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danglinOriginal Poster
Aug 13, 2012Hey, folks
I'm going to try posting this topic again. The last time someone brought this up, they got blasted for five pages of comments for trying to make this into a dating site. THAT IS NOT THE POINT OF THIS POST!
I'm trying to bring up an honest discussion. I'm NOT looking to hook up, here. So, on to the discussion.
My wife and I are NOT swingers. (Not that there's anything wrong with that...). But, we do have an "open marriage" or, more precisely, we are "nonmonogamous." What this means is that we are free to date or sleep with other people with in the bounds of our marriage, and established rules. Our rules? Well, we don't really have any. Just the basic idea of "don't be an idiot" and "don't screw up our marriage." That's about it.
For the record, this was her idea.
What this has lead to is that, very occasionally, one or both of us will date other people. Maybe a couple of times a year. Sometimes this includes sex but mostly not. For awhile, we were fortunate enough to have another couple in our lives, and we could go out on double dates and sleep over. But that other couple has moved from town. Damn.
Anyway, with two kids, two careers and a start-up company, we don't really have time for anyone else in our lives. At least not full time. However, occasionally I'll have a chance to go do something that my wife doesn't enjoy (costume parties, country dancing, tantra workshops, etc.). Rather than not go (and possibly resent it) I can go with a friend without having to worry that something might develop about which I might have to feel guilty. Or, that my wife will be jealous.
This has been particularly worthwhile with my naked adventures. My wife doesn't mind me being naked, and will get naked herself. But, it's just not a priority for her like it is for me. Since we could sleep around if we wanted to, when I find someone who likes to hang out naked my wife isn't all stressed out that I might be cheating on her. I might me. But it's not cheating. And she's not stressed out about it. (Generally, of course, I'm not....but it can be fun to think and talk about at times.)
Does anyone else out there have a relationship that's anywhere like mine? Are such relationships becoming more common? Are people more open about them? I've seen a lot of press, lately, and even two t.v. shows about nonmonogamous couples. With the increase in press I figure that open marriages are becoming part of the zeitgest. Is there any reason to think that naturist couples are more likely, or less likely, to have such marriages?
Please, discuss.......
I'm going to try posting this topic again. The last time someone brought this up, they got blasted for five pages of comments for trying to make this into a dating site. THAT IS NOT THE POINT OF THIS POST!
I'm trying to bring up an honest discussion. I'm NOT looking to hook up, here. So, on to the discussion.
My wife and I are NOT swingers. (Not that there's anything wrong with that...). But, we do have an "open marriage" or, more precisely, we are "nonmonogamous." What this means is that we are free to date or sleep with other people with in the bounds of our marriage, and established rules. Our rules? Well, we don't really have any. Just the basic idea of "don't be an idiot" and "don't screw up our marriage." That's about it.
For the record, this was her idea.
What this has lead to is that, very occasionally, one or both of us will date other people. Maybe a couple of times a year. Sometimes this includes sex but mostly not. For awhile, we were fortunate enough to have another couple in our lives, and we could go out on double dates and sleep over. But that other couple has moved from town. Damn.
Anyway, with two kids, two careers and a start-up company, we don't really have time for anyone else in our lives. At least not full time. However, occasionally I'll have a chance to go do something that my wife doesn't enjoy (costume parties, country dancing, tantra workshops, etc.). Rather than not go (and possibly resent it) I can go with a friend without having to worry that something might develop about which I might have to feel guilty. Or, that my wife will be jealous.
This has been particularly worthwhile with my naked adventures. My wife doesn't mind me being naked, and will get naked herself. But, it's just not a priority for her like it is for me. Since we could sleep around if we wanted to, when I find someone who likes to hang out naked my wife isn't all stressed out that I might be cheating on her. I might me. But it's not cheating. And she's not stressed out about it. (Generally, of course, I'm not....but it can be fun to think and talk about at times.)
Does anyone else out there have a relationship that's anywhere like mine? Are such relationships becoming more common? Are people more open about them? I've seen a lot of press, lately, and even two t.v. shows about nonmonogamous couples. With the increase in press I figure that open marriages are becoming part of the zeitgest. Is there any reason to think that naturist couples are more likely, or less likely, to have such marriages?
Please, discuss.......
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renebbareAug 20, 2012ZaS, these discussions upset many of us due to the fact they have little or nothing to do with nudism. What the OP presented for discussion had more to do with sex than nudism and so it was rightly pointed out that the question would be better aired on TS.
