a bit, as when I was in school I did one anual thesis about the history of nudism movement. Long time it was a main goal also to develop more public acceptance for nudity following the idea that it's a basic right to decide if you go clothed or bare. This has, on first hand, nothing to do with exhibitionism - that counts as criminal act in the law systems of most countries btw. To give another example. When I see someone dancing naked at a open air festival, my spontaneous idea is that's it's done for reasons of joy de vivre and not by exhibitionistic motivation. Just some thoughts to get off from this black and white thinking what nudism is about. I guess everyone has it's own ideas what could be adequate or not.

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  StevieLorna

  Aug 25, 2024

  Mr Fab, I agree almost entirely with your post.

  Yes, people can enjoy nudism in a many different ways.

  But I think its disingenuous to suggest its not always black and white as what nudism isnt.

  The OPs question about ATMs is a definite no. This is not nudism, and to frame the question in the way he has means he has no idea what it means.

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  J.

  Aug 25, 2024

  [quote]Mr Fab, I agree almost entirely with your post. Yes, people can enjoy nudism in a many different ways. But I think its disingenuous to suggest its not always black and white as what nudism isnt. The OPs question about ATMs is a definite no. This is not nudism, and to frame the question in the way he has means he has no idea what it means.[/quote] To be fair, there may have been an ATM in La Boutique or in the front lobby at Club Orient. One of those third party ones with excessive fees (which get even worse when it isnt in the same country as your bank). I would never throw my money away by using it, but if I REALLY needed to say I used an ATM nude, that would have been where I would try it (and I know that doesnt count as one in a bank). Are there any banks with ATMs in the nude quarter of Cap d'Agde or Vera Natura, or in Heliopolis on Ile du Levant? We could see ourselves eventually visiting either of the latter two and if there is any place left that still requires cash we could end up using an ATM to get some Euros while in the nude quarter.

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  Aug 25, 2024

  I'm just curious as the ATM's I've seen almost always have a camera to view the transaction; did anyone get an observational note from the authorities? Name, date, ID presented and validated exchange ... you were there.

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  StevieLorna

  Aug 25, 2024

  Yes there are. But thats not what the OP is asking. Hes asking [quote] A few people have mentioned going to an outdoor ATM nude. Has anyone gone to one in the vestibule of a bank nude when the bank was closed?[quote] if you get naked at your local ATM.

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  Tom DOriginal Poster

  Aug 26, 2024

  [quote]I'm just curious as the ATM's I've seen almost always have a camera to view the transaction; did anyone get an observational note from the authorities? Name, date, ID presented and validated exchange ... you were there.[/quote] As I mentioned earlier, all but one of the people who claimed they did it were in either England or areas of Spain where public nudity is legal, so getting caught would not cause a legal issue.

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  StevieLorna

  Aug 26, 2024

  You are so wrong about that. .

  I cant quite believe you are so naive.

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  Fabienne

  Aug 26, 2024

  [quote]... But I think its disingenuous to suggest its not always black and white as what nudism isnt. The OPs question about ATMs is a definite no. This is not nudism, and to frame the question in the way he has means he has no idea what it means.[/quote] Maybe i did write this a bit misunderstandably (sorry, I'm not a native english speaker). To me, some contris gave the impression, that - according to the authors - only living together naked socialized in special reserve areas should be the only true way to live nudism, while all other behaviour is exhibtionism. This is what i meant with black and white thinking. For example, if you hit the beach and you find 50 poeple in swimwear at the right side, while 25 poeople on the left side enjoy the beach in the nude, no one seriously would have the idea these are all exhibitionists. Using the ATM nude i wouldn't label as naturism as well, but basicly it could be nudism in the way that someone has decided to live an perma-integral nude live. That de facto this isn't possible or rcommendable in the society we live in, is another question. Probably in realtity the few naked uses of ATM are mainly results of dares, bets or drunkenness, like people who get gas naked or use the burger drive trough naked. So this would not count as true nudism, but just as some fun or nonsense.

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  Fabienne

  Aug 26, 2024

  [quote] Public nudity is legal in many places in England and Spain. Why not take advantage of this?[/quote] This is true, and in many other countries as well. But there are also social norms you have to consider. Though not a crime, public nudity might still count as disturbance of public order if someone feels bothered and result in a fine. So you always have to consider the setting and circumstances. Running around naked at a punk music festival or at the CSD parade is something other than to go shopping at the mall.

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  Mark

  Aug 26, 2024

  [quote]I'm just curious as the ATM's I've seen almost always have a camera to view the transaction; did anyone get an observational note from the authorities? Name, date, ID presented and validated exchange ... you were there.[/quote] Several years ago, I knew someone that was a branch manager at a local bank. The topic of cameras in the ATM came up and she said nobody monitors them and the video is only checked if something happens like the ATM being vandalized or a crime is committed in view of it that the Police request the video. . I doubt that the Police would bother with the hassle of getting the bank to release the video just to catch a naked person using the ATM, but if there was a report of it someone at the bank may review it just for kicks. From what she told me that has never happened.

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  Tom DOriginal Poster

  Aug 26, 2024

  [quote]... But I think its disingenuous to suggest its not always black and white as what nudism isnt.The OPs question about ATMs is a definite no. This is not nudism, and to frame the question in the way he has means he has no idea what it means. Using the ATM nude i wouldn't label as naturism as well, but basicly it could be nudism in the way that someone has decided to live an perma-integral nude live. That de facto this isn't possible or rcommendable in the society we live in, is another question. Probably in realtity the few naked uses of ATM are mainly results of dares, bets or drunkenness, like people who get gas naked or use the burger drive trough naked. So this would not count as true nudism, but just as some fun or nonsense.[/quote] Someone on this board who lives in Florida posted that he hasn't bought gas, gone to an ATM or taken the trash to the curb clothed since March and doesn't intend to do so as long as the pre-dawn temperature is above 70F. Seems like someone who lives naked as much as possible.

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  StevieLorna

  Aug 26, 2024

  I smell BS.

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  EarlD

  Aug 26, 2024

  This is the point t have trying to make. Just because something is legal doesn't mean there are no guardrails or boundaries. Furthermore and individual act of public nakedness doesn't constitute nudosm as suggested in this thread. Nudism has been and should be a state of mind and a way of life rather than a state of dress. When an I dividual promotes their behavior as nudism by saying they refuse to dress to go get the mail, put out trash or go to an ATM and justify that behavior as nudism or saying the video at the ATM is rarely viewed misses the point. When individuals engage in such behavior it reinforces a negative perception of nudism and social nudity. What has make the laws in places like the UK and Spain work is the national organizations focus of group activities where pu lic social nudity is present in a manner respectful of others as you describe. [quote] This is true, and in many other countries as well. But there are also social norms you have to consider. Though not a crime, public nudity might still count as disturbance of public order if someone feels bothered and result in a fine. So you always have to consider the setting and circumstances. Running around naked at a punk music festival or at the CSD parade is something other than to go shopping at the mall.[/quote]

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