Nudism vs exibitionism

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  Cheri Donna Dawson

  Jan 1, 2011

  Being naked is not nudism.  It's a mindset and attitude.

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• ME

  Member

  Jan 1, 2011

  [quote][quote][/quote] That really is dumb. If your idea of "enjoying" being nude involves sex, then you are part of the problem of the equation of nudity with sex that nudism faces.[/quote] Who said anything about sex?  Where are you getting this?  I'm talking about hiking or swimming or whatever in a natural state and not feeling like I'm doing anything wrong.  I'm talking about promoting wholesome natural recreation, like the boating couple I described.   You appear to buy into the idea that nudity is something to be ashamed of and that everone who doesn't share your view is a pervert.

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• PV

  

  Paul Vogler

  Jan 1, 2011

  [quote]Being naked is not nudism.  It's a mindset and attitude.[/quote]  This would suggest that there are nudists who never take their clothes off. Maybe I'm not "spiritual" enough, but I've got to believe that being naked is one of the defining characteristics of nudism.

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• PV

  

  Paul Vogler

  Jan 1, 2011

  [quote]It's simply a matter of using the appropriate word for the appropriate activity.  An Amazonian tribe may go nude, but calling the members nudists would be inaccurate.  Likewise, everyone may be nude at a swinger party, but calling the participants nudists would be inaccurate.  Mardi Gras participants flashing breasts and penises may be having silly and ultimately harmless fun, but calling them nudists would be inaccurate.  Nudism represents nonsexual social nudity with participants from all age groups.  When you introduce sexual elements, and make it an 18+ activity, it becomes something else.  It may be healthy and fun and wonderful, but it isn’t nudism.  I don’t think anyone is arguing that nudists are required to be prudish creatures that deny human sexuality.  But every possible activity that involves nudity cannot be tossed under the umbrella of nudism, any more than every activity that involves a belief in a supreme being can be tossed under the umbrella of Catholicism, Judaism or any other religion.  Just use the right word – nudist, swinger, exhibitionist, or whatever – and avoid all the confusion!  [/quote]  The problem is in thinking these things are all mutually exclusive. If you are a swinger, you can't be a nudist. If you are an exhibitionist, you can't be a nudist. And that simply isn't true.

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  nswkiwi42

  Jan 7, 2011

  I call my self a Nudist, mainly because thats the easiest way to describe things I enjoy doing, i dont spend 24/7 Naked,the same as probably most of us.
  In my opinion, the nudism Culture is making things harder for themselves rather than easier, I regulary read articals about how the average age of "Nudists" is in the mid 40-s to 50s, and then when you want to go to a resort and you are a "Single" male (Im not single, I am married with 3 kids, but to Nudist resorts I am classified as single because my wife isnt into the nudist lifestyle) you cant join.
  Why put lables on things, eg what exactly is a nudist?  I bet you that if there was a list saying that you are a nudist if..... not even 50% of people who call themselves nudists would fill all the criteria.
  When i am on a Textile beach, I like to recieve attention from the oppisite sex, and I like alot of what i see, does this make me a voyour? or an exabistionist (exuse the spelling) no. It makes me a perfectly normal human, so why is it if I go to a nudist beach, Im not allowed to enjoy people looking at me, or admire the beauty of the female form?
  On a textile beach you see couples hugging, kissing, playing in the water etc etc, and im pretty sure im not speaking just for myself even when doing non-sexual things i occasionaly get an erection.  god theres been a few times ive just been driving down the road and found myself with an erection, for no particular reason.  Yet going by the line of Nudism, these actions would be unaceptable because it may be percieved as sexual.
  to me been a nudist is to do the same things that you do every day, just without clothes on, when I was in surfers paradise over new years, probably half the time I was in the hotel I was naked, as too was my non nudist wife, we didnt go into the hallways or anything naked, but the outside balcony we did. Now because me and my wife had sex while spending time in the nude does that make me a non-nudist?  but then again there would be a number of times me and my wife have had sex while fully clothed too.
  In closing, a nudist to me is been more comfortable without clothes than with clothes (obviously in suitable enviroments eg not in a daycare centre, walking though a shopping mall etc) Trying to say that if you are a nudist your not something else is like saying if your english you cant have any scottish/irish/welsh in you....