Since then the whole issue has been hijacked!ReactReply - MA
ManOfWicklowAug 20, 2012[quote]Actually NIM did not hijack the thread. Post # 4 by soupie led away from the discussion.[/quote]Yes, and that's what happens to any thread where he and his other loudmouth loonies decide to wreak havoc.ReactReply - MAManOfWicklowAug 20, 2012[quote]Lastly as the OP brought up a sexual lifestyle which has nothing to do with nudism, yes he is on the site, but being here does not make one a nudist.[/quote]You know that, Rene, I know that, and anyone with an ounce of common sense would know that, but unfortunatly we have a few here without even the sense of a chimpanzee.ReactReply
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Cheri Donna DawsonAug 20, 2012[quote][quote]You know that, Rene, I know that, and anyone with an ounce of common sense would know that, but unfortunatly we have a few here without even the sense of a chimpanzee.[/quote]Chimps have a lot more sense than a number here. LOL - they don't need sunscreen or other nudist/naturist things like sitting on their own towel. Maybe if a chimp were to spend times around some nudists/naturists, the chimps might want to shave.ReactReply - MAManOfWicklowAug 20, 2012[quote][quote][quote]You know that, Rene, I know that, and anyone with an ounce of common sense would know that, but unfortunatly we have a few here without even the sense of a chimpanzee.[/quote]Chimps have a lot more sense than a number here. LOL - they don't need sunscreen or other nudist/naturist things like sitting on their own towel. Maybe if a chimp were to spend times around some nudists/naturists, the chimps might want to shave.[/quote]
You mean like this one, Cheri
[img src="http://img.tavi.ws/JJ/image_upload/129d78e44dc7_B19E/naked-monkey.jpg" width=466 height=626>ReactReply - MEMemberAug 20, 2012[quote]Just be aware that anyone who decides to hide behind anonymity on the internet, yet continues to state an opinion, does not have the courage of their convictions. [/quote]As a bystander who has watched you and bruce interact, it is my impression that you are using this as a smokescreen. Intelligent people can discern when someone is making a coherent argument without having to see a naked picture of them.
And you talk about him not having the "courage of [his] convictions"...I honestly do not care whether he is courageous or not. Are the arguments he makes sound or not? Deal with the substance of them and stop appealing to an irrelevant non-issue.
I hope you can accept this as a thoughtful, reasoned plea and not see it as an opportunity to be less than civil.ReactReply - MEMemberAug 20, 2012[quote]If you think that the issue of certification and identification is not relevant to a person's speech, then you don't know what a smokescreen is.[/quote]My point was simply that logic and reason are not contingent concepts. They exist and are demonstrable apart from any other factor (like certification on some internet forum). Your comments are logical and reasoned (or not) quite independent of your TN certification.ReactReply
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SoupieAug 20, 2012Try and parse the reasoning of his logic. Bruce says that he trusts the administrators of this site. Then he argues that he cannot trust them enough to send a private form of identification without fear of being somehow "exposed" in a paranoid fashion. Can you explain the logic in that to me?
ReactReply - MEMemberAug 20, 2012[quote]And my point is an old-fashioned concept that if one wishes to state contentious opinions, one should have the courage to stand behind them with some form of identity. Without it, one is the definition of an internet troll.[/quote]Well, it's obviously very important to you. You and I clearly have different standards. Whether someone is courageous or not has no affect on whether I think what they say is reasonable. I'm not on an Internet Forum looking for courage.
As to the charge of being an internet troll, I suppose the reader will have to decide who this describes:
"a troll is someone who posts inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as a forum, chat room, or blog, with the primary intent of provoking readers into an emotional response or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion."ReactReply - SOSoupieAug 20, 2012
gosh, you sure took up a lot of space to troll there!
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Tom === Thomas S. TierneyAug 20, 2012See how easy it is.ReactReply - SOSoupieAug 20, 2012
Yes. Are we at the "I know you are but what am I" phase that you require now? Mission accomplished, as your legendary president would say.
ReactReply - SOSoupieAug 20, 2012
Gollum, there is nothing wrong with your homosexual "crushes" or your friend requests towards them. It's a natural result of suppressing your sexuality for so long and trying to exorcise it. You need to calm down. You only have so many arteries to burst.
ReactReply - SOSoupieAug 20, 2012
Can you please assemble one brain and appeal to logic. Why, why, why, do you keep posting to announce that you're ignoring? It makes no sense.
ReactReply - MAManOfWicklowAug 21, 2012
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ReactReply - MAManOfWicklowAug 21, 2012
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ReactReply - MAManOfWicklowAug 21, 2012One of his so called friends sold it to me for a penny,
and this one I got for free -
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ReactReply - MAManOfWicklowAug 22, 2012It's funny how some people are incapable of answering even the simplest of questions.ReactReply
- MAManOfWicklowAug 22, 2012Yes, just as I thought, incapable.ReactReply
- MAManOfWicklowAug 22, 2012Yes, just as I thought, incapable.ReactReply
- MAManOfWicklowAug 22, 2012[quote]MOW, your error is in assuming that the child can understand words of more than four letters and one syllable.[/quote]Yes indeed, he still has not worked out the difference between shunning an individual to that of shunning a whole thread.ReactReply