Open marriage

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  ravensflyinnow

  Aug 14, 2012

  [quote]   TELL ME WHY IT BELONGS IN THIS FORUM??
  [/quote]Why doesn't it? Because you don't like the topic? Don't read it!
  

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  DanandJanette

  Aug 14, 2012

  What a surprise the three lefties, who just happen to share the same proclivities, find nothing wrong with this topic in this forum. Just a coincidence folks, move along.....nothing to see here.
  Between the continued decline in societies morals, and financial pressure brought to bear on some landed camps to include openly 'lifestyle' people, I think I may witness the death of organized nudism in my lifetime, outside of non-landed clubs operated by dedicated purists like Cheri Donna. That's a damned shame, we have many fond memories of wonderful times we've had and people we've met. It's a classic example of lowering standards to try and appease everyone, and it's a fool's errand. And it's a fool who can't see what is in front of his eyes.
  

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  Soupie

  Aug 14, 2012

  And what "proclivities" would that be?  A love for nudism?

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  DanandJanette

  Aug 14, 2012

  [quote][quote]   TELL ME WHY IT BELONGS IN THIS FORUM??
  [/quote]Why doesn't it? Because you don't like the topic? Don't read it!
  [/quote]  Are you that blinded by your self appointed mission in life to shove your agenda down everyone's throat that you can't see how your post recklessly exposes your ignorance?
  
  You leftists are the most selfish, self-centered ingrates I've ever had the misfortune to interact with. You are children trapped in adult bodies, unwilling or unable to admit you can't have everything in this world the way you want it, but you screw up anything you manage to get your hands on to gerrymander the way you want it. Take a good look at your cities and states that are run by hard left-wingers....they are human disasters in the making.....California, Chicago, DC, and that poster child for human dysfunction, Detroit. A once proud city reduced to trash-strewn streets, abandoned graffitti-scrawled buildings, an unemployment rate light years ahead of the national average, all run by a THUG wearing expensive suits. What does it say about a constituent that re-elects a mayor who was caught on camera smoking crack? Yeah I know, the MAN set him up, right? But the liberal plantation dwellers refused to vote for the white guy and watched their city continue it's decline. You ever wonder why so many cops retire to the Dakotas, Montana, Idaho? Because the northern midwest is the last bastion of conservative values and SANITY.
  

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  Bob

  Aug 14, 2012

  In two months, October 2012, my wife and I will be married 38 years. We are both 100% monogamous.
  
  
  bob
  

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  Cheri Donna Dawson

  Aug 15, 2012

  [quote]In two months, October 2012, my wife and I will be married 38 years. We are both 100% monogamous.
  
  
  bob
  [/quote]Allen and I will be married 19 years on February 5th.  It's not always been an easy journey, but when I promise something, I hold to my word.
  

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• ME

  Member

  Aug 15, 2012

  [quote]In two months, October 2012, my wife and I will be married 38 years. We are both 100% monogamous.
  
  
  bob
  [/quote]Congratulations, and Happy Anniversary!
  

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• ME

  Member

  Aug 15, 2012

  [quote]Allen and I will be married 19 years on February 5th.  It's not always been an easy journey, but when I promise something, I hold to my word.
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  Congratulations and Happy Anniversary (early) to you too, Cheri.
  

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  Bob

  Aug 15, 2012

  Thank you all. We are following in the footsteps of our parents and grandparents from both sides of our marriage. Both of my parents are still around and they do get around, they are married 65 years.
  
  Bob

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  Bill Nesc

  Aug 16, 2012

  [quote]Hey, folks
  
  I'm going to try posting this topic again. The last time someone brought this up, they got blasted for five pages of comments for trying to make this into a dating site.  THAT IS NOT THE POINT OF THIS POST!
  
  I'm trying to bring up an honest discussion. I'm NOT looking to hook up, here. So, on to the discussion.
  
  My wife and I are NOT swingers. (Not that there's anything wrong with that...). But, we do have an "open marriage" or, more precisely, we are "nonmonogamous." What this means is that we are free to date or sleep with other people with in the bounds of our marriage, and established rules. Our rules? Well, we don't really have any. Just the basic idea of "don't be an idiot" and "don't screw up our marriage." That's about it.
  
  For the record, this was her idea.
  
  What this has lead to is that, very occasionally, one or both of us will date other people. Maybe a couple of times a year. Sometimes this includes sex but mostly not. For awhile, we were fortunate enough to have another couple in our lives, and we could go out on double dates and sleep over. But that other couple has moved from town.  Damn.
  
  Anyway, with two kids, two careers and a start-up company, we don't really have time for anyone else in our lives. At least not full time. However, occasionally I'll have a chance to go do something that my wife doesn't enjoy (costume parties, country dancing, tantra workshops, etc.). Rather than not go (and possibly resent it) I can go with a friend without having to worry that something might develop about which I might have to feel guilty. Or, that my wife will be jealous.
  
  This has been particularly worthwhile with my naked adventures. My wife doesn't mind me being naked, and will get naked herself. But, it's just not a priority for her like it is for me. Since we could sleep around if we wanted to, when I find someone who likes to hang out naked my wife isn't all stressed out that I might be cheating on her. I might me. But it's not cheating. And she's not stressed out about it. (Generally, of course, I'm not....but it can be fun to think and talk about at times.)
  