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  Paul Vogler

  Jan 7, 2011

  [quote][quote]112 posts later and this debate is still continuing. Nothing new is coming up anymore, I think we have nearly debated this one to death as well as provide anyone out there a definition for both nudism and exhibitionism which suit the individual's particular morality.   Has anyone got something new to add to this thread which will enlighten us all?[/quote]This debate will never come to a conclusion, because most of the ,I'm naked so must be a nudistpeople are brain dead.[/quote] What a well thought out, intelligent argument. I feel enlightened.

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• JU

  

  Julyhunk

  Feb 21, 2011

  Well put. You do have the world of TN summed up quite nicely!

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• GB

  

  gbrian56

  Feb 21, 2011

  [quote]It always strikes me odd that people want to make this mutually exclusive. If you're an exhibitionist, then you're not a nudist! How silly! Sexual preferences are not about nudism! We all know nudism is not about sex, so anyone who enjoys sex is not a nudist? Being a nudist means you like to be naked, it's not about why you like to be naked. A group of nudists is like any other group of people, there's going to be a whole lot of differences. Voyeurs, exhibitionists, swingers, foot fetishits, as long as everyone follows the social rules of nudism, what does it matter. Nudists tend to spend a lot of time excluding people and then wonder why there aren't more nudists.[/quote]Some people are only comfortable in a world of black and white, when in reality the world is filled with shades of gray.  We can pity them or curse them, but as long as they don't try and color my world, I pretty much ignore them.

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  M_JimmieM_M

  Feb 23, 2011

  OK my 2 cents worth plain and simple. Nudism, just being yourself and enjoying your surroundings. Exhibitionism, trying to be the center of everyone else s world.

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• ST

  

  Steyfan

  Mar 2, 2011

  Completely agree with you! Great comment.

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• CD

  

  Cheri Donna Dawson

  Mar 4, 2011

  [quote][quote]This debate will never come to a conclusion, because most of the ,I'm naked so must be a nudistpeople are brain dead.[/quote]  Just so. Being naked no more makes one a nudist than dining in a restaurant makes one a chef. And as long as there are clueless people who equate nudism with exhibitionism, the argument will continue.[/quote] NIM, you summed it up nicely.

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  newnudiescpl

  Dec 17, 2012

  Agree .

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  Steve

  Dec 25, 2012

  I have to agree with Canyonhawk but forgive me as I have only been hanging out nude for about 5 years. People seem to be very hung up on nudism and sex and any reference that being a nudist means you enjoy sex. Let me qualify my statement I do not condone any activity that would cause other nudists to feel uncomfortable BUT to suggest that nudists donot engage in sexual activities in private is laughable. To be a nudist and say do not look at me because I am a true nudist is also not normal in my opinion, I find attractive clothed people have a sexual appeal and of course so would nude people, that is not to say you race over and have sex with them. Being an adult and in control means you use common sense and decency. But what really annoys me is this very narrow minded view that anybody who says nature and nudity in anyway sexually arouses them is a perv is just so far from the norm I can not understand it. Just my humble opinion!
  

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• ME

  Member

  Jan 18, 2013

  To me nudism is the love of not wearing clothes.When I go to a nudist resort I am going because of my love of being nude,and not because I am trying to shock somebody.I go to a nudist venue because I want to be around people that love being nude in the great outdoors as much as I do.

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  macnude

  Jan 18, 2013

  I want to be nude when I'm around other nudists. In no way this is exibitionism. Being nude shows others that we think alike and are comfortable without clothing. I am uncorfortable wearing anything in a nudists setting, feeling that the wearing of clothing will have other nudists thinking that I am an outsider and not one with them.I have observed those that wore some clothing at a nudist venue and they are the exibitionists.

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• NG

  

  Naked guy next door!

  Mar 19, 2013

  [quote][quote]Exibitionism can carry many different degrees.  If someone wears a very loud tshirt, they are wanting to be seen, to be noticed. ....[/quote]
  
  Very well observed.  Exhibitionism as a behavioural trait is not restricted to the narrow field of human sexuality.  The wearer of 'startling' coloured clothing, the owner of the automobile with the loud exhaust system and/or multi toned air horns, the loudly outspoken man/woman at the barbeque, the person who waves their clipboard organising at the church social, the person who decks their house out with 50kilowatts of lights at festive occasions ... these are all examples of exhibitionist behaviour which are not in themselves sexual per se - although may possibly suggest other issues such as a Narcissistic Personality, given that exhibitionistic behavours are most often sources of narcissistic supply for that personality type.
  
  
  
  
  
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  Rudie x
  
  
  
  [/quote]This is so well put. I love to be naked outdoors for the pleasure I feel being exposed and nude in nature. While I like to share nude time with friends, I do not at all enjoy being looked at naked. I don't mind exposing my body to friends but if textiled people show up I am very conscious of my nudity and can't separate from my naked presence and the impact it imposes on their experience.  Naked people who enjoy nudity for the impact and reaction it arouses whether for shock value, social control or for sexual gratification are doing it for exhibitionism rather than nudism. I think stripping or being nude for the feeling of being nude and exposed is ok. Doing it to arouse other people's reaction is not ok. I think an exception to this is when someone either individually or in a group intentionally bares the naked body to express their point of view such as in protest or to make a point of nudism. That's where this site is such a great place. Seeing people playing naked sports, sharing naked photos, making connections to skype naked; these are all positive expressions of nudity. If people get voyeuristic pleasure from looking at our nudity it has nothing to do with exhibitionism. Whether it is nudism or exhibitionism lies in the naked person's intention.

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  Soupie

  Mar 19, 2013

  I guess it depends on your self image as well.  I don't imagine that when I'm naked I'm "turning anyone on".  I just like to be naked and find fellowship among fellow nudists.  Being naked itself is not arousing.  Unless, as Irish Model says, you determine it to be so.

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  ManOfWicklow

  Jul 4, 2013

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  to_be_cloths_free

  Jul 4, 2013

  [quote]This is so well put. I love to be naked outdoors for the pleasure I feel being exposed and nude in nature. While I like to share nude time with friends, I do not at all enjoy being looked at naked. I don't mind exposing my body to friends but if textiled people show up I am very conscious of my nudity and can't separate from my naked presence and the impact it imposes on their experience.  Naked people who enjoy nudity for the impact and reaction it arouses whether for shock value, social control or for sexual gratification are doing it for exhibitionism rather than nudism. I think stripping or being nude for the feeling of being nude and exposed is ok. Doing it to arouse other people's reaction is not ok. I think an exception to this is when someone either individually or in a group intentionally bares the naked body to express their point of view such as in protest or to make a point of nudism. That's where this site is such a great place. Seeing people playing naked sports, sharing naked photos, making connections to skype naked; these are all positive expressions of nudity. If people get voyeuristic pleasure from looking at our nudity it has nothing to do with exhibitionism. Whether it is nudism or exhibitionism lies in the naked person's intention.[/quote]Yes this what I think also.
  To me the difference is if I walk on the hills naked I am more likely to be a naturist, but if I do the same in a town I am more of a exhibitionist as there will be many more people to see my naked body against the hills where there will be only few about if any to see it.

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• ME

  Member

  Nov 13, 2013

  I feel that nudism,is the enjoyment of being nude,whether you are alone or with others.For me it is a way to truly relax and feel free of society's critical eyes.I am not trying to show off my body,I am enjoying being nude with others who feel the same as I do.
  

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  TONYSUNSHINE

  Dec 22, 2013

  For me I would say Nudism is about the feeling of being nude. While exibitionism is about the feeling or rush of being seen nude. I am proud of my body and and comfortable in my bare skin, so in most cases don't mind displaying it in certain settings but when alone I am nude 90% of the time so it's more about the feeling than anything.

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