  Does anyone else out there have a relationship that's anywhere like mine? Are such relationships becoming more common? Are people more open about them? I've seen a lot of press, lately, and even two t.v. shows about nonmonogamous couples. With the increase in press I figure that open marriages are becoming part of the zeitgest. Is there any reason to think that naturist couples are more likely, or less likely, to have such marriages?
  
  Please, discuss.......
  [/quote]There is lots of relationships like yours out there despite what the PC police here insist. Even 2012 Republican contender and former House Speaker Newt Gingrich wanted an open marriage (his wife refused and deviorced him).
  

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  danglinOriginal Poster

  Aug 16, 2012

  CherriDonna,
  
  Thanks for a legitimate question.
  
  We wrote our own vows. They did not include being faithful, or any thing about obedience or "honor and obey."  We've held true to our vows. Have been married 11 years. Together for 14. Hasn't always been easy, but what problems we have had haven't been caused but infidelity, dishonesty, or disrespect.
  

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  danglinOriginal Poster

  Aug 16, 2012

  I've known lots of folks who's marriages have ended in divorce. I don't know any of them to have been swingers--though I do know that there were several who ended marriages after affairs.
  
  As to what our kids say? They see us with our arms around friends all the time. They believe it's important to show affection to people who are important to them. They have no idea who we might or might not be dating. HOWEVER, when that time comes we will discuss it openly and honestly.
  
  When the Tiger Woods affairs became public, they wondered what was up with him. Our explanation "People have different promises and agreements with their partners in relationships. Whatever Tiger promised his wife he broke that promise."
  
  
  

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  danglinOriginal Poster

  Aug 16, 2012

  As to those folks who suggest I NOT discuss topics that don't match with the standards of a majority of posters on this site, well that appeal falls on deaf ears.  I could say something high falutin and erudite about freedom of speech, tyranny of the majority, speaking truth to power, you know, edumacated stuff.
  
  Instead, I'll settle for
  
  "PPPPHHHHHTTTTTTT!!!"
  

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  Soupie

  Aug 17, 2012

  and does that make you a saint?

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• ME

  Member

  Aug 17, 2012

  [quote][quote]and does that make you a saint?[/quote]I am, but not of my own merit.  [/quote]Love this!  2 Cor 5:21

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  Soupie

  Aug 17, 2012

  "Your boasting is not good.  Do you not know that a little leaven leavens the whole lump? Cleanse out the old leaven that you may be a new lump, as you are really unleavened.  For Christ, our paschal lamb, has been sacrificed.  Let us therefore, celebrate the festival, not with the old leaven, the leaven of malice and evil, but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth."

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  Tom === Thomas S. Tierney

  Aug 17, 2012

  Thank God I'm an Atheist.
  

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  DesertRat

  Aug 17, 2012

  I do not want to discuss the subject of "open marriage" but I would like to answer one of this person's most profound questions. This may have been covered in one of the other posts but I'll admit, I didn't read them all.
  
  He stated that it was his wife's idea and he is agreeable to it, but sometimes his wife shows a little jealousy in what he does. Well I have news for him. Women live by two sets of rules; one for them and one for everyone else. The sooner he learns this the happier everyone will be. It's really a case of he needs permission but she doesn't.

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  ManOfWicklow

  Aug 17, 2012

  [quote]I do not want to discuss the subject of "open marriage" but I would like to answer one of this person's most profound questions. This may have been covered in one of the other posts but I'll admit, I didn't read them all.
  
  He stated that it was his wife's idea and he is agreeable to it, but sometimes his wife shows a little jealousy in what he does. Well I have news for him. Women live by two sets of rules; one for them and one for everyone else. The sooner he learns this the happier everyone will be. It's really a case of he needs permission but she doesn't.[/quote]Yes you are right, DR, from reading his post, this would certainly seem to be the case. He will of course deny that.

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  danglinOriginal Poster

  Aug 17, 2012

  Hey guys, just clarifying here.
  
  I did NOT say that my wife is jealous. Here's the quote:
  
  "Rather than not go (and possibly resent it) I can go with a friend
  
  without having to worry that something might develop about which I might
  
  have to feel guilty. Or, that my wife will be jealous."
  
  So our arrangement allows me to go out WITHOUT the fear that my wife would be jealous. Because she's not. And has never exhibited any jealousy.
  

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  Tom === Thomas S. Tierney

  Aug 17, 2012

  [quote][quote]Thank God I'm an Atheist.
  
  
  
  [/quote]:))[/quote]Thank you
  

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  ManOfWicklow

  Aug 17, 2012

  Thank God I'm a normal person.

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  Tom === Thomas S. Tierney

  Aug 17, 2012

  [quote]To the OP- If this works for you and your wife, good for the both of you. It would not work at my house.FOR THE LOVE OF GOD soapy soupy soupie the whole fucking sight is NOT YOURS to degrade other people-NIM. It is painfully obvious that you are LIBERAL and NIM is CONSERVATIVE. I suggest you learn to play nice or take your balls and go home. Life would be so much more calm here. To the others that are following this thread, I am new to the site and if I have over steped I am truely sorry.[/quote]If they went home, we would not have anyone to laugh at.
  

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  ManOfWicklow

  Aug 19, 2012

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